Here in the USA, Govt. steals children from people!

I wish I could say that this shocked me, but I know who's president. Of course he would fear soldiers swearing to not follow orders contrary to the Constitution. You may or may not remember another case of child abduction that took place under the last Democrat president. Still boils my blood to this day.

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Pretty sure this is going to be moved to OTD pretty quick SS. :)
 
This is bizarre. Unbelievable. Sounds like recent news reports about the latest Nobel peace prize winner... Makes me fear for my American cousins. Really disturbing.
 
So the story that the US government is taking kids away, for their parents' political ideology, is believable for you guys? That doesn't set off any alarms, at least not enough to do a quick Google search to, you know, check the real facts before spreading the story around...?

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/219670/couple-state-took-our-baby

But according to an affidavit provided to Irish by the state Division for Children, Youth and Families, state officials took the child because of Irish's long record of violence and abuse. According to the affidavit, a judge determined that Irish abused Taylor's two other children. She is still married to the father of those children, though Taylor said yesterday that her husband has refused to accept her divorce petition for the past two years.

The affidavit also says that the police in Rochester report a "lengthy history of domestic violence" between Taylor and Irish, and that she accused him of choking and hitting her on more than one occasion. According to the document, Irish failed to complete a domestic violence course as ordered by the state, and that a hearing was held last month to terminate Taylor's parental rights over her two older children.
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So he was ordered to take a class on domestic violence, while the State is holding hearings about whether to take their children away, and he couldn't be bothered to show up. Probably because being unemployed takes up so much of his time. Sounds like a real winner to me. Surely this man is a powerful political threat to the Establishment.

Hey, I don't suppose you guys are attending the March to Keep Fear Alive? National Mall, Washington DC, October 30. http://www.keepfearalive.com/
 
No Julesa, I did smell a little selective editing in that article, but it was BHO's DHS that released a report early in his administration declaring that "right wing extremism" (read: those that believe the Constitution is still the law of the land) were the biggest threat to the country. This particular incident in the article may have other factors, but the concept is completely believable. As far as the "keep fear alive" thing, I haven't heard of it.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31499
 
Do most people care about the truth? Hmmmm I wonder. Bashing is sooo much more fun and people really believe tabloid news. :lol:
 
If you agree with The Constitution of our country that it makes you a crazy militia guy.

The next logical step will be banning anything written by Thomas Jefferson from schools and public Libraries.
 
StudEbiker said:
No Julesa, I did smell a little selective editing in that article, but it was BHO's DHS that released a report early in his administration declaring that "right wing extremism" (read: those that believe the Constitution is still the law of the land) were the biggest threat to the country. This particular incident in the article may have other factors, but the concept is completely believable. As far as the "keep fear alive" thing, I haven't heard of it.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31499
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Um, I'm pretty sure any rational person believes the Constitution is still the law of the land. 'Cause it is.
You don't suppose the report was actually talking about people like this?
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So you're saying the government should not be watching any right wing extremist groups at all?
You sure about that? :|
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The Keep Fear Alive march is in support of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and all the other good souls out there, working hard and doing whatever they can to keep you all as afraid as possible, in the name of Freedom and Liberty. Based on the comments in this thread so far, it looks like they're doing a great job.
 
StudEbiker said:
Julesa, you should check your facts on domestic terrorism. When you do, you will find that is much more a dominion of the radical left than the radical right. No contest. You could start by googling Bill Ayers, a close friend of the current president.
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Are you talking about over the entire history of the nation, the last hundred years, the last fifty years, or the last twenty years? Anyway, I'm not really interested who is worse, right or left. I'm more interested in who's telling the truth, and who is spreading lies.
 
There was lots of crazy stuff that happened in the sixties, mostly before my time. I remember Tim McVeigh, then there was the Christian neo-nazi guy who shot up the Holocaust museum, there was the guy who flew his plane into the IRA building in Texas. I remember reading about some failed attacks by lefty animal rights groups, then there was the right wing racist guy who did the Olympic Park bombings (Rudolph or something)? There was the Unabomber (was he left or right, or neither?), a lot of stuff by the right wing Jewish Defense League... but that's only going back as far as the 80s. I know there were a lot of attackers with left wing ideology before then, but like I said, I don't see much value in tallying up which "side" has had more crazy. I'm more interested in who's telling the truth today.

And I'm a little concerned that all the crazy exaggeration and bullshit that is getting everyone all worked up, is gonna push the next Timothy McVeigh over the edge.
 
So for today, I think we can all agree this story is bullshit. I have other things to do, enjoy the rest of your weekend.
 
This story is not necessarily ALL bullshit. There is some selective information in the story for sure, that I will agree too, but there is no reason to believe that the fact that he is part of Oath Keepers doesn't have something to do with it as well since Obama's DHS has already stated that groups like Oath Keepers are potentially dangerous to the Republic. And as far as believing the Constitution is the law of the land, Obama has stated publicly that he believes the Constitution is a document of "negative rights" and that he wanted to fundamentally transform this country. If the Constitution is our fundamental governing document, what do you think he meant by that? I don't know if Beck and Limbaugh are keeping fear alive, but I do know that Obama and liberals everywhere should be very afraid of them. So I guess they are keeping fear alive. Liberals (especially those seeking election this year) are VERY afraid of them! And this is NOT a bad thing! :lol:
 
...then there was the Christian neo-nazi guy who shot up the Holocaust museum...
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julesa, The Bible clearly says that "....you will know a tree by its fruit..." and also, "...the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control..."

I do not believe that the individual you mentioned is a Christian. Going to any so-called 'church' would automatically make you a Christian, in the same way that standing in a garage makes you a car. Please don't be fooled so easily...

Matthew 7:20
Galatians 5:22
 
Somebody apparently screwed the pooch pretty good because the baby has been returned.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=215537

I think the inclusion of the association with Oath Keepers was a VERY BAD idea. If the father is a danger to the child, the mere inclusion of this fact (which should have no bearing on whether someone is a danger to their child) in the affidavit has probably led to the return of the child. Oopsie! :oops:
 
There was a history of abuse. What got me was this.
The mother had a hearing to terminate her relationship with her 2 older children. That doesn't happen overnite. They included his affiliation to the Promise keepers because they wanted to link it to his gun holdings.

Bunch of crazies. Just another way to say Obama is coming after you!
 
FIrst off, think with your own brain, and really care about what the truth is. Than, spread rumors because you might become insane because life as you perceived it, does not compute. Than as you come out of your addiction, if you can, maybe you realize that people matter, not political party....
 
Bear in mind, it's an election year story. :roll:

I don't know about that state, but in mine you have to be pretty messed up for the kid police to even notice you. But it is true, one call from the attorney general of the state, or similar lofty office could get em cracking. Annoying those folks is a risk. Then they bust you for whatever you got. In this case, the kids were his soft spot.

Speaking of the sixties radicals, I used to know several couples who were living off the computer, who's kids had no birth certificates, etc. No draft later for the kid that way was the thinking. Nothing new here.

As for the constitution, some pretty memorable presidents ignored it, Like Lincoln, Like Rosevelt. But others did too, Like NIxon. :roll: The military just does what the prez says theoretically, and lets the prez decide if it's legal. It's hard enough for the lawyers to decide it, let alone a private.
 
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