My 54v/15ah Milwaukee pack for Revive

jondoh

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For the longest time I was going to get the Eonyx pack from electricrider.com but I decided to stick with the milwaukee packs. Mostly because of cost ($1600 for the pack I wanted) and partly because their 20 ah pack is huge! It would be tough to figure a way to mount it to my Giant Revive semi-recumbent. I have two electric bikes and it made sense to keep with the milwaukee setup. I can split up the pack to run both bikes at the same time or combine them to run the Revive.

So... it's great! With 15ah on tap, I feel invincible! I haven't really pushed it yet-- mostly because out of the 10 packs, 4 of them are not so strong. Combining weak and strong packs is usually a problem as the weak packs drain faster than the strong ones which make them even easier to damage and makes the whole pack inefficient. I unwittingly solved this problem by making the new cable with lower resistance than the old cable (i previously posted video of how to make this cable). The low resistance cable lets the good packs output more current than the old ones. In this way the old packs are protected. They actually kind of help the good packs. At the end of a ride, the old packs have higher voltage than the new ones where normally the reverse would be true. This is a good way of continuing to use older or weaker packs.

In the last video I show the safety device (key ring and hook) that saved my controller. I was riding, my tire blew and I wiped out. The battery bag flew off the bike but since it was attached with the hook, it didn't come completely off. If it did, it probably would have ripped the battery wires out of the controller.

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UPDATE:

Well I have to say that the 2s5p pack has been a rousing success. I like it so much that i use all 10 packs all the time where I thought I would use the extra 4 once in a while.

some things I've noticed:
1.top speed improves about 1 or 2 mph with 10 packs vs 6 packs
2.on cold days top speed improves by 6 mph!
3.when going fast, the good 6 pack drain much faster than the weak 4 pack
4.when going slow, all packs drain pretty evenly
5.when stopped, the weak packs (which usually have a slightly higher voltage) will equalize the stonger ones.

Yesterday, I went 21 miles and still had a bar left. I figure I spent 5 of those miles at top speed or accelerating to top speed. I also stopped for about a hour in the middle of this trip. I probably could have gone a few more miles.

So I'm pretty happy so far. A practical 20 mile range makes this bike a pretty practical vehicle.
 
Dude YOU ROCK ROCK!!!! And I'm jealous you have 10 and I only have 8. Dang I wish I bought more of those V28's when I found them for $80 shipped....

Ric
 
Ah, now we know what the baskets are for . . .

Motor, batteries, body weight . . kind of rear-heavy isn't it? How heavy are those batteries?

jondoh, if I may be so bold to make a suggestion: If I were running 10 packs, Dewalt or Mils, I would spread out the weight.

Maybe 3 on each side of the rear of the swing-arm, then 4 on the frame in front of the saddle. But it would require some clever mounting frames. But keeps the six pack weight down low.

J
 

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Stuff from Canada rocks...

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Emoli Batteries
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TylerDurden said:
Stuff from Canada rocks...

Every year about this time (holiday and all) we have a massive influx of Canucksters... aside from them constantly drinking themselves into a stupor and hitting on my girlfriend in a usually grossly inappropriate fashion ( :evil: ) they are okay in my book. They are keeping our troubled local economy alive at the very least and emolis are about the sweetest thing this side of Vermont maple syrup. :wink:

How's that for political? :p
 
Maybe 3 on each side of the rear of the swing-arm, then 4 on the frame in front

A better weight distribution would be nice but the advantages of the current setup are that:

1. batteries are nicely protected inside the basket. i wiped out once and the bike has fallen over numerous times without any problems.

2. having the batteries in the trunk is very convenient for carrying them to the charger.

3. the look is still reasonably stealthy. It looks like i'm carrying lots of luggage.
 
Another update:

Today i went 19 miles over 2 hours of mostly flat riding above 20 mph. I guess I was riding full throttle abou 15% of the time. It was a very hot day in san jose so I didn't want to linger at lower speeds. At the end of the ride, pack voltages varied from 26.8v to 27.2 volts. This is one bar on the built-in pack tester. One bar usually means a few more miles is possible.

On a side note, I now have 5 chargers. For some reason, charging 3 sets of batteries is a huge pain compared to just two sets. I think 20 miles after 2 hours is practical.
 
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