The Greatest Story Ever Told


electricridefl said:
I suppose this religion thing seems pure fantasy and craziness for many people. Hmmm...I wanted to share some factual "givens" with you all. The name atom and the name adam are connected beyond your comprehension. There is a multitude of meaning to everything. They seem silly and stupid...crazy talk...

Naaaaaaaahhhhhhhh.....
 
drugs are not bad inherently, but can be used destructively when people have lost control of their life sometimes. i think our national obsession with drugs is bad. locking people up for using and selling drugs is far worse than allowing people to use them.

we allow people to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol, both are very destructive. they kill the user. not even heroin will kill you unless you take too large a dose for your basal neurons to maintain respiration. alcoholism is responsible for 39% of the traffic deaths and most bicyclists run over from behind or killed by drunks. my technician was killed by a drunk. a drunk ran over my mailbox and carried it 100' down the road before it fell off under his car in the ditch. my mailbox is a full car length off the county road. drinking beer is the stupidest thing i can imagine since it tastes like rotten goo and the only way people would want to drink it is under social pressure from their peers. that's why men alcoholics drink beer and women alcoholics drink tom collins. they are smarter than men in everything.

both cigarettes and alcohol have stronger addictions than junk or speed imo, but they make them legal so the manufacturers are able to make money from the sale of them, so why not allow other drugs to be sold for profit in the same way? that is the moral crime, but it is part of race based class structure in our country. drug addiction has always been considered a vice of the black and lower classes and the laws were made to use against them in order to maintain the power of the white ruling class, pure and simple. today the prisons are full of kids who try to get by with no job by selling pot to rich white kids. when they get criminal record, they have NO CHANCE of getting a job ever after and so their life is stuck in the same drug selling rut from which they don't escape.

it was only with the advent of large numbers of rich white kids using drugs during the 60's that it has come out in the open. there even was time when you could legally use LSD before mr reagan decided to use the power of the state to crush those he did not like.

california and most of the other states could solve some of their budget problems by just releasing those it houses in jail for petty drug crimes. it is cheaper to give the kids $400/mth to stay straight than pay $2400/mth to keep them locked up. but we have a hateful religion based approach to morality which keeps us from ever developing further as a society. imho.
 
