Turnigy nano-tech A-SPEC LiCo

[myzter]

Anybody compared these A-SPEC Nano-tech's to regular Nano-tech battery packs ??
I know they are brand new items at HK
maybe overkill for an ebike..

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...tech_A_SPEC_5000mah_6S_65_130C_Lipo_Pack.html

5000mah 6S 65~130C Lipo Pack for $123.05

 

[cal3thousand]

Seeing as how the 20C packs are plenty for the current levels of an ebike, especially considering the Ah capacities that we carry, these are DEFINITELY overkill.

 

[mvly]

If you watch the Youtube video, they claim to be slightly lighter. Also they claim slight lower Internal Resistance so less voltage sag. And they claim slightly more life cycle.

But again, these are all claims. No one really have tested these.

But I one thing I know from experience, the nanotech does give less voltage sag compared to regular turnigy. But it's up to you to decide if that voltage sag is worth it.

 

[dogman dan]

Overkill for a commuter for sure. Overkill for my dirt bike. But no such thing as overkill for a racing bike, or if you are just rich. If you rich, it's all about the badge eh?

 

[Ratking]

If I had a budget I had to take into account, then a bigger pack with cheaper cells is my way to go. I carry a 12s 4p pack and that gives me 20Ah. I have not tested the voltage sag at 400A as they theoretically should handle, but at my modest 160A they are ok. Just a few volts of drop. I can handle that. But if I had the money, I would have bought the best
I think most of the guys here will be happy with a few bricks of 20c packs instead of the more expensive nano-tech, but I love builds that actually NEED a big nano-tech pack to feed the motors. Cant get enough of that 8)

 

[liveforphysics]

It's a shame they are so pricey, I would love to build a whole new 5kwhr pack for my new race bike build out of them, but at around $1/wh I don't want to drop that much coin.

I will get a few for my RC stuff and testing though.

 

[grindz145]

wow those are awesome and pricey. My 30C 10S sticks were about the same price. Lighter faster and better are always good things though thanks for posting

 

[John in CR]

Nice. I need that. The 10V of sag I get hitting my 20ah of 20C with 425A peak current really sucks. Switching to those would be a free 10% increase in power just by swapping to a new pack of the same voltage.

 

[Ratking]

Nice. I need that. The 10V of sag I get hitting my 20ah of 20C with 425A peak current really sucks. Switching to those would be a free 10% increase in power just by swapping to a new pack of the same voltage.

I assume that you use the hardcase packs? So they actually sag that much? I know that is a heavy load for them, but 10v is a lot.
I guess that depends on how many volts the pack is btw.
Have you been able to measure if some of the voltage drop is from the wire from the battery to the controller?

 

[fabiograssi]

Delicious piece of cake!

 

[docnjoj]

Overkill for a commuter for sure. Overkill for my dirt bike. But no such thing as overkill for a racing bike, or if you are just rich. If you rich, it's all about the badge eh?

Ah wee Bobby Burns from my old HS days. "The rank is but the guinea's stamp, the gowd is the measure!" Good thoughts dogman!
otherDoc

 

[jana]

New 2cell 6600mah today:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__24309__Turnigy_nano_tech_A_SPEC_6600mah_2S_65_130C_Lipo_Boat_Pack.html

6600mah 2S 65~130C
6,6Ah*7,4V = 48,8Wh
48,8Wh / 0,274kg = 178 Wh/kg

5000mah 6S 65~130C
5,0Ah*22,2V = 111 Wh
111Wh / 0,840kg = 132 Wh/ kg

Is this for real? Must be a new record?

 

[jonescg]

It would be nice if they came up with an individual cell format. Great gravimetric density and awesome volumetric density too.

 

[myzter]

It would be nice if they came up with an individual cell format.

1S2P ?

Turnigy nano-tech A-SPEC 6000mah 1S 65~130C Hardcase Lipo Pack

Spec.
Capacity: 6000mAh
Voltage: 1S2P / 1 Cell / 3.7V
Discharge: 65C Constant / 130C Burst
Weight: 139g (including wire, plug & case)
Dimensions: 93x47x18mm

$23.78
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__24307__Turnigy_nano_tech_A_SPEC_6000mah_1S_65_130C_Hardcase_Lipo_Pack.html

 

[jonescg]

I was hoping not to have to unsolder them, but that's not a bad deal. Hang on, that means a pair of 3 Ah cells... No thanks.

