Greentime controllers

The seller clarified "K1 K2 dial gear", you connect them together to advance timing for a slight speed boost
 
Brother! The guru on these controllers is member 'stewrobb'. Knows them inside out. Strongly recommend you contact him.

don't know how often he checks in but contact me directly if you need his info.
 
I wonder if stewrobb would like to add to this thread?
thats a good idea to advance timing, might be useful at high rpm on longish ride
 
The Mighty Volt said:
Meh.....

......in any case, can somebody please give me a general overview of the basics of wiring a Cycle-Analyst to a controller? Thanks.

It's the same for all the newer versions 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2 and quite intuitive, look at the very bottom here http://ebikes.ca/drainbrain/CycleAnalyst_Manual_Vers22.pdf

For speed you'll have to look up how to get a signal if you're running sensorless. For sensored it just ties to one of the hall sensor signal wires. The green wire on the Greentime connectors is the throttle override wire, which is explained under section 9, about 2/3rds the way down here http://ebikes.ca/drainbrain.shtml

Have you gotten yours going sensored yet? If so and it wasn't a connection problem, what did you have to do, since that would be interesting to know?
 
Just to post my experiences with the controller:

I purchased from Leo a couple of months ago, good communication, he promised to send matching connectors with the controller which didn't eventuate. My order took AGES to send, Leo kept making excuses and I had to extend the processing time multiple times. I don't know how much control he had over it, but that's what happened. Maybe I was too nice to get the best service. I opted for the 4110fet upgrade.

I was looking forward to getting some pretty copper busbars in mine, but mine just had wires connecting bits on the traces, and had a different wire output than the picture. It had much thicker wires than I expected, very pleased with that! There was some random kapton tape just floating around in my controller...

Only got the chance to fire it up when my ME0907 arrived a couple days ago. Having prepared to mess with hall combinations all night I remembered reading something about sensorless, and sure enough the controller fired up without issue with no halls connected, which was great!

So far all performance is fine, haven't really loaded it yet. But overall I am very pleased with the controller.
 
John in CR said:
The Mighty Volt said:
Meh.....

......in any case, can somebody please give me a general overview of the basics of wiring a Cycle-Analyst to a controller? Thanks.

It's the same for all the newer versions 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2 and quite intuitive, look at the very bottom here http://ebikes.ca/drainbrain/CycleAnalyst_Manual_Vers22.pdf

For speed you'll have to look up how to get a signal if you're running sensorless. For sensored it just ties to one of the hall sensor signal wires. The green wire on the Greentime connectors is the throttle override wire, which is explained under section 9, about 2/3rds the way down here http://ebikes.ca/drainbrain.shtml

Have you gotten yours going sensored yet? If so and it wasn't a connection problem, what did you have to do, since that would be interesting to know?

Hi john thanks for the message.

The only luck I had with the hall sensors was that I managed to get the CA working in terms of a display output.

Leo told me it was soft-start. Once he mentioned this I basically gave up trying to get it to run sensored, because I figured the programming just wasn't there.

In act, I am going back to him soon to try for an 18 Fet for the X5305 in the 20", I will use the 24 Fet with an X5304 which has damaged halls........pedal first, then the power.
 
I just got my new controller from LEO., almost 7days ship here. i have tested this controller for sensorless mode and it works very well for cyclone motor. Since is working very well for Sensorless mOde, i didnt' try out the sensor mode. The test was good, either i go slow, middle, for max speed, it spin very smoothly. Green time controller is best for cyclone motor alternative. Just plug the phase WIRES will do, and turn on the throttle, it spin wonderful !.. Wow. !! i will be running below 60v so, i won't pay alot notice for fets4410. I think this controller will also work for RC motor as well, i think it will be intersting to find Out, if this works also.

what is the Black and white wire for what connection ?
what is the Single green wire for what connectiion ?

kent
 

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thats great news it runs cyclone, how about reversing direction? did it run in correct direction, and does it start by itself without having to
turn the motor first before controller kicks in?
 
i went for a test again, with hall sensor wires. This is even more smooth speed from slowest ~ maximum speed. A wonderful controller for cyclone, I am impressed.

kent
 
yep, they are quite something, and it spun in the right direction? swapping any 2 phases will change the direction if anything.
 
kentlim26 said:
what is the Black and white wire for what connection ?
what is the Single green wire for what connectiion ?
I wonder this too.

