What's happened to the US patent system?????
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liveforphysics
100 TW
Whats amazing, is this farce patent attempt that just spews BS, and contains nothing within a million miles of being remotely novel, is actually a comparatively legit concept compared to the patent system.
liveforphysics
100 TW
Fortunately, the moment a society is shaken/stressed, even just a smidge, all the rules built on illusion crumble to dust, and people do what needs to be done, lawyers become recognized as the dead-waste-parasites on the system that they are, and all enforcement of any patent type law is simply ignored and life moves forward, with no consideration to the absurdity that some slips of paper in a filing cabnet somewhere can prevent you from making the arrangement of simple machines that you like.
There have only been a very small handful of things that were novel in the last 100 years.
Semi-conductors. I would have allowed that concept to be patented for perhaps 2 years, so the company that put the work in could be positioned to take the strong-hold in the market if they were able.
Lasers Novel and useful. I would have given that 2 years.
Stir welding Novel and useful. I would have given that 2 years.
GPS satellite grid Perhaps not novel, but implementation of using space in pretty novel, and useful. I would have given that 2 years.
Stimulating phosphors with electrons to emit light Novel, useful, 2 years.
A small handful of medical concepts happened that were novel and useful, nothing that should have got a full 2 years though.
There must be dozens more things that were novel in the last 100 years, but I can't seem to think of anything else right now.
Anyone have something else novel that should have deserved a patent? And no, arrangements of simple machines are not novel.
There have only been a very small handful of things that were novel in the last 100 years.
Semi-conductors. I would have allowed that concept to be patented for perhaps 2 years, so the company that put the work in could be positioned to take the strong-hold in the market if they were able.
Lasers Novel and useful. I would have given that 2 years.
Stir welding Novel and useful. I would have given that 2 years.
GPS satellite grid Perhaps not novel, but implementation of using space in pretty novel, and useful. I would have given that 2 years.
Stimulating phosphors with electrons to emit light Novel, useful, 2 years.
A small handful of medical concepts happened that were novel and useful, nothing that should have got a full 2 years though.
There must be dozens more things that were novel in the last 100 years, but I can't seem to think of anything else right now.
Anyone have something else novel that should have deserved a patent? And no, arrangements of simple machines are not novel.
zombiess
10 MW
I've seen a patent by one guy who took an example from a IC spec sheet, built it and the patent was issued, total joke.
STS Turbo, patented placing a turbo in the back of a car even though it's been done many times, granted.
Putting a speaker into a sealed enclosure was submitted and granted even though it's been done for years.
Most patents are a complete joke. The only people to have to worry about getting in trouble by infringing on them are companies who make millions. Patent lawsuits are extraordinarily expensive and time consuming. The system is very broken.
Look at the cry babies at Crapple and Microshit trying to sue Google over Android. I'm glad Steve Jobs is dead, what a douche bag he was. Not that Google is any better. Companies are trying to use patents to stifle innovation instead of progress it.
STS Turbo, patented placing a turbo in the back of a car even though it's been done many times, granted.
Putting a speaker into a sealed enclosure was submitted and granted even though it's been done for years.
Most patents are a complete joke. The only people to have to worry about getting in trouble by infringing on them are companies who make millions. Patent lawsuits are extraordinarily expensive and time consuming. The system is very broken.
Look at the cry babies at Crapple and Microshit trying to sue Google over Android. I'm glad Steve Jobs is dead, what a douche bag he was. Not that Google is any better. Companies are trying to use patents to stifle innovation instead of progress it.
dennyt
10 W
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack
spinningmagnets
100 TW
Two of the things that (in my mind) created a system where there were a tremendous amount opf innovations, was a good patent system and anti-monopoly laws (assuming honest judges). The average guy could invent something, and could easily find backers, while still being protected from large companies stealing it (or getting away with some incredibly small variation)
If large corporations became so large and controlling (donations to crooked politicians), they can sqeeze the population at their whim. When ever a large company became oppressive, the idea was that any guy could start his own small company, in order to provide competition. large corporations now get patents extended almost indefinitely, and lawyers are used to oppress legitimate competition.
If large corporations became so large and controlling (donations to crooked politicians), they can sqeeze the population at their whim. When ever a large company became oppressive, the idea was that any guy could start his own small company, in order to provide competition. large corporations now get patents extended almost indefinitely, and lawyers are used to oppress legitimate competition.
John in CR
100 TW
zombiess said:
That should be made illegal, and enforceable on retroactive basis as well as result in an immediate revocation of all of their other patents.
John in CR
100 TW
spinningmagnets said:
Let's eliminate the concept of "too big to fail", and replace it with "to big to exist".
DAND214
10 MW
dennyt
10 W
Miles said:See attached 'patent' application .........
I wonder if it will be granted?
Wow, I just read through that. So it's a 28:10 singlespeed 29'er with really long chainstays and some worthless 48t idlers? The question is, did a patent lawyer take some poor sap's money, or is this a patent law student just testing the system?
Electroglide
100 mW
What is also funny, is that the patent is very specific about the configuration with the 28-tooth chain ring etc. It would be little trouble for someone to get around the patent if it made it that far because it is so specific unless they broaden it up a lot which patent lawyers are good at. It may also be difficult to argue that it was non-obvious or that there is no other prior art. The web is a wonderful place for the patent office to discover prior art. I bet there is even mentioned of similar concepts on ES which would constitute prior art.
nicobie
100 MW
John in CR said:Let's eliminate the concept of "too big to fail", and replace it with "to big to exist".
Not a bad idea!
Look at who's in the whitehouse and who gave him his campaign funding... smells like lawyers!!
Think those guys are going to allow patent reform to happen? naw.. not until America is 100% inhospitable to all business and invention. Right now they're at 90%.. :|
We need a serious revolution right now. Blood, glory, all that.
Think those guys are going to allow patent reform to happen? naw.. not until America is 100% inhospitable to all business and invention. Right now they're at 90%.. :|
We need a serious revolution right now. Blood, glory, all that.
John in CR
100 TW
nicobie said:John in CR said:Let's eliminate the concept of "too big to fail", and replace it with "to big to exist".
Not a bad idea!
I've modified it to an even better soundbite. Forget "too big to fail" and adopt simply "too big", which would apply not just to companies, but also to government, unions, and anything else where the power that comes with being too big is corrupting as well as stifling to true competition.
I've passed the concept along, so let's see if my choice of outsider picks up on it and runs.
John
