Handling the fallout from Covid-19

Excellent, no-nonsense overview of where "Western civilization" stands now with COVID

IMO a must-read

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/the-west-has-failed-us-and-europe-have-made-a-mess-of-handling-the-crisis-1.4395473
 
john61ct said:
Excellent, no-nonsense overview of where "Western civilization" stands now with COVID

IMO a must-read

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/the-west-has-failed-us-and-europe-have-made-a-mess-of-handling-the-crisis-1.4395473

All the successful pandemic control techniques, including mask-wearing, contact-tracing, and compulsory quarantine, were initially dismissed as authoritarian and culturally inappropriate for the West.

Initially? More like still is. Someone made an analogy, maybe Hussein Obama if USA did same as polite Canada then USA would have 80k deaths.
 
And Canada's not a great example.

We really need to start realizing we have so much to learn from the rest of the world, that we really are backwards in so many ways.

And "we" meaning all the western countries that used to be in charge back in mercantilist / colonial times

should be actively seeking advice and instruction from places that were considered "third world" not many decades ago.

Taiwan's model of governance seems to be very much leading edge these days.
 
Most over seas countries the citizens bow down to their tyrannic leader, while the west has freedoms and they feel they can do what they want or else, dont tread on me type of mentality.
 
ZeroEm said:
Looks like there will be no handling of Covid-19 in the US of A. We could end up with the deaths in the millions by the end of next year.

Have the Senators keep opening up to get votes.
 
They opened up all the theme parks here and the infection rate has tippled. Everything is open even bars. I really think they are watching the death rate and not the infection rate. Just as long as the bodies don't start pilling up.
 
ZeroEm said:
Why are you dragging Trump into this, he does not do anything, zero, zip, zilch. I blame Greg Abbott Govern of Texas, trumps mini me.

They are addicted. They'll never be able to let him go. Oh the regret, the REGRET they are experiencing. . . .
 
Some of Vermont's "secrets" of success in suppressing the spread of COVID-19 and keeping more of its citizens alive

https://www.vox.com/2020/11/19/21541810/vermont-covid-19-coronavirus-social-distancing
 
Data from 45 countries show containing COVID vs saving the economy is a false dichotomy

https://theconversation.com/data-from-45-countries-show-containing-covid-vs-saving-the-economy-is-a-false-dichotomy-150533
 
Trump administration passed when Pfizer offered in summer to sell more coronavirus vaccine doses to U.S.

"Now Pfizer may not be able provide more of its vaccine to the United States until next June because of its commitments to other countries, they said."

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/07/world/covid-19-coronavirus#trump-administration-officials-passed-when-pfizer-offered-in-late-summer-to-sell-the-us-more-vaccine-doses
 
john61ct said:
Trump administration passed when Pfizer offered in summer to sell more coronavirus vaccine doses to U.S.

"Now Pfizer may not be able provide more of its vaccine to the United States until next June because of its commitments to other countries, they said."

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/07/world/covid-19-coronavirus#trump-administration-officials-passed-when-pfizer-offered-in-late-summer-to-sell-the-us-more-vaccine-doses

And you continue to just gobble it up. Trump did good to order and pay Pfizer for 100 million doses of vaccine with the option to buy up to another 500 million doses under that agreement if their vaccine proves to be safe and effective. Leave it to the New York Times and the lesser John on the forum to try to twist it into something bad. Back in July it would have been a mistake to put all of the country's eggs in one expensive basket. Please change your name legally, since you don't deserve the one your parents gave you.
 
markz said:
UK is stabbing people tomorrow with a covid vaccine.
Stabbing is UK word for injecting.

they already have Dr's running around the radio stations doing interviews saying, youre going to hear about people dying of heart attacks and strokes after getting the shot but thats normal, these people are 80 years old, they die, its not the vaccine.
 
Remember Rebekah Jones? Data scientist who built Florida Dept of Health's COVID dashboard,

but once oompa loompa decided to politicize the virus and get the real numbers suppressed his stooge Gov DeSantis fired her

so she built her own COVID-19 dashboard maintained it with the real numbers from home.

Well DeSantis sent jackboot thugs to her home, siezed all her gear at gunpoint

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2020/12/07/agents-raid-home-fired-florida-data-scientist-who-built-covid-19-dashboard-rebekah-jones/6482817002

 
goatman said:
markz said:
UK is stabbing people tomorrow with a covid vaccine.
Stabbing is UK word for injecting.

they already have Dr's running around the radio stations doing interviews saying, youre going to hear about people dying of heart attacks and strokes after getting the shot but thats normal, these people are 80 years old, they die, its not the vaccine.

Before they started stabbing it was all the virus, and not normal old people dying, but as soon as the vaccine starts everything is back to only "normal" deaths allowed since it can't be the virus nor the vaccine.
 
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/90-year-old-grandmother-william-shakespeare-are-first-in-u-k-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-1.5221407

The second injection, in a fitting bit of drama, went to an 81-year-old man named William Shakespeare from Warwickshire, the county where the bard was born.

Also of note from the TV version of the news, UK has to do things differently so its not Patient 1 or Patient 2, no no its Patient A.
So what happens when the 27'th person comes along for a stabbing. Remember stabbing is the British word for injection.
 
COVID-19 jumping back and forth between animal and human populations, likely mutating enough to bypass vaccines

"this virus has the potential to be with us for millennia. And millennia is a long time."

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/science-and-health/2020/12/16/21826130/coronavirus-covid-19-in-animals-mink-dog-cats-gorillas-tigers

We've known this for many months, tigers dogs and of course mink

Denmark destroyed their mink industry long ago (google zombie mink)
 
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