When I got the controller (15 FET without 3 speed switch and without cruising) I asked Leo for a guide on how to connect it, but he didn't reply. I have been able to power it up by doing some measurements, and by reading the post below:

ian.mich said:
all brushless motor controllers are very similar especially from china, this ones fairly straight forward, and leo will help you with any problems. 5 thick wires, 2 battery (red and black) 3 phases (green yellow blue), then you got the hall connector, standard big white 5 wire connector thing from china, replace ASAP along with the battery and phase connectors (I like to use the JST SM 5 pin for halls, 50A andersons for battery, and 4mm bullet connectors from hobbyking for the phases), 3 standard wires for the throttle, a red and purple key switch wire, and a purple and yellow (come on separate connectors) for the braking. Cruise is *black and pink, 3 speed is blue black and orange. then there's PAS, reverse, and cycleanalyst plug (careful with the CA plug, ppl have been saying its not wired right). havent touched those 3.

So this is what I got so far:
Code:
                Resistance to   Resistance to 
                thick black     thick red       Function

Thick wires
Red             -               0               Battery +
Yellow          9k24            -               Motor phase
Green           9k24            -               Motor phase
Blue            9k24            -               Motor phase
Black           0               -               Battery - / Gnd
                                                
5 wire connector
Red             -               -               5V hall sensor power
Yellow          4k13            -               Hall sensor signal
Green           4k13            -               Hall sensor signal
Blue            4k13            -               Hall sensor signal
Black           0               -               Gnd
                                                
3 wire connector
Red             -               -               5V throttle power
Green           10k             -               Throttle signal
Black           0               -               Gnd
                                                
2 wire White/Bla
White           -               -               ?
Black           0               -               Gnd
                                                
2 wire Red/Purp
Red             -               0               Key switch power (Battery +)
Purple          22k             -               Key switch input
                                                
Single wires
Purple          22k             -               ?
Green           9k4             -               ?
Yellow          24k             -               ?
Feel free to correct this table, and to add more stuff.
 
thank you John. yes, the Black and white as a NEAT ebrake connector.

compare with Huatong isnt that neat and clean cut. I need to wired another from the battery power to the white wire to switch as power cut off. my controller has a 3way speed and cruise also, I have ask Leo for that in my purchase. My 15fets is 4410, is going to run battery power below 80v for hub motor, cyclone is 60v and below. bottom line, this green time controller really run Quite perfert smooth speed on cyclone. I purchased this controller for few reason- a Final best solution for my cyclone motor. im also looking for 24v version controller for cyclone motor. there is 36v version - but im not sure if it works for cyclone or not. going for a 24v version is a 6 cells lipo is super lightest, weight for ebike class.

kent
 
Last night I asked Leo if the controller was soft start and he replied to me that "it is medium start, not soft and not hard"
That could maybe explain why soldering the shunt had little effect...
 
kentlim26 said:
I just got my new controller from LEO., almost 7days ship here. i have tested this controller for sensorless mode and it works very well for cyclone motor. Since is working very well for Sensorless mOde

He has sensorless mode for all but the 18-fet he said in a PM to me. Going to try his 15-fet out soon as i ordered one a week ago .
 
The 2 wire white and black is low level brake, whatever that means. the single purple is some kind of voltage meter or output. the single yellow is high level brake and in my experience, it is what is used for regen (for all i know low level causes regen as well). The hi level is activated by connecting that and the purple voltage wire. the green wire is the speed meter.
 
hi, i order my 15fets 48v 1000watts. My stock is only caps 63v, so it cannot work with 80volts. too bad, if not i will test my hub motor for 80v and run.

ken
 
leo also inform me, my caps is only 63v, i told him i will take note. it all right then this controller will be using only for cyclone motors mostly. if i need to speed off a hub motor or real 80volts i will order 60v or 72v controller for next time. Actually i want to do a test for cyclone motor and see if it run smoothly or not, so it does run smoothly and pretty Good.

kent
 
one thing i noticed about these controllers is they have short circuit protection. shorted 2 phases while spin testing a motor at 100v and the controller shut off until i let go of the throttle and reapplied the throttle. no blowing up controllers on these things.
 
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