hands-free e-system for quadriplegic with hand pedal tricycl

here is the very highly customized business end. at least from the handcycle point of view. it has a Sachs Deraileur, 6 speed sprocket and a Sachs VT Drum Brake Hub. these drum brakes have huge stopping power. needed i guess because it is the only brake.

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Sachs parts are pretty rare here in North America. and they are not stock for these Handcycles. so i wonder how these parts found their way onto this bike.

rick
 
finally here are a few views of the crank end of the drive line.
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rick
 
here is what i found that was very interesting. IT DOES NOT HAVE A COASTER BRAKE!!!!

instead is has a very interesting lever attachment on the crank axle to activate regular cable pull brakes. first clue was the Sachs Drum Brake Hub.
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as soon as i saw that cable pull i thought WTF!! then i got excited. what could be pulling it? then i noticed the extra lever on the crank axle...
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the lever has a one-way bearing. when you crank forward it acts as a bearing and the lever remains stationary while the crank rotates. but when you crank backwards the bearing locks the lever to the crank axle and pulls the cable activating the brake.
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this means that coaster brakes are not an issue. brakes will not be a problem. the problems will be driving the chain and where to mount the motor. my thoughts are to sacrifice a couple of the crank chainrings and do a BB drive. the motor could then mount via some fabricated brackets to the headset (BB?) stem. but what kind of motor to use?

how about one of matt's 14Kw motors and a dual reduction? (imagine maniacal Dr. Evil world conquering style laughter and music in bacground)

okay that would be crazy. back to reality. i would think that a 450W My1018Z on 36 or 48V with a freewheeling crank would be the easiest to set up.

rick
 
the reality of my hand cycle is that I am really able to only use the easiest sprocket so all the other speeds are overkill! Unless, an electric motor assist will allow for it an easier transition to a little faster speed. the other issue is that it is difficult for me to switch gear's so I really do not want to travel more than say 10--20 miles an hour. I am still unclear on how to include a motor on the front of my drive tire. Also, I will need to remotely or wired be able to turn on/off electric motor efficiently and at a moments notice!
Tim
 
Neat!

One option would be a normal hub motor wheel then, instead of the hub brake use a cable operated disc brake, and have that and regen controlled by the one-way-bearing lever thing.
 
timshe said:
Also, I will need to remotely or wired be able to turn on/off electric motor efficiently and at a moments notice!
That's easy; just a sensor on the brake lever that's already there, which activates the "ebrake" line on the controller, stopping all motor power instantly. (so that you are not fighting the motor with the brake). It can even be setup so that backing up on the handcranks just a little bit, not enough to actually brake, still deactivates the motor. (this is what my regen braking switch does).
 
Tim,

i have thought about this quite a bit over the last few days. and i would like to share my thoughts.

any type of chain drive would require many fabricated and custom designed parts. it would be a very involved process to make. it would involve a machinist/fabricator and would be beyond the average bike shop. the biggest problem would be the chainline changing everytime the gears are shifted. the next would be the motor mounts.

that leaves using a hub motor. i would use one that is designed for lots of torque and low RPM. you would be using a rear motor. this motor would have a thread on freewheel on one side and a disc brake on the other.

here is how i would do it.

Motor: Crystalyte 5306 or 9Continents model 2810. both of these are high turn count windings and are designed for high torque and lower RPM. you can use a 6speed freewheel with either. i don't think that the orignal Sachs freewheel will fit. but you should be able to adjust the existing Sachs deraileur and shifter to work with standard freewheels mounted to the motor. mount a large disc brake rotor to the motor. this motor can be laced into your existing rim by your bike shop. if your wheels are 26" you can get the motor already laced into the correct rim. the Crystalyte motor will be more expensive, heavier and a bit more powerfull.


Brakes: use an axle mounted disc brake adapter to attach the caliper. a simple bracket can be made attaching the torque arm of the adapter to where the torque arm of the existing brake is currently attached. i would not skimp on the disc calipers use hydraulics. the best that your budget allows. use the existing lever and cable arrangement to activate.

Controller: a 12 FET 40A 36 to 48V brushless speed controller. for the throttle use one of the available PAS sensors to match motor speed to pedal cadence. add a magnet and reed switch to the brake lever to sense when the brakes are activated to cut the motor. i would also add the Crystalyte Cruise control module.

Batteries 36V or 48V Lithium Manganese or LiFePO4 batteries to save weight over the ususal Sealed Lead Acid Batteries. they will save weight and space. mount these under the seat. brackets will have to be made for these. i would choose batteries that come sealed in a case. like those available from ebikes.ca or e-bikekit.com.

budjet about $1100 for the 9Continents motor, controller, 36V batteries. the Crystalite will be a little more at about $1400. add $150 for PAS sensor, e-brake sensor and Cruise control. budjet an additional $400 to $500 for the disc brake calipers, rotor and mounting adapter. remember to add the time that your local bike shop will charge for installation. total cost could easily exceed $2000.

hope this helps. maybe your local bike shop could use this as a start in designing your system.

rick
 
AussieJester said:
Jeremy Harris said:
Methinks it's a spammer or troll, AJ. First post, only just joined, advertising link in sig..........

Yes me thinkz you could be right Mr Jeremy... :-(

Least he is advertising quality wheelchairs i guess haha...

KiM

jeez KiM, i would have thought you'd get something like the Colours Tremor All Terrain
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rick
 
Nope...I climb aboard mates four wheel drive if i need to get anywhere i can't in the Quickie, i perch my self in the tray and fish from that on the beach, 4x4 reversed up to the water. Might surprise people but you can easily wheel a chair along the beach at the waters edge where the sand is damp aqnd compact, nearly as easily as on pavement, surprised the hell out of me first time i tried it, i was scooting along the beach like a mad man haha

KiM
 
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