electricridefl said:
I haven't read any responses to my posts yet. I just wanted to present my simplified scenario for this window of time of now. I start with the date of dec, 2012. So I equate this date with the bible as the date of Jesus' return in the flesh to earth. I equate this date to an alignment of our sun and our galactic center, and other simultaneous cosmic events. I accept the words of the bible and all other religions as truth. I accept the history we are taught as important for us to know, insomuchas how many it is known to. I accept the fact that we humans are not smart at all, that we are not the root cause of anything--that we are but puppets manipulated by a much greater thing that we are ignorant to. I accept that everything is a fractal of the same thing. That there is a metaphor for all things. So anyhow, dec, 2012 subtract 42 months for the tribulation, and arrive at this time of now. So when this tribulation starts, it will be accompanied with major calamities of nature, particularly earthquakes. So when one accepts the bible, then one accepts the book of revelation. There is no doubt in my mind as to the validity of biblical prophecy actually occuring. I'm sure there are many who agree with me on this. Certainly throughout history many have proclaimed that the end is near. And certainly each and everytime the end never came. So is this time of now any different? To me it is. that is to say that all that I see and hear now of every conceivable genre points to this date as the date, the sole date. So here we are within this 42nd month. Soon to be 41 months. Now certainly no one is to know the exact time for anything. So now let me add in this most likely time for earthquake scenario of July 21, 2009. I'll extend my window through then. If nothing happens, then I'll look at life , more precisely, the time of my life, comepletely anew and with fresh perspective. But for now I choose to accept the whole of what I am presented with--to see the path ahead , that is to see as the truth, to see as the good, to see as the reason, to just be aware as to this current intersection of time and space, this intersection of conscious and subconscious, this cross, this collision, this conclusion, this place where beginning meets end, this completion of the circle, that is, two circles of two sides of the figure eight, where religion and science meet, collide, come together at this cross of this duality of the infinity symbol that is the figure eight racetrack. Where one great era is concluded, giving birth to a much greater era that is the natural and pre-determined course of events that encompasses the term of evolution within a much bigger picture within successive quantum levels of expansive dimensions. Here is a simple example to illustrate this concept of quantum dimensions: See the atom, see the electrons around it. See its mass. See the vast difference of time relative to the atom, and to us. See our solar system as an atom. See the earth as an electron. Now see where you are relative to the electron of earth. Now see the atoms that make up your body. Put the world we know as residing on but a single electron of but a single atom of the billions which make up just one of your toenails. Now see your conscious self as the god of an infinite number of universes that make up the atoms of your physical body--each electron containing a history of civilizations, of populations, of religions, of famine, of joy, of celebration, of billions upon billions of individuals' lifetimes lived, with loves, wars, where time passes on the world of the electron as billions of years wwhile time passes relative to your conscious as a single year. Where you alone are their God. The joy you feel is shared by them . The love you give is borne out by their lives. They cannot know you. They worship you. They put their full faith in you. You are their god. You are in all space at all time. Do you know them? Do they know you? Do you harbor a dirty little secret that you think only you know? Do you think that you are separate from the other? Do you think that you are right and the other is wrong? Suppose one man is great and wealthy and 100 others are in poverty or torture? Does one have anything to do with the other? Suppose that we are are blind to the higher, the truer reality--that in the next bigger picture we are all but equal pieces of the whole, a single whole, a wholely one , or holy one. We are but cells within a body. Now what would you want your individual cells within your body to be doing? Would you want them to work for you? Would you want them to fight each other? Control each other? Should each of your cells look out for itself primarily? Is that best for the greater good? Your good? Would not the most preffered direction of life of your individual cells be for them to love each other? That is, to love the other cell more than the cell itself? So that if one cell were in danger, then automatically the nearest neighboring cell would eagerly and joyously and automatically sacrifice its life to save the other? Then your body would be one big happy family of love. Sickness and disease simply could not exist. What a shame it is then that your billions of electrons do not know you and you do not know them. You are their god. You cannot communicate logically with them. But you can influence and command them directly through feeling, through emotion. When you feel distraught, they live it, they bear it, they go to war with themselves until they blow themselves up. It is the same for us relative to this god we are taught about in church. Now suppose this illustration really is true. Now suppose you, as god of your body wanted to send a direct message to the people of the universes of your atoms. What message would you want to send them? Would not this message be the exact same message that Jesus brought to us? It certainly makes perfect sense to me this way.
Anyhow, back to 2012, errr, 2013-42months=now. The earthquake guy...look him up...Berkland.com...new moon, the pull of the moon on the earth...predicts earquake in LA on July 21...search for 2008 God's final witness...check out mayan calendar...go watch old star trek...listen to diana ross and pretend she is god singing to you...terrance mckenna timeline zero...the bible...babaji...r.e.m....led zeppelin...u2...blues clues...joe dirt...niburu or nibiru...see that thing coming towards us? How about what is going on with mars? I'm sure if you search for it you can find it. It says mars will be coming very close to the earth shortly...closer than it will be in 50,000 years or something...so that mars will be the size of the moon in our sky. What causes earthquakes? How about extreme gravitational forces? That makes logical sense, right?
