This company sent me an email. I haven't heard of them before, but they seem to have a good website and reasonable prices. Has anyone done business with them? I can't find anything about them. http://evantibikes.com/Evanti-E-1500-E-1500-Electric-Bike.htm
New Company?
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Drunkskunk
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First bike I saw was the E1500. No details on the battery, but it appears to be the same type of LiFePO4 offered by everyone. good for 20 amps peak maybe. The expect it to power 2 motors up to 40 amps. I see FAIL and LOSE written all over that plan.
And no details on the front fork, but I wouldn't bolt a bagic Pie into a suspension fork at. too much torque. I see Pain in someone's future.
And no details on the front fork, but I wouldn't bolt a bagic Pie into a suspension fork at. too much torque. I see Pain in someone's future.
Hillhater
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Drunkskunk said:
This is a frequent comment, but why not ? Too much torque for what ?
If the drop outs are appropriately strengthened ( steel, torque arms etc etc ), the front install is a simple way of adding power assist without compromising the existing rear drive system.
iamsofunny
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Bicycle Weight: 60 Lbs
no way, try 90 lbs
It has a kickstand. Any bike company that puts a kickstand on it... sigh....
no way, try 90 lbs
It has a kickstand. Any bike company that puts a kickstand on it... sigh....
Drunkskunk
100 GW
Hillhater said:
But thats a big IF. IF the forks were designed for the extra torque of a Pie, then it would be safe, but I would bet you a beer based on what I see of the rest of the bike, that the fork is an off the shelf alloy unit with torque washers at best.
The magic pie will produce massive initial torque even on low voltages and amps due to it's large diameter and slow speed winding. I would definitely not trust it on a front fork.
Rear motor is always better. A hub motor of that weight will make steering feel weird anyway. You may also have wheel slippage due to the torque of the motor wheel.
Rear motor is always better. A hub motor of that weight will make steering feel weird anyway. You may also have wheel slippage due to the torque of the motor wheel.
dogman dan
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I bet it rides real nice with double pies, and will climb a hill. But it does look like a lotta pie for the battery unless they are a A123's in the box. If it's not, then they better have 7 amp controllers in each of those pies.
I don't agree that front motor is automaticly bad, but I don't see enough torque controll device on front or rear.
Where the kickstand is, it should hold the bike fine as long as it's a strong one.
I don't agree that front motor is automaticly bad, but I don't see enough torque controll device on front or rear.
Where the kickstand is, it should hold the bike fine as long as it's a strong one.
nechaus
100 kW
aww yeah 2 pies would be an awesome friken ride...
but i have to agree on the front is crazy, have to be strong.
x2 pies is comparable to the x5 possibly better, but iv never tested the x5
but i have to agree on the front is crazy, have to be strong.
x2 pies is comparable to the x5 possibly better, but iv never tested the x5
dogman dan
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Guess they don't get the ES recomended vendor yet then eh? It's not easily earned.
rojitor
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W0W! They almost convinced me!
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ccmed said:
Brian,
All of our bikes are built to order. You placed a standard order with us on May 20 which takes 6 weeks. Then on June 8, you cancelled that order and ordered another bike using expedited processing, which typically takes about 2 weeks. As we told you, due to high demand, we're a few days behind schedule, but your bike was scheduled to ship this Tuesday. You didn't want to wait, so your order was cancelled. We don't know of too many other electric bike companies (if any) that offer a custom built 1500w 48v electric mountain bike with LiFePO4 batteries and a standard 2 year warranty for just under $2000, but we do hope you find another bike that you will enjoy.
Kevin J.
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dogman said:
Bottom of page:
http://evantibikes.com/aboutus.sc
Jeremy Harris
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EvantiBikes,
No real comment about the bikes, but worth noting that LiFePO4 cells are, in fact, also lithium polymer cells. The term refers to the polymer electrolyte that all lithium chemistry secondary cells use. I believe that the safety differentiation you're trying to make in your advertising is valid, but should be between LiCoO2 lithium polymer cells and LiFePO4 lithium polymer cells.
