How do u run a 350w hub at 500 or more watts(anyone who has commented on this thread please read the newest post to gain a better perspective)

[larsen1921]

Okay here is the situation I'm running a nine pin wire from my helbiz wheel that I got I had just a regular Chinese 48 volt 350 W controller on it something happened I don't know what so about another one the first one had a blue wire yellow wire green wire they were big the new one only has a blue one and a yellow one and it doesn't have a whole switch of attached pictures you know what the frock to do please what do I do these frocking wires thank you
Only the hall wires

 

[amberwolf]

Your new conttroller is probably a brushed motor controller, but your original is brushless. So you'll need to get a brushless controller that matches the functions and capabilities your original controller had.

If you post clear well-lit readable pictures of the original controller's label, and of all the labels that it has on it's wires (we can see some but not all), so that we can also see which lable goes with which connector, it may help us help you find a matching one.

 

[slaphappygamer]

There is no doubt. The controller with blue and yellow phase wires will only work with a brushed motor. The blue and yellow are terminated to a M- and M+, on the controllers board. Also, there are no hall sensor wires on a brushed motor controller.

 

[larsen1921]

I don't have it working I do have it on and the motor did try to turn there has to be some way to do this help me

 

[larsen1921]

Your new conttroller is probably a brushed motor controller, but your original is brushless. So you'll need to get a brushless controller that matches the functions and capabilities your original controller had.

If you post clear well-lit readable pictures of the original controller's label, and of all the labels that it has on it's wires (we can see some but not all), so that we can also see which lable goes with which connector, it may help us help you find a matching one.

Hooking up the first one was easy but it had a shit ton of wires

 

[larsen1921]

Hooking up the first one was easy but it had a shit ton of wires......... the last pic is all the old one needed 2 run

 

[amberwolf]

I don't have it working I do have it on and the motor did try to turn there has to be some way to do this help me

No way to do it if it is the wrong kind of controller.

If there are only two thick motor wires, it is a brushed controller.

If there are three, it is a brushless controller.

Neither one can control the other kind of motor.

 

[larsen1921]

No way to do it if it is the wrong kind of controller.

If there are only two thick motor wires, it is a brushed controller.

If there are three, it is a brushless controller.

Neither one can control the other kind of motor.

Damn thanks

 

[larsen1921]

So my serial number isWT40H36V20171126
I need a kno how many watts it is please

 

[slaphappygamer]

Looks like a scooter motor. Can you share a picture of the whole vehicle? The serial number wont be enough.

 

[larsen1921]

Looks like a scooter motor. Can you share a picture of the whole vehicle? The serial number wont be enough.

 

[larsen1921]

Here

 

[larsen1921]

My hub says WT40H36V20171126 I'ma trying 2 figure out the watts

 

[999zip999]

? So there is one rear motor on the left hand side ?
What kind of battery do you have voltage amp your hour lead ,lithium, lifepo4.

 

[calab]

A front hub motor would be sweet on that beast!

 

[999zip999]

Let's see the controller is there anything written on it where'd you get this thing do you have a link ?

 

[larsen1921]

Okay so hear me out I am under the impression that you can take a 350 watt hub or motor or whatever and use something to make 500 or more watts go into it cuz you have of course a heavier wattage controller and a battery of course so how do I make the extra wattage go through it I know it might burn it up eventually I don't care about none of that I want to force it in there cuz I'm under the impression that if I put more power in it it will go faster yes it will destroy it sooner or later but it will go faster how do I do that on a brushless hub I'm aware on a brushed you used a speed controller of some sort can anyone help me

 

[larsen1921]

I'm going to be taking a 350 w helbiz wheel and I have an 1800 watt controller square wave and I want to make it actually put because it's a smart controller all that shit how do I make it do that

 

[lnanek]

You don't need to do anything. Buy a battery with a high A continuous discharge rated BMS, buy a controller with a high A output rating, make sure there are no current/speed limiting advanced settings programmed into the display/app for the controller. Done.

The motor has no capability to deny whatever you put into it other than burning up. Think of it like a lightbulb. You just put the voltage on it and you get an output from it and a temperature side effect. It can't stop you.

For longevity of the motor, it's good to buy one with temperature sensor, and a controller that reads the temperature sensor, and that can perform thermal rollback when needed. Also good to make sure the phase wires are thick with good soldered connections that won't heat up.

 

[larsen1921]

So I am kind of doing this very cheaply I don't have money to just do this kind of stuff but I have a decent controller that goes up to 1800 watts with 40 amps and then my battery is actually the BMS is like diverted because I harvested it out of a scooter but it's a damn good battery.... The motor/hub whatever you want to call it is from a Wheels helbiz bike I believe it's like 350 Watts 48v..... It tops out at 19 mph and I know that I cannot be cranking all 1800 watts into that bitch and it only top out at 19 so how do I force the rest of it in there this is my controller and display and as far as the settings go on the display I already have it on unlimited speed and I do not have the speed limiter white wire hooked up on my hub 9 pin either

 

[larsen1921]

So what my battery is two batteries tied into each other one battery is an 84 celled 52v 995wh.....the other is 48v 10.5Ah / 491.4Wh..... I have it ran to where it's adds distance and I charge it to 54.7v.........

 

[neptronix]

You're 100% blowing that motor running that much power in it. 2x the rated current usually works out, more than that, usually not..

No manual or other information included with that controller?

 

[larsen1921]

You're 100% blowing that motor running that much power in it. 2x the rated current usually works out, more than that, usually not..

No manual or other information included with that controlle nope

You're 100% blowing that motor running that much power in it. 2x the rated current usually works out, more than that, usually not..

No manual or other information included with that controller?

It's supposed to be a smart controller so and I haven't burnt it out yet I've got like 600 miles on it and it only goes the speed limit then it says it should go which is like 19 I want more I want more

 

[slaphappygamer]

If you have the 1800 watt controller at 40amps, then (from your screenshot) you have the 60v version and your 48v battery won’t work. The voltage of the battery must match the voltage rating of the controller

 

[neptronix]

You should really buy a name brand controller that's programmable, there's gazillions of no name controllers under different names on amazon, ebay, aliexpress, etc - too many for people to keep track of to find information on. I hope someone recognizes yours.