Successor to the infineon clone controllers in the 1000-2000w power range?

Well, with zeropress, we can collaborate on the same article ^_^
I'm a pretty good writer if i put max effort into it, i can take scattered notes and convert it into something nice.

VESC is a deep topic so i think there should be a for dummies and advanced version!
 
Very good thread. I was looking at the sprinted dual controller and led back here.. can’t tell if it is exciting or my head hurts. ;)
 
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Very good thread. I was looking at the sprinted dual controller and led back here.. can’t tell if it is exciting or my head hurts. ;)
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Glad you enjoyed!

Just a ping on this.

The flipsky is finally wired up; the brake lever wires had to be lengthened because they were comically short. The wiring itself is as cheap as i thought, part of the brake lever had to be machined off to fit the bike, and one of the wires fell out from a connector because it was not crimped well. I decided to solder the wire back on instead of crimping it.

Immediately i'd say the build quality is cheap on the exterior and the resulting mess of wires is not as big of an improvement over the VESC than i expected. This could be massively improved.

The throttle and brake lever seem pretty decent in quality. I believe this brake lever might be analog ( 3 wires ).

Visual comparison of all controllers:

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Flipsky on the right

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Here's the ebrake lever cable shortness problem originally, it need another ~2 feet.

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it's been too hot to ride lately, we should have a short break from the heat later in the week and i will give this a tune and ride and report back.
 
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I decided to fit the hall sensors on my questionable Grin All Axle to see how this controller handles a screwed up set of halls.

The hall pin sensor extension cable seems to be wired with different colors and positions; I repinned it with the tiniest flat screwdriver so the halls at least lined up.

Nice to see that the white pin is a temperature sensor that happens to take a 10K NTC ( same as in both of my hub motors ).
However in the manual there seems to be no settings for when the temperature cutoff happens... i take it it's preset to something rational?

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With the 2 ft. brake cable extension, the controller finally has enough room to sit on the battery!

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As you can see, i made a JST 2.0 PH to 'white head' ( as some chinese vendors call it ) adapter since none is available for this unit.

Sadly, the amount of soldering and repinning is more intense than the VESC; i wouldn't call this more newbie friendly than the Spintend.

Ride impressions? sorry, still crazy hot out here.. may hit the tarmac very early tomorrow morning though.
 
Bad news! i could not get it going!
  1. The controller doesn't work with the newest version of the flipsky tool, i had to revert to 1.2
  2. I can't get into firmware update mode, it doesn't initiate when told to by the software.
  3. Turning to one of the 3-speed settings makes the blue light on the controller ( indicates it's on ) go off, sometimes this results in it shutting off and disconnecting from the software.
  4. There is no response or voltage increase/decrease from moving the throttle, however moving the 3 speed switch changes the throttle's voltage from 0.1v to 0.5v, but moving the throttle doesn't move the voltage at all.
  5. The brake lever works and is analog.
  6. Look at this wiring on the harness that connects to the ADC port. Frankly, this is ridiculous, there's no color coordination, it makes me wonder if my harness was wired wrong from the factory.
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I can't find any documentation on the ADC breakout cable that connects the throttle.

Also.. the programming interface likes to hide it's complexity, there's more, and it approaches VESC levels of programming complexity that involves a ton of manual referencing. What seemed like an advantage isn't so much of one!

This is basically a worse VESC so far.

I'd have to contact tech support for this, which i may follow through with later, but honestly, i'm not feeling good about this controller at all.

I can't call it without a ride test but i think the Spintend VESC is going to be the winner of this showdown!
 
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Consider a $40-100 three-mode controller. No programming or configuring and it changed my life for the better.
 
You know what, it would be good to have a thread about what the best budget controllers are.

I don't mess around in that price range, i want a lot of flexibility in how i can tune a motor. But there is a market for the significantly less picky.
 
Just read through this after a search...so the consensus is the Flipsky still needs some development? I'm a long time lurker...but I'm getting into this VESC stuff more and more. I'd love to see a VESC wiki or VESC for beginners...anything really.
 
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