Interesting new E-bike battery coming from AmpedBikes

morph999,

Although some claim NYC police turn a blind eye to enforcement, it is illegal to ride an electric bike on public roads in NY. From the NY DMV:

You cannot register any of the motorized devices from the list below in NYS. You cannot operate these devices on sidewalks, public streets or highways in NYS. These devices are motor vehicles, but they do not have the correct equipment or design for operation on roadways.

* Motorized Scooter - a device with a motor attached and a handlebar for a standing rider. An example of a motorized scooter is the device called the Go-ped®.
* Mini-bike - a small, motorized device with two wheels and created for off-road use. A mini-bike does not qualify as a moped, a motorcycle or an ATV.
* Dirt Bike - a motorized device like a motorcycle, but created for and used for off-road use. Some "dirt bikes" qualify as an ATV. These vehicles can register and operate off-road as an ATV.
* Go-Kart - a small, motorized device with four wheels, created for off-road use. You cannot register a go-kart as a motor vehicle or ATV because a go-kart does not have the same equipment.
* Motor-assisted Bicycle - a bicycle to which a small motor is attached. A motor-assisted bicycle does not qualify for a registration as a motorcycle, moped or ATV and does not have the same equipment.

These devices are not allowed on any street, highway, parking lot, sidewalk or other area that allows public motor vehicle traffic. You are subject to arrest if you operate one of these motorized vehicles and do not have a registration, driver license, inspection, insurance or correct equipment. The DMV can not provide any information about operation of these devices on private property. Contact the local authorities and property owners.

NYS DMV - Frequently Asked Questions

Even if NYC e-bike owners feel immune from existing laws, some NY e-bikers on other forums, who feel they cannot ride their e-bikes on public roads without the risk of being stopped and ticketed by local police are trying to get their fellow NY riders to write their elected officials in the state legislature urging them to vote for legislation currently before the NY Legislature that will make use of e-bikes on public streets legal. Hopefully, NYC e-bike riders will act, too. Even though NYC may turn a blind eye to enforcement of the existing ban, the law is on the books and even if a cyclist is obeying all traffic laws, if a police officer wants an excuse to pull the cyclist over and he or she is on an e-bike, they've got it.

FYI--here's a WIKI, that might be useful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws#United_States
 
Yeah, no kidding. But it has been stirring ideas for how I'm gong to encase the a123 pack I want to build. Seems like it would be a simple method for keeping the elements out.
 
mwkeefer said:
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On a lighter note: I really hope this wasn't the warehouse these batteries were stored in:
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-Mike
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That is pretty low! I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed off. :(
 
Russell,

We are being very cautious about our designs and our inner workings of everything as of late....for obvious reasons. I will see if I can get some generic answers from Danny for you here.
 
Lysa,

Take it as a joke, it was only meant that way = )

Regards,
Mike
 
I apologize for steering this thread off course.I would like to see a section dedicated to actual state city and fed regs around the country,and a completely different one for those that"interpret"them and experiences and encounters w/law enforcement.PS in wisc. if it doesn't fall under the DMV,which requires liscensing and DOT regs to be used on "public roadways" it is considered a "toy" and prohibited from road use.No,this isn't my interpretation but is from the AG of wisc and actually used by a local scooter seller to argue the case for no license etc.,the exact opposite of what it says.You don't need no stinking badges but don't go off your driveway.
 
morph999 said:
NeezyDeezy said:
E-bikes of any kind are absolutely illegal anywhere in New York State. If he said federal law is in conflict with New York State law, Danny means well but he's no lawyer. States certainly have the rights to regulate vehicles. The law in NY states initial fines of up to $250. Subsequent citations can include significantly increased fines and confiscation. Enforcement is another question.

CAn you at least register them? How can they be illegal? that seems crazy.


Motorized bikes electric or gas are illegal in NJ also. If the model is on the state list you can register them, insure and dl license. Only "two wheel self balancing conveyance" are legal any place in NJ.
 
I'm really liking the stealth aspects of this battery as well. I noticed your update about the speed controller and am a bit confused, is this a battery and controller all in one? And if so how could you run these in paralel if you were inclined to do so.
 
gilnet said:
Having tried to register on ampedbikes.com for 2wks, 30 attempts,using 3 different EM accts,download install pdf 50+ times(not an exaggeration),communicate w/administrator or anyone who breathes(got 1 EM that plainly stated "thanks for your interest")and reading posts by "Danny"(adminisrator,and from other posts must be owner)arguing that NYC law is superseded by some federal fiat that he can't find right now,twice, I doubt the safety(and sanity) of buying anything,let alone batts from this outfit.If you are selling ekits and give legal rulings and you don't have some form of legal advice yourself,you are open to all kinds of legal grief.I'm eager for response.

We have had major issues with spam and a competitor posting on our forums so we had to change the way you register for our forums. I apologize wholeheartedly for any difficulties you have had registering for our forum. :oops:

By the way I am most always at the office if you have a question, if I do not answer please leave a message...all calls are returned within 24 hours.
 
gestalt said:
I'm really liking the stealth aspects of this battery as well. I noticed your update about the speed controller and am a bit confused, is this a battery and controller all in one? And if so how could you run these in paralel if you were inclined to do so.

Please email Danny at support@ampedbikes.com for answers to your question. I have not been involved in the design of this, sorry!
 
I am sad to hear that some have had so much trouble with the forums at Amped Bikes, and no, I'm not affiliated with them, just a customer, but I got my log on there a while back, maybe before the spamming began.

I have had nothing but good experiences and after buying & installing my fathers direct drive kit, I am now going to receive a geared motor kit that I purchased, and I expect just as good quality and customer service as I have had thus far.

If you have trouble getting an email through, you might also try calling them directly, I haven't had any trouble doing so when I had a question, they just ask that you try to email or check on their forums first, but if your answers aren't found that way, they are happy to answer the phone.

I have been lucky enough to talk to both Lisa and Danny, and they have been very professional and friendly. :)
 
Only "two wheel self balancing conveyance" are legal any place in NJ

The Sewgay legacy endures......http://forums.segwaychat.com/archive/index.php/t-35.html

Luckily their million bucks ran out before they got to the west coast.
 
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