I suppose this religion thing seems pure fantasy and craziness for many people. Hmmm...I wanted to share some factual "givens" with you all. The name atom and the name adam are connected beyond your comprehension. There is a multitude of meaning to everything. They seem silly and stupid...crazy talk...certainly the basis of the best comedy. emotion is actually energy in motion...the sound of god..."aahh"...this is no insignificant thing.AMEN means all must evolve now...it used to be pronounced allmen...now most say A men. This does not even make sense! Do you see neil bohls, the quantum physicist? He came to the conclusion that quantum physics contained the ashkashtic(sic) record, and was laughed out of physics...
Can you envision giving up on attainig any material or worldly thing for yourself? Can you envision putting yourself last? Can you conceive of living life devoid of desire for self, only to serve the other? To no longer know what worry is? To no longer wonder who or what to believe? To forget about debts? To no longer posses the ability or nature to attach blame to another? To not be absolutely thankful for everything? Even when that everything includes no more job, no more income, no more family, no more home, no more possession of any material thing, no knowledge or concern of how or when one will eat next, or where one will sleep this night? Could you conceiveof your life with but the single concern of serving the other, of helping to benefit the greater good always and only? And living with the knowledge that any and all that you need will always be provided for you, without you ever having to think about how you will get it or what you will have to do? This kinda sounds like how Jesus lived...of course this is not how we are broughtup to live our lives in this world, right? I mean a lot of stuff the bible says to do contradictsm what our common sense tells us...I never planned to give up all material possessions. The last thing I would want is to be homeless. Of course I wanted to make money. That's what we all want...I always told myself that I could follow god and pursue money at the same time...enough about me...
How about some more comedy...there is but one constant in the physical universe...change...why do we still have the penny? It makes for a bunch of change ...change for a dollar...how come everything is not rounded off to nice even dollar amounts so we don't have to deal with all this loose change? Because if we didn't have any change, then we wouldn't have any cents. Making change means making sense. The spirit communicates with our ego via the metaphor. What is a meta for? When we are a couple of years old, we learn how to tell time. But what do we tell it? We say, time will tell...what does it tell us? We exclaim, "oh my god!" when we see something that amazes us. We do not think of what we say...we may not even believe in god...but we still say it...we say Jesus Christ! when we get aggravated or frustrated...did we plan to say that? did we do a bad thing? How about someone put these words in our mouth for us...like the other half of our soul..the one in the timeless dimension...to tell ourself a hint to ourself! Its the thought that counts...not in this lifetime...what is the truth? ...You can't handle the truth! Its all good? Why do we play with ourself? Because we are sending a message to ourself metaphorically? Because we need to get in touch with ourself in another way? We do not say things just because they are logical. Most of the time they make no logical sense at all. Of course they sound good. They make for a good fantasy. They may be especially funny for no explainable reason...they are just funny...we laugh...we laugh together...we share a moment..a feeling...a feeling of goodness...the joke of the metaphor...do we laugh because we know it is ridiculous? No! We need not think in order to laugh. Laughter is the best medicine. Laughter is good. God is good. God created everything. Nothing would exist without God. God is truth. there is no good without god. There is no happy without god. There is no truth without god. The truth is what you make it. To see the good of something is to know the truth of it. The truth will set you free. Jesus is truth. Jesus is the way. Truth is not what you think. Truth is the way you think. Is cancer a bad thing? Obviously this cannot be the truth. Is your spouse cheating on you? The answer to the question is in the question itself.
God is truth. God is love. Love does not blame. Love does not judge as wrong or bad. We love to give excuses to justify our action-in the event of being accused by another...we defend...we rationalize...we use reason any way we can to deflect judgement. We even do this with ourself. We find a good reason to justify our action. We want to be seen as right, as sensible, to look good in the eyes of the other...we rely on logic for our ultimate defense. We make promises we can't or don't care about keeping.
Now...what are you thinking as you read this stuff? You don't have to answer to me. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I am not implying that that what I say is the truth and if you don't beleive it then you are wrong. Do you feel that I am obviously wrong or brain damaged or do you feel threatened and feel driven to respond in a negative way or to make fun of, or to quickly prove your superiority over. One could say I am wrong or bad for proclaiming some doom related thing. Or perhaps you are enjoying these words in a light-hearted way. Perhaps it is very funny! Or maybe it got you thinking and re-evaluating things. I'm just saying that my whole way of thinking changed before I was able to think about this stuff. The nature of thought is one step at a time. First one truth, and then the next logic is built on the foundation of the logic of all previous truths. If one thing can not be accepted as truth, then thought cannot progress further and deeper. Suppose someone says they were abducted by aliens. We need to process this with our brain as truth, fiction, or maybe. We seek hard evidence for proof. We may take note of their level of passion when professing their claim. We may automatically dismiss the claim as absolute truth first, and then stick to that until or unless the evidence becomes overwhelming or accepted by the majority. Perhaps we are concerned how others will judge us should we believe a crazy story with no hard evidence. I changed my thinking towards love, towards innocence, towards trust, mind of a child, to accept as innocent and pure and loving. To put myself in the other's place. To see them as I would expect to be seen. You know when you have just experienced some incredible thing, you want to run out and tell the world!....but then noone beleives you! Except the innocent child. First I chose to extend this trust , of the benefit, to the other, always first, to accept as truth until proven wrong, innocent as a child, so gullible, yet brimming with confidence of character of my choice based upon a different code than logic and skepticism. And perhaps at the same time, I could see clearly to the truth as blame and judgement were directed at me. Before long with this conscious practice of love, my thinking became this way. That is, my conscious direction of love towards the other grew with practice so that it encompassed the way I treated every thougght that popped into my head. This was no simple task. Nor could I have acomplished it without a biological catalyst.
