P-51 Bullet Electric Bike

[chuyskywalker]

Bullet - Jet Black

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Love this aesthetic. That suspension setup looks phenomenal. Many of the specs are underwhelming, even for a "street legal"* bike. Even more so when you see the $3,850 price tag. (Compare it to something like the Grizzly which is $500 cheaper.)

* They, perhaps, incorrectly categorize as Class 2. The video has speeds up to 32mph, so it's technically not even Class 3. Maybe that bike was unlocked in some fashion.

 

[2old]

It's "street legal in CA as a moped (maybe), but if so requires a license plate, MC license for the operator and insurance.

 

[SilverTT]

Interested in any reviews from people who have had some seat time. Seems like a better version of the Super 73RX style bikes.

 

[Humhead74]

I picked up a used one a few months ago. I had talked to the owners at an Indian Motorcycle event and rode one of their bikes. Suspension is awesome. I hadn't ridden many e-bikes prior, so don't have a lot to compare it to, except research and looking at the specs of many. I got the bike at half price, so that is a major factor in my purchase. 4K for any of these things drives me nuts! I ride motorcycles and I can get them cheaper... The only thing turning me on to the e-bikes is that there are hardly any restrictions on riding a Class 2 anywhere you ride a normal bicycle.
The bike is comfortable and it has a decent amount of power. Not going to be doing any throttle wheelies or flying up any dunes on it though. On a 16-degree grade, I have to assist in mode 5. Also not going to top 15 or 16 miles up an incline at full throttle. I'm 6'1" about 220lbs. On a flat straight, I can hit about 25mph. I have yet to hit +-30mph. I get roughly 10 miles on a charge currently. Far Cry from 40. so unless you are in Mode 1 or 2... maybe 3 and allowing the pedal "assist" to operate, without a gear system the pedals become useless at any speed. This battery is probably far from 100% efficient and I am looking to head up to their shop and possibly get a second setup attached. Also, mine did not come with the headlight to draw more power from the battery. I did get an off-brand 73 for my son on Amazon and he is getting 40 miles on a charge and will do about 25+ in mode 4. It still claims to be Class 2 with a 750-watt motor. Has a lower Peak than the P51. I love the bike though. Take it all over town now and plan on taking it for camping trips. I'd rather have the power and torque of a Sur-ron or Talaria, but also don't feel like dealing with plating it to be able to ride on the street and they are starting to crack down pretty hard in So Cal due to all the kids riding stupid. Hefty fines and marks on your license. They'll go after the parents as well as the kids now. I've had many discussions with the local and other sheriff's Departments and am trying to push them to do classes at the schools on Ebike safety and rules.

 

[chuyskywalker]

I got the bike at half price, so that is a major factor in my purchase.

That is a great price for these, frankly. You got a great deal -- I absolutely would purchase one at that price too.

Also, mine did not come with the headlight to draw more power from the battery.

Lights draw basically nothing compared to 10m of pushing a motor.

I'd rather have the power and torque of a Sur-ron or Talaria, but also don't feel like dealing with plating it to be able to ride on the street and they are starting to crack down pretty hard in So Cal due to all the kids riding stupid.

From what I've seen it's very easy to do the plating, but can sometimes be hit or miss. That said, it's also really easy to add a pedal kit and have them run in Class 3 mode and be completely legal. (Just because something CAN be configured to go faster doesn't make it against the law when it's setup lower.)

Enjoy the bike; they do look like a lot of fun.

 

[snobardo]

Bullet - Jet Black

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Love this aesthetic. That suspension setup looks phenomenal. Many of the specs are underwhelming, even for a "street legal"* bike. Even more so when you see the $3,850 price tag. (Compare it to something like the Grizzly which is $500 cheaper.)

* They, perhaps, incorrectly categorize as Class 2. The video has speeds up to 32mph, so it's technically not even Class 3. Maybe that bike was unlocked in some fashion.

Hello! Thank you for review. Very interesting!

