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I don't know if this has been posted, but I think it's frickin awesome to have Austrian company KTM producing ebikes. Does anybody have a better picture to share?

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http://www.gizmag.com/ktm-egnition-electric-freeride-bicycle/16301/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=8a4a0dd806-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email
 
yes ive been looking,must be to early.i had a ktm supermotard and it was to much fun.but i definately like the ktm bicycle.
 
Hopefully KTM does well with it, so they're willing to go further into blurring the line between ebike and emoto. Being pedal assist is over the top as far as I'm concerned, because pedaling is often impossible at times you really need to be on the throttle accelerating. I have to assume that next time they'll get away from the batteries outside of the frame and go with a monocoque frame offering more room for batteries and protecting them better, along with a lighter frame construction.
 
Nice to see some big names in the game. Gives ebikes a more legit mainstream image.. John you bring up a huge not-often talked about advantage to powered bikes. You can be hanging off in a corner with one foot in the dirt and still be on the power. May even be able to slightly adjust attitude of the bike midair? Not sure on that one.
 
I would never have pedel first bike offroad or on :!:
your so much more stable thru rocks ,snow,mud ,offcamber ect ect when your not pumping away
just twist and concentrate :wink:
 
KTM makes some incredibly high quality dirtbikes. Riding them in woods/technical riding makes Italian and Japaneses dirtbikes feel primitive in comparison. It's one of the only non-Japanese manufactures that has throughly impressed me with engineering, metallurgy, and machining tolerances. They also tend to go for taking a simple design, and refining it into perfection rather than trying to add a bunch of extra gizmos/linkages/electronics/etc like many other bike mfg's like to do. In my experience, it's been simple designs with such an extreme level of refinement and quality manufacturing that it's virtually unbreakable, and as close to perfect as I could ask for in a machine (for there dirtbikes at least).

It makes me VERY happy to see KTM dipping its toe into ebike waters. :) :) :)
 
While I am happy to see big names in the game and refining the raw nature of the e mtbike, it does take away from the backyard engineering many on this forum have been crafting and refining here on ES. Also, it scares me that "being legit" will only lead to regulation and confinement. Once this happens, I can only assume the next logical leap will be dedicated E parks that are a sanctuary for this new beast that nobody knew existed. :mrgreen:

Either that or maybe we can just vacation down at John's ebike empire in Costa Rica where the local park rangers will be glad to give you a lift back into town if your electric KTM just blew some magic smoke on one of their beautiful trails. :lol:
 
Hey guys, unfortunately KTM bicycles and KTM motorcycles are built/owned by two separate companies. I could be wrong but here is a non-official but seemingly well researched post confirming...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=518043&postcount=9

Both seem to make cool bikes. :D
 
It's more than likely the same company, just two seperate entities in order to keep the lawsuits seperate. Do you really think KTM motorcycles would allow another company that sells a very similar product to use the same name and even lettering style? They also "happen" to be from Austria, what are the chances? Seeing as how this is relatively new tech, I'm sure some jackass will be sueing because the throttle got stuck and drove him off the side of a cliff, look for it in the news. :roll:
 
Ypedal said:
BionX kit .. :|

IMO going off-road requires at least 1000w, 2000 is better, 3000w is enough to get decent hills on soft ground.. the BionX at 500w... well...


100% agreed.

And the very concept of a pedalec off-road. All aboard the fail-boat! Pedalec's are awful enough on non-technical terrain, in the woods, the electric advantage would be the ability to keep just shifting your pedals to the sides they need to be on for making the corners/obstacles, and twist your wrist for acceleration control.
 
The egnition looks promising, no info on the KTM website, but gizmag ran this:

http://www.gizmag.com/ktm-egnition-electric-freeride-bicycle/16301/
The Austrian KTM eGnition is definitely one of the more interesting bicycles at last week's Eurobike show in Germany. It has the frame and components of a freeride mountain bike, but with a 1,000-watt Clean Mobile electric motor that delivers extra power when the rider is pedaling. The fact that the electric assist is only available when pedaling was a key factor in the design of the eGnition, as KTM wanted it to be clearly different than an electric motorbike. The folks who run Eurobike obviously approved, as it received their Design Award for this year’s event.

The eGnition is based around KTM’s Caliber non-electric freeride bike. The battery is mounted on the underside of the downtube, with the motor located in the bottom bracket. That motor can reportedly generate 150 Nm (110.62 lb./ft.) of power, and can propel riders up inclines of up to 16 percent. The battery takes 90 minutes to recharge.

Now, I have to admit that I have a bit of a problem with the whole idea of electric mountain bikes. I’m concerned that they’ll attract a certain yahoo population to the sport, who want to experience all the fun with a minimum of the riding skills or exercise. The fact that these riders will have that much more speed at their fingertips could also mean an increase in biker-hiker conflicts.

For its part, KTM sees the eGnition as allowing freeriders to be able to ride up to their favorite trails, instead of having to take a chair lift. The company also suggests that it could open up a whole new category of bicycle, known as eSUC, or eSportiveUtilityCycle.

The eLvcan: once again I have to say....I don't understand how a rear suspension bicycle can function properly with a hub motor. Maybe someone with an apptitude for physics could explain how it works. I think any application of torque will collapse the suspension.
Pedalec, bionX, the shiny image of KTM is in peril, I don't think KTM founder Hans Trunkenpolz would be pleased.
 
rebelpilot said:
I don't think KTM founder Hans Trunkenpolz would be pleased.


Sounds like it's just some independent group of clowns licensed to use the KTM brand-name to help 'pedal' the e-junk they build.

Which is truly a shame.
The real KTM company could do so much good for e-bike motor/drivetrain design and development with that staff of freakishly genus engineers they employ. I never thought I would choose something with an engine built in Europe over Japan, but KTM throughly won me over from the Japaneses when it comes to dirtbikes.
 
liveforphysics said:
rebelpilot said:
I don't think KTM founder Hans Trunkenpolz would be pleased.


Sounds like it's just some independent group of clowns licensed to use the KTM brand-name to help 'pedal' the e-junk they build.

Which is truly a shame.
The real KTM company could do so much good for e-bike motor/drivetrain design and development with that staff of freakishly genus engineers they employ. I never thought I would choose something with an engine built in Europe over Japan, but KTM throughly won me over from the Japaneses when it comes to dirtbikes.

+1 I don't know why KTM put their name on those crap ebikes!
Black Arrow
 
i liked this rig too, but looks like concept for now. Anyone heard anything promising about it? Like guy above, I assumed ktm would be good stuff too. Also they have electric motorcycle that they launched and did a big deal on so I do think they may have plans in the works. Feel sorry for aussies, europe, and other places that can only use pedelec, would be forced to hack in a throttle. Anyway, good to see the es guys always have their eyes and ears out for a good gear. Just wish more was available.
 
liveforphysics said:
KTM makes some incredibly high quality dirtbikes. Riding them in woods/technical riding makes Italian and Japaneses dirtbikes feel primitive in comparison. It's one of the only non-Japanese manufactures that has throughly impressed me with engineering, metallurgy, and machining tolerances. They also tend to go for taking a simple design, and refining it into perfection rather than trying to add a bunch of extra gizmos/linkages/electronics/etc like many other bike mfg's like to do. In my experience, it's been simple designs with such an extreme level of refinement and quality manufacturing that it's virtually unbreakable, and as close to perfect as I could ask for in a machine (for there dirtbikes at least).
I know a mechanic that worked for KTM. They actually do a trade-off, they work on the realm of material tolerance. You have to open a dirtbike's engine every few riding hours or something will surely break, while, let's say, a Yamaha will endure much more time, while being much less "fun" to drive.

I eared that KTM now also has some electric motorcycles... ?

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