Help: LCD for 36V Scooter (5-pin, 3-pin)

[vanjek]

Hello everyone,

I have an electric scooter, model Xplorer S6/10 (also known as Uwitgo S6/10), and I’m looking for a compatible LCD display. The scooter uses a 36V controller. The original display had two connectors:
• A 5-pin male green connector (for the controller)
• A 3-pin male yellow connector (for the throttle)

Do you have any recommendations for a compatible LCD display (e.g., TF-100 or similar) that works with these specifications? Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

 

[amberwolf]

Are you replacing the display because of a failure? If so, what happened just before the failure?

Or are you replacing it because you want something different? if so, specifically what do you want to be different from the original, and what specifically was the original and what did it do that you still want?

Etc.

FWIW, you'd probably need to use the same model display it had, unless you know what protocol, etc, that the controller uses to talk to the display and which ones are compatible for that controller (whichever controller that is, not stated in your post, thus tough for us to help find compatible ones).

Generally displays and controllers are not intercompatible, so it's not all that likely you'll just run across another that works. A few controllers can work with a whole series of displays, and a few displays can work with multiple (but not all) controllers. See E-HP's DIY Newb FAQ? for some of the collected info about that.

 

[vanjek]

Thanks for the reply! I’m replacing the display because the original got physically damaged and I can’t turn the scooter on without it.

I don’t know the exact model of the original display, but I’ve attached photos of the controller and the display unit from a friend’s identical scooter (same model), since mine is broken.

Controller:
• Model: S6 10”
• Voltage: 36V
• Current limit: 15A+1A
• Software version: SuoYa-S6-V5
• Undervoltage: 31V
• Production date: 2022/04/08
(photo attached)


Display (from friend’s working scooter):

• Black box (no markings on front)
• One 5-pin male green connector
• One 3-pin male yellow connector
• Label on the back says: SY202202025 / S6 36 10” / 2022040
(Photos attached)

I believe it’s a SuoYa S6 display or something compatible, but I can’t find a direct replacement without knowing the protocol or display model.

Does anyone recognize this setup or know which displays are compatible with this controller?

Any advice would be really appreciated

 

[d8veh]

Thanks for the reply! I’m replacing the display because the original got physically damaged and I can’t turn the scooter on without it.

I don’t know the exact model of the original display, but I’ve attached photos of the controller and the display unit from a friend’s identical scooter (same model), since mine is broken.

Controller:
• Model: S6 10”
• Voltage: 36V
• Current limit: 15A+1A
• Software version: SuoYa-S6-V5
• Undervoltage: 31V
• Production date: 2022/04/08
(photo attached)


Display (from friend’s working scooter):

• Black box (no markings on front)
• One 5-pin male green connector
• One 3-pin male yellow connector
• Label on the back says: SY202202025 / S6 36 10” / 2022040
(Photos attached)

I believe it’s a SuoYa S6 display or something compatible, but I can’t find a direct replacement without knowing the protocol or display model.

Does anyone recognize this setup or know which displays are compatible with this controller?

Any advice would be really appreciated

Nearly always when you get a different replacement display, the protocols don't match. it's always best to buy the controller and display as a matched pair.

 

[amberwolf]

Thanks for the reply! I’m replacing the display because the original got physically damaged and I can’t turn the scooter on without it.

Depending on the specifics of that damage, the scooter itself may have other damaged parts including the controller itself, because it's not uncommon for physical damage to a part to include electrical shorts between high and low voltage wiring. So...if a new display doesn't work, that might be why.

• Software version: SuoYa-S6-V5

Even creative websearches for the name / etc don't find anything relevant...you might have to get a new part for it from the original scooter maker or seller.

• One 5-pin male green connector
• One 3-pin male yellow connector

Since you have a working example, if you can do some voltage checks on the connector from taht one's controller/display with it attached, you can see which pins have which voltages or signals.

You can compare this to your own controller, so that you can tell which of those voltages is generated by it, and which by the display. That might help bypass the display to run the scooter without it, if you can't get a compatbile one.

Typically there are 5 wires::
--battery + (from controller to display)
--battery - (from controller to display)
--KeySwitch / Ignition (battery + sent back to controller only when display is turned on at it's power button)
--tx data(a 0-5v signal)
--rx data (a 0-5v signal)
There is no 5v or any other output from the controller until the display is on, because the LVPS that makes 5v/etc gets it's power from the KSI wire.


The three pin, if it's where your throttle plugs in, means that the controler itself may not have a throttle input, and may be like the ones that use the one you mentioned before, TF100, which reads the throttle internally and then sends that as data to the controller. If that's the case, then wiithout the display, it wouldn't matter if you can turn on the controller without it, as you don't have a way to control it.

If all the signals you see on yours are the same as those found on a TF100, then as long as you correclty determine the wiring on the TF and your controller, you could try one and see if it works. If the signals aren't compatible voltages you don't wnat to try this, but if they are, even if the data is wrong it shouldn't hurt anything. There are a few threads about the TF100 and another variant I forgot the name/number of that looks about the same.

 

[vanjek]

Thanks again to everyone for the helpful replies!

Just a quick update: I’ve contacted the original manufacturer in China and also reached out to a French webshop that used to sell this scooter under another brand name. I’m currently waiting for their response.

@d8veh & @amberwolf, thanks for the detailed info. I really appreciate the point about matching protocols and the warning that displays are often not interchangeable.

Even creative websearches for the name / etc don't find anything relevant...you might have to get a new part for it from the original scooter maker or seller.

I laughed because that’s exactly what I thought after digging through all sorts of obscure links, random reseller pages, and zero specs. That’s why I turned to the forum — glad I did.

If all the signals you see on yours are the same as those found on a TF100, then as long as you correclty determine the wiring on the TF and your controller, you could try one and see if it works. If the signals aren't compatible voltages you don't wnat to try this, but if they are, even if the data is wrong it shouldn't hurt anything.

I’ve seen a few of those TF100 online, but I wasn’t sure if they’re compatible with my SuoYa-S6-V5 controller. Once (or if) I get a reply from the manufacturer, I’ll check if that model could work. Thanks for the suggestion!

I’ll post any updates I get here in case it helps others with the same setup.