No real comment about the bikes, but worth noting that LiFePO4 cells are, in fact, also lithium polymer cells. The term refers to the polymer electrolyte that all lithium chemistry secondary cells use. I believe that the safety differentiation you're trying to make in your advertising is valid, but should be between LiCoO2 lithium polymer cells and LiFePO4 lithium polymer cells.
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Jeremy Harris said:
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for your input. I think I know which statement you're referring to. We put that information in there to draw a distinction between the types of batteries we use and what a lot of the competition uses. I think we were trying to just make a general distinction without being too wordy. So many companies out there are vague in their battery descriptions and chemistry, if they even list that information at all. To be honest, we were taking direct aim at a competitor who uses similar terminology, but you're right, we should probably set an example and be more specific. I will forward your comments over to that department and see if maybe they can elaborate a little more for the sake of clarification. Thanks again.
Kevin J.
Evanti Bikes
Jeremy Harris
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My guess is that your competitor may be using LiCoO2 cells, then, in which case there is a sound case for arguing that, in general, LiFePO4 cells are less likely to catch fire if abused. There are a few other lithium polymer chemistries around now, though, so it's probably worth finding out for sure which type the competitor in question is using.
John in CR
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Fork strength isn't the issue with front hubbies, except maybe those Yuba's. 
That's because during braking the forces on the fork are greater. The issue with front hubbies is that a controller failure can, and often does, result in immediate unexpected strong plug braking. Imagine that happening to your front wheel in a curve.
That's because during braking the forces on the fork are greater. The issue with front hubbies is that a controller failure can, and often does, result in immediate unexpected strong plug braking. Imagine that happening to your front wheel in a curve.
dogman dan
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Well, great. New York. Ships from there? Sorry, but I still don't know where the product ships from. It matters, since boat ship from china can take some time. "ships in two weeks" Again, it's just not clear, and your customers might want to know whether that means arrives at my house in two weeks, or gets sent within two weeks, from china, on a boat, etc.
Been around 5 years? That's very good, I popped my ebike cherry only 4.5 years ago. So you have longer experience than I do.
As you may already know, we can be a bunch of sharks here. One of the better ways to get us turned into freindly fish is to put your product into the hands of a respected ES member for a thourough review. Ad copy that sounds good to you, we want to see it proven.
Now that we have you here, I'd be interested to see what you are doing for torque controll, both front and back. If you ever read here much, you already know it's been a hot topic for a long time, and many good solutions have been tried.
Been around 5 years? That's very good, I popped my ebike cherry only 4.5 years ago. So you have longer experience than I do.
As you may already know, we can be a bunch of sharks here. One of the better ways to get us turned into freindly fish is to put your product into the hands of a respected ES member for a thourough review. Ad copy that sounds good to you, we want to see it proven.
Now that we have you here, I'd be interested to see what you are doing for torque controll, both front and back. If you ever read here much, you already know it's been a hot topic for a long time, and many good solutions have been tried.
not a real company--i have called upwards of 10 times and always got the same guy or a recorded message--beware of claims from this guy--can not deliver product--where are the reviews from the many happy customers--BEWARE ---SCAM ALERT--STILL WAITING FOR REFUND.do yourself a favor and buy elsewhere...we all know service is best before delivery and this kevin guy,acting like a real company ,provides lies and no service now..can not imagine a warranty issue..but thats probably never happened since i doubt they have ever delivered product.
found your factory info,remember when you stated your office was attached to factory....FRAUD
BILL OF LADING
BILL OF LADING NO.
AMIGS23L043496
ARRIVAL DATE
2012-04-13
VOYAGE NO.
