scianiac
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The De Minimus was only revoked for China (and Hong Kong) so under $800 it there would be no customs charges.
[USA] Will Tariffs come about and lead to higher priced ebike parts
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Maybe James meant tariff free, not tax free? The only legal way of not paying tax is if you are a business with a tax id, reselling the item.
Yes. We have a few mechanisms, and the only time they didn't work was with FDR during world war 2 ( somehow he got 3 terms and also did some wild stuff ), but that's an exceptional situation. Conversely, some would also say the George Bush era ( both of them ) also qualifies. So, this is a pretty good historical reference on how extreme politics can get here.
Before we got Orange Man, the president in the other political party was also hiking up tariffs like crazy though. I'm leary that there would be much difference in policy on this topic.
The USA has the level of debt it had during world war 2.
What i think they're doing with Tarriffs is partially a geopolitical power move and partially a way to fill the coffers.
My call would be that tariffs are here to stay for a while.
raylo32
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I contacted Grin and asked about the "current tare" setting and they told me that the charger default takes the charge rate to zero every 30 minutes for some sort of calibration. Unfortunately for this new battery BMS that just makes it invisible and the charge will not restart automatically. So either you have to keep force starting it every 30 minutes or set current tare to zero so it stops doing this. Grin said it is not a problem to do so.
raylo32
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The problem with this is that any "filling of the coffers" mostly or totally comes from consumers, not from those "evil" foreigners. IOW they are just a domestic tax by another name.... and taxes that the orange one seems to believe he has total power to impose or drop at will. That is the main problem. If the overall govt made a serious and considered policy that explained why and how much these should be and if they were enacted via proper channels that would be a whole other thing. They would still be a tax on consumers, but they'd have to explain and defend them and gain consensus. And then implement them in a stable way.... IOW no daily jerk around.
Yeah. They like to use creative justifications. But what can we do other than wait out the chaos & in the meantime, be selective about where we buy things from?
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Low value goods have no tariffs (up to 150EUR). So now, together with Aliexpress, there's Temu and Shein selling lots of cheap stuff.
Thanks for reporting in, you're in Poland, yeah?
Has the Temu and Shein stuff dropped in price, or is it up?
Let's be careful not to apply false equivalency where it does not apply.
Not sure what you mean.
Team blue put all sorts of huge tariffs on 'green' goods from China, both acutely on their way out, and at the same rate as their red counterparts over the least 2 decades. They even dinged Canada with higher Wood tarriffs during a wood shortage.
We could argue about the degree to which they like using tarriffs, but the fact is that they both use that tool. Neither have a principled stance that prevents them from using that tool again in the future.
Regardless of team, something will be done to shore up the massive government debt, and you and me, the subject, will pay the cost. A government has a few tools in it's toolbox to correct the balance sheet; primarily it's printing money, increasing taxes, or reducing spend. Nobody should be surprised that at least a few of these tools are being pulled out.
The primary difference is how the two teams market to the public which tools they've chosen and why they're doing it.
Team blue put all sorts of huge tariffs on 'green' goods from China, both acutely on their way out, and at the same rate as their red counterparts over the least 2 decades. They even dinged Canada with higher Wood tarriffs during a wood shortage.
We could argue about the degree to which they like using tarriffs, but the fact is that they both use that tool. Neither have a principled stance that prevents them from using that tool again in the future.
Regardless of team, something will be done to shore up the massive government debt, and you and me, the subject, will pay the cost. A government has a few tools in it's toolbox to correct the balance sheet; primarily it's printing money, increasing taxes, or reducing spend. Nobody should be surprised that at least a few of these tools are being pulled out.
The primary difference is how the two teams market to the public which tools they've chosen and why they're doing it.
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ZeroEm
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Tariffs has always been a Democratic Party thing for years. Republican's (which are no more) are for free trade. Have been trying to read about the fall out of the tariffs but have nothing to report that is of my understanding. Sorta confusing at the moment.
No idea, but they sell mostly clothes, cheap jewellery, simple tools and decorations... i dont think they need to go lower with prices, they're the cheapest already. Even with 100% tariff, they'd still be. Maybe we'll see some more advanced products price-optimized to go below the tariff radar. I don't know, a bike that you can buy in 10 separate orders and put together yourself?
offGridDownUnder
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I'll mention the abbreviation T.A.C.O.