Is what I say the truth? I am in my own little world. I'm just here to share. .Some can do controllers. I do fairy tales. Certainly there is no hard evidence to prove my statements. that's what makes them fun. How about some proof to disprove my statements. I remember back when I was younger. I was going to middle school I think. And here was science. And then there was religion...which many told me was pure mysticism and fantasy. At that time I thought to myself....well surely in this day and age of science, this religious stuff will be proved wrong...It seemed kind of silly....that is, when viewed scientifically, yet there were so many people going to church. Well I went to see what all the hoopla was about. Many of the concepts made sense. I watched smart people debate the topics. You know that no one could ever actually prove anything was not true of the bible. And the more some sought to disprove it and fail, this only served to act as proof. And nowadays, science is only confirming the truth of god each and every day. Then there is the act of man as it gets involved with the word of god. Thats where my heart came into play. There is the word of god on the one hand. And then there is the word of god taken out of context and twisted and told by man in an ungodly way . Yes, they could proclaim such as the word of god, but proclaimed in a wordly way was a contradiction to itself. Very, very confusing. Does it seem that I have said a lot? I have barely scratched the surface! I'm not here to prove anything or scare anyone or debate...I am simply doing the only thing there is to do....the same thing as any preacher or tele-evangelist. I am not here to win you over or convince you to follow one religion or another. I don't want your money . I am not seeking your respect. If you should find this funny or entertaining, well then that would please me very much! Suppose there is some reason for life. For my life, for your life, for each and every life. Suppose you really do have a soul --a soul to which death does not apply. So you have two choices....that when you die you are no more, and so you might as well do whatever the hell you want while you are alive on this earth, as this is the only life you'll ever have, and after that you are no more, that life on this earth is just one big accident and there is no god, only people seeking control and domination, he who dies with the most toys wins...and then there is choice 2....that there is a god and jesus and an eternal soul, and that you are the most precious and loved thing in the universe, and that the whole point of your life is to cultivate, to grow your unique love, an eternal thing, the most precious of all things, bu to build such a thing requires the choice by the thing itself, on its own, of its own free will, a thing sculpted of character and integrity, of innocence, purity, compassion, and kindness, the literal heart of matter. It is the reason for matter, so that matter may contribute somehow for the greater good, in its own way, via service to the cultivation and harvest of this most precious of crops, whose bounty and fruit are borne out of and thrive best in dire circumstance, in crisis, in hard times, the choice of faith, the choice for good, the top of the food chain, the model for all lesser evolutions of love, the evolution of your eternal soul that is the very nature of creation, the cosmos, and sustinance of God himself. And not only that, a piece of God himself, sent out to grow and mature, sort of like cloning. And God wants every last one of his children back. His kingdom come his will be done...no matter how long it takes...He loves all and each of us the same. Now he will stop at nothing to get you back to him. If it is not in this lifetime, it may be a thousand lifetimes in your future.
So now consider these two choices or possible scenarios. Now all you have to do is figure out which one is the truth. Now comes the fun part. All of us have a pschychic ability. It is your heart. It is the part of God that is in you. It is your inner voice that recognizes the truth in the moment. It is your very most fundamental feeling inside deep inside yourself. When it is happy, your days continue in joy and inspiration. When this inner flame is not fueled, one's life becomes meaningless, humdrum, lacking, and depressed. Ok, so let's find out the truth, or the correct choice and the false choice. Lets look at these two choices logically. Which one is supported by the most hard evidence? Which one seems totally unrealistic and imaginary? My logical reasoning tells me that the first choice, that we live and then die and that's it seems the most scientific. My logic picks that one as the truth. Not the pretiest picture, but certainly the most logical based on the facts as we know them at this time. So now let us test for truth in another way. It is not for me to tell you that one test is right and one is not, or that one test is better than the other. This is for you to decide for yourself, based on your senses. Ok now, read the first choice to yourself. Pretend you are an actor, and this choice is the theme of the movie. Feel the theme. Live it , feel it. Now read the second choice. Make the theme real in your mind, just like the first. You are the actor, and you will act in the movie in each theme. How did the first theme make you feel? How did the second theme make you feel? WAs not the second inspire a much better, happier, inspirational, and meaningful feeling than choice one? WAs there not a major difference of feeling associated with these two scenarios? So which choice is the right choice?
I chose number 2. So then once I made this choice, I decided to stop lollygagging around, and either put my all into it, as acting on a choice in a half-ass manner made no sense. Man! Now this is living!It may sound crazy to some, but it feels incredible! Have a nice day!
Oh, and should nothing hap[pen with the start of the tribulation in the next week, ....please just forget everything I just said, ok
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TL;DR
 
