torque simulation S06P Controller and throttle

[crumly]

Hello,

for some controller from bmsbattery with "torque simulation", for example:

http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/545-s06-250w-imitation-torque-square-wave-controller.html or
http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/546-s06-250w-imitation-torque-square-wave-controller.html

combined with panel KT- LCD http://www.bmsbattery.com/controller/548-s-led770-e-bike-led-meter.html

the torque simulation does not work, if the controller is driven by throttle.

The torque simulation is active, if the controller is driven by PAS [For example: Assist 1 = (max.) 2A, Assist 2 = 3A, Assist 3 = 7A, Assisst 4 = 11A, Assist 5 = 14A].

But the torque simulation it is not active, if the controller is driven by throttle.

With throttle, you get always the max. current. [Assist 1 = 14A, Assist 2 = 14A, Assist 3 = 14A, Assisst 4 = 14A, Assist 5 = 14A]

Is there a possibility to get different torque levels, if the controller is controlled only by throttle? Or does i make a mistake?

Thank you.

 

[mlt34]

I think the point of this controller is that it's meant to work like the better quality torque sensors but without the extra high cost of those systems. So it would make sense that it isn't going to work with throttle, since the throttle is a linear hall effect system. Instead, it's trying to give you better power control while using pedal assist.

 

[docnjoj]

Sounds right to me. I have the S12S but the instructions are the same. You can't get the torque simulation to vary unless you use the Pedal Sensor and the other PAS stuff. Also in the S06P is square wave and can run sensorless?
otherDoc

 

[d8veh]

Torque simulation = current control. It only works with the PAS. Why would you want it with the throttle? You can just open the throttle less if you want less power!

 

[crumly]

Hello,

does anyone know, how to make a torque simulation controller like So6P or So9P etc. from bmsbattery to work with throttle, so that you get this torque simulation (current) steps?

Now, the controller has the torque simulation steps only then driven by PAS, but not then driven by throttle. By throttle, you have always the full power.

 

[amberwolf]

Is the PAS a pulse counter or an analog voltage input at the controller?

If the latter, try hooking your throttle to that.

 

[crumly]

Hello,

PAS is pulse counter type.

Controller form here: https://bmsbattery.com/48-torque-simulation