121E
VESSEL NAME
HANJIN SHANGHAI
SHIPPER
CHANGZHOU TREND PRODUCTS
INTERNATIONAL TRADING CO LTD NO 89 QINGYUN ROAD CHANGZHOU CHINA
CONSIGNEE
SCOOTERLECTRIC INC
471 NORTH BROADWAY SUITE 305 JERICHO NY 11753 USA 001-646-545-1232
NOTIFY PARTY
SCOOTERLECTRIC INC
PORT OF LOADING
Shanghai
PORT OF DISCHARGE
New York, New York
DECLARATION OF GOODS
ELECTRICAL BIKE
BILL OF LADING
BILL OF LADING NO.
AMIGS23L043496
ARRIVAL DATE
2012-04-13
VOYAGE NO.
121E
VESSEL NAME
HANJIN SHANGHAI
SHIPPER
CHANGZHOU TREND PRODUCTS
INTERNATIONAL TRADING CO LTD NO 89 QINGYUN ROAD CHANGZHOU CHINA
CONSIGNEE
SCOOTERLECTRIC INC
471 NORTH BROADWAY SUITE 305 JERICHO NY 11753 USA 001-646-545-1232
NOTIFY PARTY
SCOOTERLECTRIC INC
PORT OF LOADING
Shanghai
PORT OF DISCHARGE
New York, New York
DECLARATION OF GOODS
ELECTRICAL BIKE
Just as a note for potential customers and those discussing this "new company": "Evantibikes"
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=27601
is posting from the same IP that "ChampionElectricBicycles"
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=23016
posts from.
Whether or not that means they're the same person, I leave to others to determine.
Both companies, however, are for all practical purposes the same, as they use the same phone number, address, etc. Both usernames been banned for creating duplicate accounts, which is against the rules, and is considered spamming. The company(ies) in question may contact the moderators for discussion of this if they wish to remain on ES, and their accounts can be merged.
http://championelectricbicycles.com/aboutus.sc
http://evantibikes.com/aboutus.sc
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=27601
is posting from the same IP that "ChampionElectricBicycles"
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=23016
posts from.
Whether or not that means they're the same person, I leave to others to determine.
Both companies, however, are for all practical purposes the same, as they use the same phone number, address, etc. Both usernames been banned for creating duplicate accounts, which is against the rules, and is considered spamming. The company(ies) in question may contact the moderators for discussion of this if they wish to remain on ES, and their accounts can be merged.
http://championelectricbicycles.com/aboutus.sc
http://evantibikes.com/aboutus.sc
Jeremy Harris
100 MW
Nicely spotted, AW!
It's things like this that flag all sorts of warning signs to me. Why should a reputable company want to trade under two different identities? Most companies would want to build a reputation for quality, value and service that enhances their company name and standing, so dividing the market like this makes no sense. On the other hand, if the company is really just a front for a Chinese drop-shipper then perhaps there are other reasons for doing this.
It's things like this that flag all sorts of warning signs to me. Why should a reputable company want to trade under two different identities? Most companies would want to build a reputation for quality, value and service that enhances their company name and standing, so dividing the market like this makes no sense. On the other hand, if the company is really just a front for a Chinese drop-shipper then perhaps there are other reasons for doing this.
They actually trade under at least three, another besides the two above is Scooterlectric.
dogman dan
1 PW
Well, anybody can have several brands. General Motors, for example was several companies that are one.
But one ES identity, such as Scooter Electric, is cruicial. Changing names to shed a reputation, we've seen that before and it always makes us think of good ol Jimmy Wu.
If it's going to be shipped from China. SAY SO.
But one ES identity, such as Scooter Electric, is cruicial. Changing names to shed a reputation, we've seen that before and it always makes us think of good ol Jimmy Wu.
If it's going to be shipped from China. SAY SO.
John in CR
100 TW
5 years isn't reasonable either, since the Champion domain was created in September and the Evante in February. Hell my Hubmonster.com domain is almost as old as Champion and I haven't even used it yet, though I have been in business a whole 2 weeks.
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