PAS Sensor for 24mm spindle Crank w/ Outboard BB Cups

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Hi There ES Peeps,

I've been searching around to see if there is already a thread for this issue and haven't found anything. But if it's already out there, please let me know.

I own a somewhat modern steel cyclocross bike. As such, as a general rule, I use cranksets with integrated spindles and outboard bottom bracket cups (i.e. Shimano Hollowtech, SRAM GXP, FSA MegaExpo, ect.). However, pretty much all the e-bike products seem to made for square-taper BB's. Specifically, it seems like all the PAS sensors on the market are designed around square-taper BB's.

So has anyone seen PAS options for outboard BB Cups? Either DIY or production versions?

From my research so far, I couple options:
1) Chainring mounted magnets - http://www.ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicycle-parts/torque-sensors/pas-12p-chr.html
2) Drilling out/Gluing on a split magnet ring - http://www.ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicycle-parts/torque-sensors/pas-12p.html
2b) I imagine you could also easily sandwich this "ring" style sensor behind the outboard bearing cup as an alternative to using the cable-tie mounted sensor from the previous links - http://www.elifebike.com/peng/iview.asp?KeyID=dtpic-2012-8K-RJ9Q.3M8TH
0) This sensor style also seems intriguing, but no idea how you could make it work with external/outboart BB cups - https://bmsbattery.com/ebike-kit/705-dual-hall-sensor-12-signals-easy-assembling-pas-ebike-kit.html

I suppose I'm just surprised by the lack of options at this stage in ebike evolution. There are a ton of modern cranks (maybe the majority?) using integrated spindles - either 24mm or more recently 30mm. The options above could work, but if you've got a nice integrated spindle crankset, gluing isn't an attractive premise. And chainring bolt circle diameter (BCD) standards are all over the place these days (annoyingly). Definitely limits your options
 

I think what you might find works is the KT-D12L left side mounting PAS sensor kit, from Kunteng. They are available from ChangZhou SuRing Motor Technology Company on Aliexpress.
I have just fitted one to my my new Panther Hercules Fat Bike, which has the same style if cranks etc you refer to. You will need to trim away some of the plastic "fingers" around the axle location hole on the magnet ring, and thus is easy to do with a sharp knife. The magnet ring is also a split design, making it easy to work on and install..
It works very well on my bike.. Maybe it could be a good option for yours?
 
Another photo showing PAS sensor fitted to left chainstay, maximum gap between sensor and magnet ring is 6mm for reliable operation..
 

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Hi Johne-bike,

Thanks for the suggestion and the photos. It is good to know that I will just need to cut the plastic "fingers" off of the magnet disc to fit the 24mm crank spindle. That is probably the way I will go. Now I just need to get all my parts ordered and the build underway 8)
 
I believe this may work. Senglar has several videos on YOU TUBE. The videos aren't in English but the site does have English


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nts5ifOYcHk

http://www.senglar.de/shop/Assembling-and-Spareparts-/Senglar-Spare-parts/PAS-Sensor-with-platter::49.html
 
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