Nuclear powered Ebikes

[LockH]

In a current ES thread "Fukushima melting down?", the Beast from Melbourne Australia mentions the 2013 documentary film "Pandora's Promise". Turns out parts/all of it have arrived on Youtube. Part 1:
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... and it compares the (sorta "tiny") risks of nuclear power with current debate on "Global Climate Change".

Right now "pro nuclear" Nuclear Energy Institute in the US suggests:

For a typical 1,000 MWe BWR or PWR, the approximate cost of fuel for one reload (replacing one third of the core) is about $40 million, based on an 18-month refueling cycle. The average fuel cost at a nuclear power plant in 2014 was 0.76 cents / kWh.

Seen here:
http://www.nei.org/Knowledge-Center...ts-Fuel,-Operation,-Waste-Disposal-Life-Cycle

Locally...
http://www.ontario-hydro.com/index.php?page=current_rates

Paying from 8 cents/kWh all the way up to 16.1 cents/kWh. But that's probably "funny money" and "creative accounting" by politicians? With lots of talk now about future price increases.

And locally our "province" (like a US "state") completely cut out coal burning for electrical generation recently...
http://media.cns-snc.ca/ontarioelectricity/ontarioelectricity.html

(I see currently just over 60% nuclear.)

Hmmmm.... Up to 16+ cents... or 76 cents... Not sure watts up with those numbers.?

But the whole premise for this post was to ask whether folks already living better electrically for their transportation needs might be interested in buying into the purchase (construction) of a "anywhere from $360 billion to $1.6 trillion" nuclear power plant (seen here
http://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/nuclear-power/cost-nuclear-power#.Vcj5nfmvO-8

Where costs to finance would be a line item added to their monthly electricity bills, and 100% of their power gets sourced from the new "cleaner" electrical generation plant instead of the (more expensive? dirtier fossil fueled?) sources used today.

Local "Bullfrog Power" offering "alternative" "green" sources describes nuclear as either a "polluting" and/or "environmental damaging" source (not sure which):
https://www.bullfrogpower.com/home/home.cfm

Anyway... Buncha Grey Haired Hippies. :lol:

So question only to the ES Alt. Reality Nation please? Anybuddy here interested in buying into a share of their own nuclear power station?

Just curious. As always.
Tks

 

[nutnspecial]

Y E S

And nuclear batteries too! Shoot me to the moon scotty! Inner monologue -> (hmm, nuclear spaceships anybody? Wait, they should already exist! :lol: )

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I'm trying to educate myself, and that includes the nuke weapons because there is a noteable scientific difference in techicallity, and the potential harm to be considered of either. A very interesting subject indeed.

 

[LockH]

Hehe... Settle Down. Thought was to interest enough here to launch a nuclear generator construction to feed power into the grid. (Our province of Quebec for example sells surplus hydro electric power to New York State as I recall.) Plan would be to KickStarter-style build enough investors - millions of us - to build our own nuclear generating station "Government-Free". Can't imagine the permits required. :lol: Anybuddy here NOT believe in electric power??? We've already got transportation nailed down (with storage by battery).

There's another thread here too "How to Solar Charge an Electric Bicycle":
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28436

... just not about getting nuclear power... handy via "the grid". Home province Ontario is already hitting about 60% nuclear. North America-wide I haven't checked about other places with lots of nuclear and hydro already. But I'll guess there's lots still burning coal and watt not.

Just seems to me the time might be "ripe" to kick another nuclear power source into gear. 8)

Think of it maybe like a political party advancing this "project".

 

[nutnspecial]

Hehe... Settle Down.

Heheh
http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=452&p=715551#p715551 This forum topic suggest nukes are bs

This nuclear physicist suggests safe compact nuclear reactors are perfectly possible. Gaylen Winsor
Last 1/2 hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA Or just look him up.

Think of it maybe like a political party advancing this "project".

Y E S - to whatever extent the project may be?

 

[adriftatsea]

I would gladly 'opt-in' financially to live in a micro-state built from scratch around cheap thorium ran by a mix of engineers and the aforementioned 'grey haired hippies'.

Not necessarily to live a more eco-friendly first world life, but to push towards mass desalination, larger infrastructure projects, and other 'big ideas' that make sense when decoupled from energy restrictions/costs.

The notion that one can't treat citizenship like a marketplace has led to a lot of libertarians pushing for the creation of 'micro-nationstates' which might be where we see such an idea become reality.

(hmm, nuclear spaceships anybody? Wait, they should already exist! :lol: )

People are working on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_propulsion#Spacecraft

And they even proposed building large spacecraft for lots of people to GTFO of the Earth's atmosphere:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_%28nuclear_propulsion%29

 

[LockH]

"compact nuclear reactors"? Was thinking just of going "low tech"/large, as in "the devil we know". Or "conventional", in other words. Deuterium-oxide (heavy water) moderator using uranium type maybe:

So a "public goods" thing that we get to share using existing infrastructure eg 120 volts AC output.

Wiki thingee on these reactors:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANDU_reactor

Mentioned there "external factors such as government action". AKA inaction maybe.

 

[LockH]

"Japan restarts first reactor since post-Fukushima shut down"
http://inhabitat.com/japan-restarts-first-nuclear-reactor-since-2011-fukushima-disaster/

 

[LockH]

Totally OT, but nuclear powered submarine seen here:
[youtube]uI-2j3ZDx50[/youtube]

:wink:

 

[nutnspecial]

I have a lot of problems with the standard model. If they are as dangerous, expensive, and non self sustaining as we're led to believe, I don't think they're a good idea at all.
Perhaps the newer (pebble bed) propositions would make more sense.

Honestly, I think corn and soybeans (which feed cattle and go into everything), virally and bacterially modified, is far more a dangerous idea, and exponentially so the modus operandi of that company. Far more important for the public to form independant opinions immediately, if it's not already too late. Just look at the general health and natural impacts. Any safety issues with even old nuclear pale in comparion imo.

 

[LockH]

Reading... reading...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_safety_and_security

 

[amberwolf]

The real problem with nuclear power is where to put all that waste. Since we don't want it here on Earth, we put it on the moon...but then, we wind up with this problem:

September 13th, a day of remembrance

 

[LockH]

"MIT’s groundbreaking mini fusion reactor could power the world within 10 years"
http://inhabitat.com/groundbreaking...able-nuclear-fusion-industry-within-10-years/

 

[striider]

The real problem with nuclear power is where to put all that waste. Since we don't want it here on Earth, we put it on the moon...but then, we wind up with this problem:

September 13th, a day of remembrance

Just put in in high orbit and let our grandkids' kids figure it out! Maybe they can figure out teleportation before the orbit decays and it comes "home" :lol: