Handling the fallout from Covid-19

Grettings, haters. Yeah, you get to complain because of my rare cut and paste. Good stuff on '60 Minutes' covid report tonight.

60 minutes said:
Scott Pelley: As a physician, if you could only have one, would you rather have a vaccine or an effective therapeutic?

Dr. James Pruden: I'd rather have an effective therapeutic.

Few doctors know this disease as well as James Pruden, medical director of emergency preparedness for St. Joseph's Hospital in Paterson, New Jersey. Last spring his hospital was overwhelmed with 456 COVID patients at once. The first one admitted was Dr. Pruden himself.

Dr. James Pruden: I got admitted to my own hospital -- I'm one of the luckiest men on earth to be in a hospital where people are geared to do this -- to resuscitate people and keep people alive.

The rate of death in the United States seven months ago was double what it is today, in part because in the early days so little was understood.

Dr. James Pruden: So it was a question of doing what you could, keeping this body alive while you tried to find out what protocol was working. And they did an excellent job. I was intubated twice. And I spent 31 days in the intense care unit. Lost about 80 pounds, could not roll over in bed on my own, could not sit up in bed on my own. And had the constant sense that I am not getting enough air.

Scott Pelley: And there was a sense of being hungry for oxygen.

Dr. James Pruden: Oh my goodness. Yes.

Scott Pelley: Like drowning?

Dr. James Pruden: This was a question of my body, no matter what I do, is not pulling in enough air. And the oxygen that they're providing me is not giving me enough air and I need air. I need air, I need air.

They don't seem to put a lot of faith in a vaccine because of the mutating of the virus, no telling how long it might work.

Eli Lilly and Company. Regeneron. If you know the difference between 'Reduction in Virus' and 'Reduced hospitalization' (I would think they'd go together) you could guess which is better.

Dr. Pruden, and others, told us the medical community is much better prepared now in case of another surge in the fall.

Dr. James Pruden: We're a lot smarter than we were seven months ago. We are still not outta the woods.

Scott Pelley: As a physician and as a patient, what do you say to your medical colleagues about this going forward?

Dr. James Pruden: What I say to the medical colleagues is learn resilience. Maintain physical strength. And your cognition. Think. Problem-solve. It's not woe is me, but okay, how can I do it better the next time? And we can do it. There's strength in this community. There's strength in the world around us. Look at that strength and build on it.

That's probably the most interesting parts.
 
It's not just about finding a vaccine, its about seeing if its safe, getting needles, getting viles, getting tests, production of drug which all takes time. So give it to the vulnerable asap the nursing homes, the nurses, the doctors, all hospital workers, then the at risk with health problems, then the rest of society the 40% who are willing to take it. Then what countries do you give the remaining to, how much do you give and how much do you hold back.
 
Since the immunity from a vaccine will only last X months,

it needs to be rolled out around the world simultaneously, a critical mass of all humanity within that window,

and thus funded by the wealthy for those that can't afford to pay full freight.

Otherwise the dumpster fire never gets put out, flare-ups forever.
 
Bill Gates is wealthy and willing with his foundation. Others will throw a few pennies (millions) for good PR.
Your tax dollars will send the drug worldwide.
 
OR everyone takes off the mask, you quit testing like Obama did and everyone goes back to the way it used to be, by xmas everyone will have forgotten about COVID
 
Yup thats the way its going in many states.

It'd sure be interesting to see the infection rates of all those crowded get togethers.
You always hear the occasional mask denier who gets infected.


goatman said:
everyone goes back to the way it used to be
 
you mean how only 3% of covid cases are from people that never wear a mask and 70% of cases are from those that always do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RjLilbuBM8
 
take Disneyland California (democrat) and Disneyworld Florida (republican)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmByg8eTyHY

talk about a perfect description of the USA , maybe liberalism isnt a mental disorder, maybe its brain damage from when you were dropped on your heads as babies??
 
Total BS, the states do not have the resources required, that decision was just abdication of his responsibility.

Stop making excuses for a completely conscious decision to burn it all down, like a subnormal idiot skipping a test, refusing to try, because he doesn't want the world to see him clearly fail
 
Thanks to Governor Gladys Blewsome businesses opened, closed, opened, then closed again. Meanwhile his aunt Nelladonna Legosi gets her hair and nails done anytime as the forest burns. Blewsome recall petition over 1 million signatures so far. :p
 
Federali's cant shut down a city in Florida over another city in Florida based on infection rates. They cant close down gyms or any other form of selective shutdowns based on infection clusters. That is the states responsibility.
 
Again, complete BS.

The only reason states are being so irresponsible is lack of leadership from the top

or rather, buying into the death cult propaganda for political purposes.
 
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/14/834040912/fact-check-trump-doesnt-have-the-authority-to-order-states-to-reopen

"The President's powers are not 'total,' " Susan Low Bloch, a professor of constitutional law at Georgetown Law School, said in an email. "Our government is a government of divided powers. We call it 'separation of powers' with 'checks and balances.' "

The president has the powers articulated in Article II of the Constitution, she says. "But the Congress, the judiciary, and the states also have powers — as articulated in the rest of the Constitution (particularly in Article I, Article III, and the 10th Amendment respectively). The President is not a king. His powers are broad, but they are definitely not 'total.' "

"It's so plain and obvious it's not even debatable," added Kathleen Bergin, a professor at Cornell Law School.

"Trump has no authority to ease social distancing, or to open schools or private businesses," she said. "These are matters for states to decide under their power to promote public health and welfare, a power guaranteed by the 10th Amendment to the Constitution. Despite what he claims, no president has absolute authority over domestic policy, and he certainly has no power to override the type of measures that have been taken across the country that have proved successful in flattening the curve."
 
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