electricridefl said:
I've been desiring to write about this. There has been a lot of science pointing towards the proof of what I will say here. Believe what you want to believe. I am in the group of the first hundred monkeys. Do doctors have the answer to health? Is there a magic pill? An extract? What makes one brand of food better than another? Why is organic food more nutritious? Can saying a blessing over a meal make a difference in one's health? I'll just throw out some examples for you to ponder. The first thing that struck me after watching the movie what the bleep do we know is the effect that a consciously directed thought and associated feeling had on the atomic structure of water as veiwed with electron microscope. The water felt happy and the water felt sad.

If you liked "What the bleep" you might be interested in this perspective on that film:
http://homepage.mac.com/doubtboy/WhatTheBleep.htm

To make a long story short, I was led to the consumption of a certain rare , misunderstood, and highly controversial plant. It is that which our society has labeled as the very worst thing, complete and pure evil, purely destructive. It is the plant which our country waged war on, pledging to wipe it off the face of the planet. It is a plant for which one will be sent to prison for, fired from his job for. It is that which is blamed for the corruption of our country.
If I were to even mention the name of this plant, I would likely be booted out of this forum, and have all my posts deleted!

I hope this mystery plant isn't making you just a little bit paranoid; I seriously doubt that last sentence is true on this forum.

You sound like someone I am very close to, someone who wants to believe in certain things so badly that she refuses to look at evidence that contradicts her view of the world, and doesn't even bother to look for evidence when someone says something that supports her view of the world. She has spent many years being led around by one fraud after another. All these frauds are using her to make a buck, by making vague and useless (but very nice sounding) pronouncements about the sublime nature of reality, or the mysteries of the body, which they are privy to, and which you can get closer to if you'll just shell out a mere $19.95 for this latest book or miracle supplement or magic amulet or whatever. I love her, and for the most part this behavior is fondly regarded as relatively harmless folly. It's unfortunate that it wastes money and supports these parasite people, but is mostly harmless. It only occasionally becomes hurtful when she tries to push a 'miracle' cure on someone who's really sick and doesn't want to indulge her (and all the other snake-oil suckers in their lives) by stocking up on whatever the latest 'miracle' fad is.

Many days, it is the only thing I eat. It is not digested in my stomach. A study done by harvard medical school has defined it as the most nutritious food there is. The calcium content is astronomical! I felt better from the first moment I ate it. After 3 weeks, it cleaned out my insides. At the same time, it cleaned the fat off my outside. I had a better attitude. I wasn't tired.