 

[Dlarrabee]

I picked up a used one a few months ago. I had talked to the owners at an Indian Motorcycle event and rode one of their bikes. Suspension is awesome. I hadn't ridden many e-bikes prior, so don't have a lot to compare it to, except research and looking at the specs of many. I got the bike at half price, so that is a major factor in my purchase. 4K for any of these things drives me nuts! I ride motorcycles and I can get them cheaper... The only thing turning me on to the e-bikes is that there are hardly any restrictions on riding a Class 2 anywhere you ride a normal bicycle.
The bike is comfortable and it has a decent amount of power. Not going to be doing any throttle wheelies or flying up any dunes on it though. On a 16-degree grade, I have to assist in mode 5. Also not going to top 15 or 16 miles up an incline at full throttle. I'm 6'1" about 220lbs. On a flat straight, I can hit about 25mph. I have yet to hit +-30mph. I get roughly 10 miles on a charge currently. Far Cry from 40. so unless you are in Mode 1 or 2... maybe 3 and allowing the pedal "assist" to operate, without a gear system the pedals become useless at any speed. This battery is probably far from 100% efficient and I am looking to head up to their shop and possibly get a second setup attached. Also, mine did not come with the headlight to draw more power from the battery. I did get an off-brand 73 for my son on Amazon and he is getting 40 miles on a charge and will do about 25+ in mode 4. It still claims to be Class 2 with a 750-watt motor. Has a lower Peak than the P51. I love the bike though. Take it all over town now and plan on taking it for camping trips. I'd rather have the power and torque of a Sur-ron or Talaria, but also don't feel like dealing with plating it to be able to ride on the street and they are starting to crack down pretty hard in So Cal due to all the kids riding stupid. Hefty fines and marks on your license. They'll go after the parents as well as the kids now. I've had many discussions with the local and other sheriff's Departments and am trying to push them to do classes at the schools on Ebike safety and rules.

I believe you're getting the wrong information on your statement about cracking down on E-bike riding. Unless we have first hand E bike riders that have had any of what you stated happen to them I don't believe any of it...... it's just gossip.
I do believe in bike safety classes, we use to teach them in Elementary school.

 

[Chalo]

Love this aesthetic.

Ah yes-- the appearance that screams, "I never rode a bike after I went to middle school, and I have no intention of ever trying a real one." Also "I know nothing about anything and I don't want to change that."

A bike that sucks without a motor, still sucks when you add a motor to it.

 

[biknut]

The first time I saw this bike it made a good impression on me. I like the unique and functional modern look. The suspension looks good too, and people seem to always say it has good suspension. It's to bad it costs so much. With the competition coming out lately I don't think 750w is going to cut it at that price. I think it would be a great donor bike for a custom build though. Something with mo powwa.

 

[dirtyrider9323]

Thanks for sharing the video

 

[Lectriceye]

I don't live in California and I am glad that I don't; they seem to be going a little crazy on ebike rules. Not to pick on California, but the whole international community is going a little insane on the issue. They probably did the same thing at the turn of the century, when most people were riding horses and mules and along came the automobile. Sure, I believe in speed limits for cars, motorcycles and whatever, but to single out an ebike with a bunch of biased rules that don't apply to conventional bikes is ridiculous, especially the power issue. For example, what has power got do with anything? I can ride my road bike down the road on a flat surface faster than 20 mph, the prevailing limit for class 1 & 2 bikes. My ebike with 2000w, doesn't go a lot faster than conventional bikes except on uphills. But geology and physics say what goes uphill must also go downhill usually in equal amounts. The question is, why is it okay to go 30 mph downhill on ebikes without power but not okay to go uphill at 30 mph with battery (not that I could), after all I can stop a lot faster going up hill than going downhill at the same speed. So now, max motor RPM's and gear ratio's come into play, here I am preaching to the choir. So I ask another question why take an ebike "capable" of doing 30 mph, and kicking them out of the bike lane and putting them in traffic doing 45 mph or so?

 

[chuyskywalker]

That suspension setup looks phenomenal.

I got to demo ride one of these at a local Electrify Expo a few months back and, yeah, all the videos which tout the suspension and comfort of this thing are not wrong. Absolutely stellar.

Still too expensive to justify, otherwise though. But, at least if you get it, it wouldn't be a let down

I don't live in California and I am glad that I don't; they seem to be going a little crazy on ebike rules.

I'm not going to get deep into a discussion on such in this thread, but I can assure you, the legislation heehaw reaches waaaay beyond CA with the 3 class definition taken up by the majority of states at this point.

 

[Lectriceye]

Clearly it is a legislative wave that goes beyond state and international borders, mostly born out of ignorance.

 

[Chalo]

Clearly it is a legislative wave that goes beyond state and international borders, mostly born out of ignorance.

And yet, that thing isn't a bicycle and shouldn't enjoy bicycle privileges anywhere.

The proliferation of 7000-9000 pound trucks as "cars" doesn't mean a Geo Metro or a Citroën 2CV becomes a bicycle, and it doesn't mean an ugly, lame little motorcycle becomes a bicycle either.

 

[2old]

IMO, our "Class" rules, which are more liberal than most other countries that have limitations, make sense. Anyone who doesn't like them can just ride an "unadorned" bike and not worry about the "e" restrictions.