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julesa said:
LSD is bad for you. :roll:

no it's not.... religion is bad for you, not to be confused with anything spiritual. google "the answer to life the universe and everything" and all will be revealed.
 
Well, it's the opium that's bad for you in this case. :p

And electricridefl, I intuitively understand the feeling you're experiencing, but I wouldn't confuse it with evidence of imaginary beings which whom you've been culturally exposed to and conditioned to. However, why the feeling exists, I know not.

It seems likely it exists because it's an evolutionarily selected trait that would increase a group's cohesiveness which boosted an individual's chance of survival and reproduction within that given group. Back in the day, not being a part of a group meant certain death in the wilderness, so any "group promoting" traits surely flourished which I seem to see ample evidence of today and throughout history.
 
if you are referring to my personal need for narcotics because of a severe spinal injury, i have to disagree that they have been a negative factor. i would not have survived otherwise. since you are not my licensed physician and are not familiar with my situation, i do not see where you have any right to criticize.

if you are referring to the popularly held belief that religion is the opiate of the masses, i agree. as for lsd, don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

each of us must find our own path to our place in life. i cannot possibly look into the mind of another person and tell them what they should do to find their path, beyond my advice to do what you believe is right.
 
swbluto said:
...electricridefl, I intuitively understand the feeling you're experiencing, but I wouldn't confuse it with evidence of imaginary beings which whom you've been culturally exposed to and conditioned to. However, why the feeling exists, I know not.

It seems likely it exists because it's an evolutionarily selected trait that would increase a group's cohesiveness which boosted an individual's chance of survival and reproduction within that given group. Back in the day, not being a part of a group meant certain death in the wilderness, so any "group promoting" traits surely flourished which I seem to see ample evidence of today and throughout history.

+1, Bluto nailed it in just a few short sentences. Won't waste my words expounding on those sentences, brevity is a virtue (in writing at least).
 
bobmcree said:
if you are referring to the popularly held belief that religion is the opiate of the masses, i agree. as for lsd, don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
Hi Bob,
First of all, I was making a joke. You have to admit that the original post is kind of... lysergic.

But considering how poorly controlled the dosage of any illegally manufactured substance can be, and that it can be lethal in quantities less than one milligram, I think I'll stand my my original statement.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1129381
And that's without even considering the lack of controlled studies on its effects, carcinogenic, psychological or otherwise.
-Jules
 
julesa said:
You have to admit that the original post is kind of... lysergic. -Jules

I actually LOL'd at that. No disrespect intended, Bob - that's just an awfully funny way to describe a post :lol:
 
Thanks mrgarci. :)

Bob- no disrespect intended from me either, in case that wasn't clear. Just a friendly difference of opinion. 8)
 
actually you should not knock it even if you have tried it.

i know for a fact that lsd is the most effective tool in the treatment of alcoholism. i also have friends who have MS and can document the effectiveness of cannabis in treatment of the material degradation of the spinal tissue.

this is not research done by hyped up meth addicts, but people with graduate degrees in biology but became afflicted later in life.

i think they should legalize all drugs and especially eliminate the profit from the black market and reduce the level of poverty it inflicts on the community. which has traditionally been the black community in our country. which is why the laws were developed in the 30's to fight the rising black community after they escaped the south and were able to find employment in the north. and to discriminate against the hispanic population. that's what laws are for. otherwise we would tell the guvment what to do rather than provide them with lifetime employment for cops and jailers.

who do you think will support the guvment if we rise up a demand justice? so they get the job security program, and new laws to criminalize normal behavior, like riding an electric bike at 40mph.

or making a right turn without putting your foot down, or any of the stupid laws they can use. whenever they wanna. ranted out. and he wasn't trippin, because who can talk, then?
 
But considering how poorly controlled the dosage of any illegally manufactured substance can be, and that it can be lethal in quantities less than one milligram, I think I'll stand my my original statement.

I've never heard of an LSD overdose, plenty of LSD freakouts, but no overdoses.
 
mud2005 said:
I've never heard of an LSD overdose, plenty of LSD freakouts, but no overdoses.

I think a freakout counts as an overdose. If you eat a handful of caffeine pills and you start twitching and your heart starts racing, that counts as an overdose too, though it is unlikely to be fatal unless you have a weak heart.

The link I posted earlier described eight potentially lethal overdoses: hyperthermia, mild internal bleeding, adrenal hyperactivity, and finally respiratory arrest. It's certainly not harmless; by any measure it's very powerful stuff.
 
Back to the original post:

What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?

Make me one with everything.
 
gogo said:
Back to the original post:

What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?

Make me one with everything.

So the hot dog vendor says, "That'll be two bucks."

The Buddhist hands him a five, and the hot dog vendor gives him the deluxe, and asks the next customer what he wants. The Buddhist says, "What about the change?"

The vendor replies, "Change must come from within."
 
A friend of mine knows a guy who accidentally got dosed with 100 hits of LSD and now thinks he is a glass of orange juice. He attacked an orderly at the mental institution when she brought him orange slices with his breakfast. He sleeps standing up because he's afraid he'll spill.
He had gotten pulled over for a traffic violation and stuck a 100 hit sheet of blotter acid down his underwear, and his nervous sweating caused the drug to absorb into his skin.

True story :shock:
 
Thanks, but I think Toorbough's video takes the trophy. Link's not the only one :D
 
there is a long standing story of one case of fatal overdose from lsd, it happened in europe in the 70's when some people drank from a bottle of champagne that was actually almost pure liquid acid. estimates are they each had over a million times the effective dose of 100 micrograms. their bodies basically melted.

i know all the responses in the thread are meant to be taken a bit less seriously than in others, and i apologize if i gave the impression i was upset. i am still a bit sensitive from when don harmon tried to ruin my reputation by claiming i imagined our battery dealings in a drug induced fog. i know none of you are like that.

i was/am a deadhead. this put me in an environment where there was very easy access to very pure chemicals. virtually all the negative experiences i observed in lsd users when i was working at the medical tent at concerts were caused by adulterants like strychnine, not by lsd. i would never suggest anyone use any illegal chemical; that is an individual choice.
 
there is a hot spring community "harbin hot springs" at the north end of the Napa Valley in California wine country, where there is a very high concentration of lithium carbonate in the water. They have a massage school, pools of varying temperatures, and a group of people living there who are so mellow they make you want to strangle them. when i was driving tour buses for awhile i took some groups to camp there, and i found after a day or two of drinking the water even the most obnoxious of my passengers mellowed out. i think they should put lithium in the water supply. those of us who need it would not have to pay any more, and the rest of the people would probably be better off.
 
:lol: Now I know where to send my mother in law on vacation. I'll schedule a trip for myself too...
probably not at the same time though.
 
it is a wonderful place, up hwy 29 just out of the wine country. you can do the tasting scene then go up there for a nice veggie dinner and a soak in hot pools, a massage, or just camp out under the stars. the only problem i ever had there was skunks. i had about 40 euro tourists up there and we had just finished dinner when they invaded and they are afraid of nothing. we just retreated to the bus and let them clean up the dinner dishes for us. ;) i think the Green Tortoise still has some trips that way for the adventurous.
 
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