A quick Google search reveals many different plants that Harvard Medical School has supposedly identified as the "most nutritious food" according to various supplement hucksters. I'm mystified why Harvard Medical School would even attempt to identify one single food which provides the vast assortment of nutrients the body needs in proper proportions... of course so many people are doing so many things at Harvard Medical School, it's pretty easy for unscrupulous hucksters to make things up without citing a specific study, and many credulous people will simply accept what they say as true. Sort of like with electron microscope examinations of water crystallization... where's the evidence? Without published data, it's simply just not science.

Hmm, apparently an appetite suppressant, since some days you're not eating anything but this mystery plant, and losing fat. I don't care what this single plant is, it's not going to supply ALL the nutrients the body needs in the proportions needed, and you're not going to keep a Bowflex look without providing adequate calories to fuel your workouts, you know. Not to mention an adequate supply of quality protein.

Edited to add -- most appetite suppressants are stimulants, which would explain why you're feeling clear-headed, energetic, and healthy. How do you feel when you stop taking it?
 
Inasmuch as ever since I was tall enough (age four or so) to reach the counter, I fed myself.
Mommy Dearest only cooked din-din.

We/I ate whole wheat bread and peanut butter and skim milk.
So, that's about fifty years of that for my diet.
Sometimes I eat restaurant meals, and then, yeah: bloated, sleepy, and not right in the gut.

OTOH, I could live my whole life on bread, peanut butter and skim, and occasionally, some cocoa powder in the milk.

I seem to be doing OK on this diet, SLE aside, which I cannot blame on diet (mystery disorder, natural).

For a treat, thought: oh, man, keep me away from the junk food palaces or they will sucker-me in, big time.

Cigarettes, too, are a mainstay in keeping a trim figgure (jk).
Why, do you all know that.... (must find a YT commercial, hold on :twisted: )

[youtube]ZAWGUJc03h8[/youtube]
perhaps the first TV ad for cigs, ever?
It was enormously popular, that brand.
Everybody smoked when I was a lad;
they all be daid, though, now.
Maybe they should have ett more p-nut butter?

Organic cigarettes...yes! :mrgreen: That's what we need!
Free range Lucky Strikes, because dancing fags are happy fags
(that being the Limey word for stick or cigarette or fag, ha hahahahah)
gay guys can say that...because....well...they be gay! ha ha, again!
 
yes i agree, drugs are abused by people without their even understanding that they are abusing them because they are actually seeking something different and expect drugs to deliver it, only to be trapped by physical addictions.

cigarettes are almost impossible for most people to kick even though it starts as simple schoolyard thrill and to be cool with your buddies. it is now clear that predisposition to alcoholism is genetic and has been identified. maybe we could test people before allowing them to drink. to protect society at large.

cigarettes and alcohol kill, so how will we get people to stop using those drugs if they wanna be part of the health care system? i don't wanna pay for them to be on oxygen for 40 years, why not just let them die? we are gonna just start letting the old folks die to reduce the 'end of life' health care costs, which is what is bankrupting medicare now. so why not just let the drunks and smokers die rather than waste more money on them?

you choose to quote christ, perhaps he never said such things, and you were sold a bill of goods by some guys who translated what king james wanted them to say from the greek. it makes it easier to rule a country if you have god on your side by fiat.

maybe you can consider the way of the buddha. learn to give up desire and other distractions to pusue inner peace. Ashoka was a changed man and changed the history of the world after following the way of the buddha. imagine if out country was like india in the 13th century, where will we be in 8 centuries. we are gonna all kill ourselves off by then, so Ashoka was a far wiser man than any today even though his power was universal, and his armies ruled all and destroyed all before he turned to the buddha. there is a way to control your uncontrollable self, through meditation and throwing off the worldy entanglements and distractions.
 
i think he does that deliberately to antagonize bluto.

he does have the politician's style of self indulgent monologue. or the 'new speak' of some cheif executive talking about the company profits.
 
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