Please consider that the amendment that set a 2 term limit for the office of the Presidency was passed after in response to him being democratically elected to a third term: US Presidential term limit
This is not a 'somehow'.
offGridDownUnder
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I heard an analysis of the current US-China 'trade deal'. 25% of the tariff existed from Trump's first term already, and now another 30% has been added. China is still only charging 10%.
In return, China gets semiconductors and the US gets rare-earth magnets.
And the rare-earth terms are listed in the deal as being up for review in 6 months.
So, get your stuff while you can.
T.A.C.O. <= this appears to be a valid basis for evaluating the tariffs, their likely lifespan, and their effect on getting ebike parts from China.
And so does this: Trump can't stand anything he doesn't have his name on, and the fact that it's worse isn't going to stop him from screwing things up. He just psychologically can't handle it. Evidence to date supports this - I don't see any improvements.
In return, China gets semiconductors and the US gets rare-earth magnets.
And the rare-earth terms are listed in the deal as being up for review in 6 months.
So, get your stuff while you can.
T.A.C.O. <= this appears to be a valid basis for evaluating the tariffs, their likely lifespan, and their effect on getting ebike parts from China.
And so does this: Trump can't stand anything he doesn't have his name on, and the fact that it's worse isn't going to stop him from screwing things up. He just psychologically can't handle it. Evidence to date supports this - I don't see any improvements.
Wow, we were on the honor system before that? The more you know!
ZeroEm
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Get your stuff from Iran as quick as possible, they back out of trade talks. Imagine that they will have 148% tariffs put on them!
The senate and house pays close attention to tariffs going on and off. going on is a sell and coming off is a buy signal.
The senate and house pays close attention to tariffs going on and off. going on is a sell and coming off is a buy signal.
Chalo
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Aw mang, my fenugreek leaves and pomegranate molasses! I'ma have to get by on poke salad and sorghum syrup.
ZeroEm
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Have not heard of Poke Salad in 35 years. Back in my Oklahoma days!
offGridDownUnder
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We are always on the honor system.
You can find it's limits by watching the failures.
raylo32
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What is poke salad? I assume not raw fish. BTW, didn't you guys have some serious flooding down there in SA?
DingusMcGee
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A lot has been said since my post yesterday. I have paid the invoice for 2 fardriver controllers and shipping from Dun Electricbike Store of Malaysia to USA. This cost so far, for reaching me at USA, has been $1. cheaper than what the item would simply cost from Ali-Ex. In other words I have sort of saved what Ali-Ex would charge for shipping plus $1.00.
If what has been posted about the de minimus at customs holds when it arrives, there will be no additional fees.
but, “the highway is for gamblers, Better use your sense……”
At least for me my Dun ebike store purchases have been quality and saving $$, so I will pass this info ….
To order — Contact James Chaing via dun-electric@hotmail.com. I ask him for cost of parts to USA. Parts identified by make, model, number and/or pictures. He has done some sourcing of parts by pictures only for me.
The Dun store can be found on Ali-EX. From that site you can see what he has “in stock”. BUT to get a deal you buy from the hotmail address.
If what has been posted about the de minimus at customs holds when it arrives, there will be no additional fees.
but, “the highway is for gamblers, Better use your sense……”
At least for me my Dun ebike store purchases have been quality and saving $$, so I will pass this info ….
To order — Contact James Chaing via dun-electric@hotmail.com. I ask him for cost of parts to USA. Parts identified by make, model, number and/or pictures. He has done some sourcing of parts by pictures only for me.
The Dun store can be found on Ali-EX. From that site you can see what he has “in stock”. BUT to get a deal you buy from the hotmail address.
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docw009
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At the moment. the KEKK capacitor spot welder I liked on aliexpress will not ship to the USA, but is selling on amazon for the same price ($92 delivered). Not buying it, but that was interesting.
I did need a pair of handlebar bags. They are $20 each on amazon, but I can still get two for $18 on aliexpress. Order went in. Have two June orders in now. Will see if customs is going to bother with them.
I did need a pair of handlebar bags. They are $20 each on amazon, but I can still get two for $18 on aliexpress. Order went in. Have two June orders in now. Will see if customs is going to bother with them.