Request experts opinion: BMX Handlebars!

MattyCiii

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I'm thinking real hard about refitting my A-Line with BMX style handlebars. The kind seen here:

http://www.danscomp.com/serve/faq/handlebar_faqs.htm

Two things I like about them are:
1) The cross bar - for strength, and to mount stuff to (CA, lights, stereo speakers, horn, etc...)
2) The rise. I want a slightly more upright riding position than I have now.

It seems they come in CroMo, which is what I want.

Any thoughts on this idea? Any brand recommendations?

THANKS in advance!
 
BMX handlebars are a great way to get you closer to that classic dutch cruiser upright position without making your bike look silly. It's far more comfortable on longer rides! Keep one thing in mind though, the bar diameter is different than typical MTB sizes, it's a bit smaller, ~25mm instead of ~27mm, something along those lines. You might also want a BMX stem as well.

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This is how i rock the BMX bars on my cargo bike..

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I used the same bars to give me a lean-forward position on my magic pie race bike to counteract the geometry problems.
 
Thanks Nep!
That's a great point, I'll have to be careful of diameter and see what ripple effects a change in size causes downstream. That, plus I'll guess if I looked far and wide I can find bars in BMX shape/style but with the tube diameters I presently support (fingers crossed!)
 
maybe look for trials bars ( motorcycle ) they have a brace ( or just buy the brace ) and come in different rises/widths and are very strong :mrgreen: but i expect they will not be as cheap as you can get a set of bmx bars
 
gwhy! said:
maybe look for trials bars ( motorcycle ) they have a brace ( or just buy the brace ) and come in different rises/widths and are very strong :mrgreen: but i expect they will not be as cheap as you can get a set of bmx bars

Great advice. I'd never heard of motorcycle trials!
Cheap/inexpensive is not one of the criteria!

Actually, the first few google hits for "motorcycle BMX handlebars" look like they'll fit the bill too... :D

This is why I love ES. People with all kinds of experiences and backgrounds all contribute to the pool of shared knowledge.
 
I've used, and continue to use, a mess of different BMX handlebars. I've set up at least dozens of other folks with BMX bars to get them the best fit for whatever they were doing with their bikes.

MTB bars and most other upright bars have a 25.4mm center diameter. BMX bars have a 22.2mm center diameter. (They both have 22.2mm diameter grip sections.) You can get shims to take up the difference, but you'll have to use a stem that clamps the bar hard enough to keep it from slipping. It also has to be a faceplate type stem, because you can't slide the stem on from the end of the handlebar due to the crossbar.

Note that the BMX bar pattern is so inherently strong that it doesn't really matter whether it's CrMo steel, mild steel, or aluminum. The crossbar provides more stiffness and reinforcement than any material properties.

The main concern for a multispeed bike or e-bike is making sure you have enough straight section outside the bend of the bars to accommodate all the things you must mount there: brake levers, shifters, throttle, grips, bell, etc. BMX bikes only need enough room for grips; these days they often use specially bent brake levers that sit below the bend.

My favorite BMX bar for doing conversions of non-BMX bikes is this one, which any bike shop can get for you from J&B Importers (a wholesale distributor).

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The straight ends are actually longer than depicted in the photo. It's ordinary hi-tensile steel, but it only costs about $15 retail, and it's plenty strong. The real benefit to this bar is that there is no major bend in the grip section to interfere with the mounting of normal controls and accessories. The crossbar is a continuation of the grip sections-- so it's the right size to accommodate lights, bottle cages, cyclocomputers, GPS, clip-on aero bars, and whatever else that does not have to slide on from the bar end. This is by a wide margin the easiest BMX bar to make coexist with your other bike parts. It's referred to as "CW style", because the 1970s and '80s CW brand bar was mitered the same way, but the real vintage CW bars are too short on the ends for your application.

If you use the more usual bend of BMX bar with downward bends and a welded-in crossbar, you'll need a wider handlebar to have the same amount of room for mounting things. If you do decide you'd rather have something fancy/sexy/lightweight/heat-treated or whatever, I recommend measuring the stack of stuff (controls and grips, protuberances towards the inboard side) on your handlebars, taking the tape measure with you to a BMX-specific bike shop, and checking out your practicable options.

There are many motocross, ATV, and other motorcycle bars that also feature a reinforcing crossbar. But they are usually wider, much heavier, not as tall, and bent to provide a lot more pullback than BMX bars. I usually can't get them to set up worth a darn on a bicycle. There are exceptions, like my custom MTB that uses an ATV bar:

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The scale of this bike is so big that the bars look sort of normal, but they are 31.5" wide.

Anyway, I don't generally recommend moto bars for bicycles unless you have an unusual fit issue.
 
It's a great idea if you are looking for that more upright riding position. All my bikes have some kind of riser bar on them.

Dirt rides usually get just a few inches, but road bikes get a tall bar. I use a shim if it's a true bmx bar to get it tight in the stem. The crossbar I find very handy for hanging a bag that holds stuff like sunglasses, snacks, etc.

Mostly though, I use an inexpensive steel riser bar that fits mtb stems. I think they are about 5 inch rise or something like that. Under 20 bucks at the LBS. Even more important to my comfort, is as much backsweep as I can get. 1 degree is not enough, and I just hate bars with no sweep at all. I think these cheap steel riser bars are 3 degrees, which really helps my hand fatigue on rides longer than 10 miles.

I like the look of that one Chalo recomends. Having the same bar across the middle makes it easy to mount a CA and double headlights with stock bike mounts. The bmx bars I have scrounged off of junk bikes have a crossbar unsuitable for the handlebar mount stuff.
 
THANKS!

Chalo that's great info - I appreciate the thorough explanation. You addresses my needs beyond my own analysis - I am definitely looking at the CW style now. Indeed it is the "stuff stack" that is most important to me. The bars I'm using now simply need a little more straight section before the bends and the flared out center.

Dogman thanks for reminding me about back sweep, I know what you mean about fatigue.
 
I've never liked riding mtb's with typical mtb bars, they're too low and don't give me the same control and maneuverability of the bike that bmx bars give me, that's my personal preference anyway. I don't know why all mtb's come with low bars.

But yeah, mtb's mostly have 1" clamps, some 1 1/8", and bmx bars are 7/8", shims work and can be got cheap, cleanest fitment for 1 1/8" forks is swap out the mtb A-head for a bmx A-head stem.

Never bought alloy bars for a dirt bike, I'd worry they might snap, much prefer they bend rather than lose control and maybe dig in somewhere, ouch!. If I did it would have to fluted, though I haven't seen any for many years.
 
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