However, if they sold unblemished individual 6 Ah cells, I would be all over them like a Frenchman on your mum.

 

[auraslip]

Is this "the good ole' nano-tech" we fell in love with? Not the mixed bag of nano-tech that has been around recently? Maybe they wised up and started binning the nano-tech cells. Or maybe it's a new formulation.

 

[myzter]

5s2p 8000mah nano-tech battery weighs less than a 5s4p 4000mah a-spec

if they sold unblemished individual 6 Ah cells, I would be all over them like a Frenchman on your mum

thats the problem with a unblemished world aussie..
things are loved and people are used

 

[Holocene]

Hobbyking now lists nano-tech A-SPEC in 12S and 7S packs:

Turnigy nano-tech A-SPEC 5000mah 12S 65~130C Lipo Pack (AUS Warehouse)
12S 5 Ahr $253.58 after the 6% 'wait-a-minute' discount:

Capacity: 5000mAh
Voltage: 12S1P / 12 Cell / 44.4V
Discharge: 65C Constant / 130C Burst
Weight: 1717g (including wire, plug & case)
Dimensions: 300x52x56mm
Balance Plug: JST-XH
Discharge Plug: 5.5mm Bullet Connector
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=36702

Or, connect two of these 7S packs in series to make a 14S battery, which is the highest voltage supported by high-power commercial RC chargers:

Turnigy nano-tech A-SPEC 5000mah 7S 65~130C Lipo Pack (USA Warehouse)
7S 5Ahr are $156.51 each before the 6% 'wait-a-minute' discount:

Capacity: 5000mAh
Voltage: 7S1P / 7 Cell / 25.9V
Discharge: 65C Constant / 130C Burst
Weight: 978g (including wire, plug & case)
Dimensions: 154x49x63mm
Balance Plug: JST-XH
Discharge Plug: 5.5mm Bullet connector
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...0mah_7S_65_130C_Lipo_Pack_USA_Warehouse_.html

 

[Hillhater]

We need to see some discharge graphs for these at 65C and 100+C ..(300 and 500+A ) .. to see exactly what the V sag is.

LUKE .. were you going to test some last year ?

 

[jonescg]

Hey guys,

I have ordered one of these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=35585

I plan on doing some tests, and them asking whoever I can to get them to make them do a batch of individual cells.

This is over 175 Wh/kg and 375 Wh/litre. 65C constant eh? We'll see about that.

I desperately want them to make these in individual cell format so I can solder my high-power battery packs together using them. But alas, I keep asking them to do it but they refuse. So bizarre given they actually require LESS handling than soldred up blocks...

 

[Arlo1]

Hey guys,

I have ordered one of these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=35585

I plan on doing some tests, and them asking whoever I can to get them to make them do a batch of individual cells.

This is over 175 Wh/kg and 375 Wh/litre. 65C constant eh? We'll see about that.

I desperately want them to make these in individual cell format so I can solder my high-power battery packs together using them. But alas, I keep asking them to do it but they refuse. So bizarre given they actually require LESS handling than soldred up blocks...

858 amps at 130c WOW But the truth is the wires will melt off. I wished they would put some more realistic wires on the packs with 30c rating or higher!
I melted the solder off one main wire when I was testing for cranking my hi compression 440 cid road runner

 

[jonescg]

First thing I'll do is unsolder them and then re-solder them to a decent lump of copper for handling these currents. I want to know if the cell is up to it, not the piss-weak connectors.

Most importantly, if it can do at least 10C constant and 20C peak without sagging appreciably, it's exactly what I want for my race bike (despite the high cost ) 175 Wh/kg is not to be sneezed at!

 

[neptronix]

We need to see some discharge graphs for these at 65C and 100+C ..(300 and 500+A ) .. to see exactly what the V sag is.

LUKE .. were you going to test some last year ?

For those that love graphs, it means a straighter, longer curve. For pilots it spells stronger throttle punches and unreal straight-up performance.

Here ya go

 

[Hillhater]

Err ?... how about a DISCHARGE curve, Nep' ?...

It would have to be better than this 80C test on a Haiyin 6Ahr pouch..

 

[neptronix]

Ah, i see nobody gets the joke. OK, carry on :lol: