The Custom Spokes Informations Thread

[NeilP]

John, could we have a picture (s) of some of any wheels that yo may have done ...or any one else for that matter with 5304 motors in 26 or smaller rims...showing the lacing patterns, and how the spokes are exiting the rim

Thanks

Neil

 

[johnrobholmes]

I have a vendor thread in the New for Sale section with some pics. http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16218&hilit=holmes+bikes


I don't like lacing up x5 hubs into standard mtb rims. Even at one cross they really strain the nipple angles.

 

[NeilP]

Thanks

 

[vodka]

+1
www.newsonsportec.com

that's where I also got them

 

[NeilP]

Hi John

I got my hands on a rim today

a J17 x 1.4 also has B12 89 DOT on it.

Do you recognise the this rim? I think it is Honda.

The spokes it has on in now are 2.9mm..not sure what that is in gauge..but 11 or 10 I am guessing.
Shaft of the nipples that fit it are 4.95 to 5.05mm and the head is 7.65mm

The spoke holes are 5.4 to 5.5mm. they are dimpled and angled, so I think I may manage a 1 cross pattern. the dimples and angle will probably make radial spoking worse than single cross.

I measured ERD to be 417mm.

I will be using a Xlyte 5 x motor. Not sure if any dishing will be required yet I have ordered the 150mm dropout motor and need to make clamping dropouts to suit, so it maybe easier to make no dishing..and make my clamps and dropout suit to centre the wheel.


Any chance you could work out a spoke length for me and let me know if you can do spokes in this diameter and size

Thanks

Neil

 

[johnrobholmes]

Can't do a spoke that thick in custom lengths yet, but when I have the 11/12 butted spokes I will.

You probably need 105mm and 103mm, best estimate. Try the ebike.ca calculator too.

 

[NeilP]

Ok john thanks

I'll look at getting a cyclo roller tool head.

I can't seem to find them in 11 gauge yet though

I have used a selection of on ine calculators in the past, but when buying / ordering spokes, I always like to give someone else the dimensions and see what they come up with to compare,
Thanks

Neil

 

[markz]

I will bring this back to the front. Been searching for awhile trying to find the TPI for each guage spoke. Of course the top dog is Hozan for $115+usd for holder and roller, then Cyclo which is about same price. I may just buy the roller for $50 and make a holder.

14G is a 2mm spoke which is reamed or rolled at 2.2mm x 56TPI

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

All modern ISO-standard spokes are threaded 56 threads per inch (TPI). A spoke nipple made for a thicker spoke may thread onto a thinner one, but then the threading will be weak. A correct spoke nipple will be nearly snug on the spoke: it will not rock. Check nipple fit beforre inserting spokes into the rim: you may not notice looseness when inserting a nipple through the rim.

https://www.bikeparts.com/BPC117332/phil-wood-spoke-cutting-threading-machine

Designed to cut 14g and 15g spokes to 10mm of 56tpi threads

http://www.philwood.com/products/tools/spokemach.php

It is designed to cut and thread 1.8 mm (15 ga.), 2.0 mm (14 ga.), 2.3 mm (13 ga.) and 2.6 mm (12 ga.) spokes and place 10 mm of 56 tpi thread on the end of each spoke. Please note: Spacers to set the machine to cut 2.3mm (13 ga) and 2.6mm (12 ga) are available, but are not offered as a standard accessory included with the machine.

edit: So that info above, was for the chart below that was posted. Its interesting that every spoke guage for bicycles is 56TPI.

 

[footbaldd]

I noticed this thread, and thought I would add my two cents. It took weeks for find a source for custom length 12g spokes for my 19" wheel build. I finally found a place called Yojimbos garage out in Chicago that will cut and roll threads on Sapim 12g leader spokes.

The first set I ordered was on the long side, and had only 10mm of thread. I was in a rush to finish the wheelsets so I ordered another slightly shorter set of spokes, but also paid a little extra for him to hand feed extra threads on the spokes. They came out to 13.5mm of threaded spoke, and they are just what I needed.

I did use the Holmes hobbies oversized nipples, but he only sales uncut spokes. I didn't want to buy the die for the philwood machine to use once, so that was the best option I found. I found him on ebay, but he also has a website out there.