Wind and Solar vs Coal, Gasoline, Nuclear

[Hillhater]

For anyone else- the whole crash issues stem from the battery cells; you can see how in Tesla crashes the 18650s go everywhere, because there's only the fusing wires that are connected to them to secure them into the pack itself. The 4680 is a big deal, partially because they're gonna be connected to each other via a "manifold" like a head gasket instead of little wires- so you'll have pressure on top and bottom, added onto whatever cooling system they go with. That's just less shit jostling around.

None of that would be any different in an EV or a ICE.
You do know that EV motor/transmissions are cast the same way ?
It is very rare for an engine block to get broken in any accident.
If you hit something hard enough to shove a piston down your throat in an ice, the same accident in a EV would put the rotor from the main drive through your ass. Either way you are history.
So what other extra moving parts are you thinking of ?

I don't even know what you're trying to argue. Put the Foster's down for a sec and make a cohesive statement! And lay off the poor enter key, you type like a boomer.

And you think like a high school student !
You commented about less “moving parts” ..compared to what ?
The usual reference is an EV drivetrain compared to an ICE ?
But are you now twisting that to say EV battery cells become “missiles” in an accident.?
Maybe you should look a little more at how Teslas packs are assembled..
Even the Mod S 18650 packs have a lot more than just “fuse wires” holding them in the pack as you would know if you have ever seen anyone trying to remove cells from them.
And more recent Mod 3 and Y packs using 21700 cells are even more “cemented” together and enclosed in a steel case.
No one knows the detail of how the production 4680 packs will be constructed.

Keep up with the times ....we dont drink Fosters, it is “Soy Latte”.. with a Bundy chaser, these days !

 

[Hillhater]

Just came across this report on subsidies for electricity generation in the USA..
A little dated but still relevant ..

 

[Ianhill]

Will Europe turn off Russian swift access and slow its transfer of payments for oil and gas ? Germany said no go keep it for a later tactics for now they will be doing a leaflet campaign while they try to profit from the effort rather than stop it.

Sorry to be political but it shows that putins oil nipple is more addictive than a multiway drug cocktail and we got to sober up not for the enviroment is it but the ability to war countrys without worrying about them not wanting to whore out they titty to us anymore.

 

[jonescg]

Just came across this report on subsidies for electricity generation in the USA..
A little dated but still relevant ..

And how about total $ spent on energy subsidies since 1945? I reckon PV and wind have a lot of catching up to do.

 

[Hillhater]

Just came across this report on subsidies for electricity generation in the USA..
A little dated but still relevant ..

And how about total $ spent on energy subsidies since 1945? I reckon PV and wind have a lot of catching up to do.

That should be easy enough to estimate,.. (but i will leave it to you as you are the interested party )
....what is more tricky to estimate financially, ..but glaringly obvious !..is the benefits to the human societies, living standards, and extended life expectancy,..that those subsidies have enabled cheap, available, energy to provide.

 

[calab]

I never knew this before, why wind turbine blades are so hard to recycle.

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[Hillhater]

I never knew this before, why wind turbine blades are so hard to recycle.

Yes, many “Green enthuiasts” would rather ignor such details, or the fact that those turbines generally dont last very long and need “renewing” continuously.

 

[Ianhill]

Is the aviation industry any different ?

Whats the overall percentage of a windfarm thats rapped up in composite vs airliners simular game but differently funded video.

 

[CONSIDERABLE SHOUTING]

I never knew this before, why wind turbine blades are so hard to recycle.

Low Tech Magazine has a neat little article on it: obviously few people would want more windmills at smaller size (or even directly built into their home!) but it's saying quite a bit that only NOW are we even finding uses for them after their lifespan is up.

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2019/06/wooden-wind-turbines.html

 

[calab]

I'd like to know how many birds and bugs are killed by the wind farms.

 

[Hillhater]

Is the aviation industry any different ?
Whats the overall percentage of a windfarm thats rapped up in composite vs airliners simular game but differently funded video.

...Yes, aviation is very different...
Ignoring the materials used, the aviation industry has few , if any, alternatives than to use aircraft.
But windfarms are just one of several options for electricity generation...
So the issue of recycling materials from windfarms could easily be eliminated completely. !

 

[Hillhater]

Maybe a practical option for limitless energy source by a major step forward for Geothermal..
Fast , deep , well drilling , using new “non mechanical” technology .
Use Geothermal heat to produce steam to repower existing fossil generation turbines and infrastructure. ?
https://www.quaise.energy/

 

[Ianhill]

Maybe a practical option for limitless energy source by a major step forward for Geothermal..
Fast , deep , well drilling , using new “non mechanical” technology .
Use Geothermal heat to produce steam to repower existing fossil generation turbines and infrastructure. ?
https://www.quaise.energy/

I believe theres 4 new plants going in uk soon in Cornwall, theres a prefered geology for a favorable outcome and they seem to have that, Theres been one in Southampton since i was 1 i believe 1986 not sure if it supplyed the grid though.

Theres a stream edge of wales that drives deep unground and comes back up 30 miles or so away in bath where the romans made a grand structure and at the time that was the religious capital of England, im sure i heard the water takes many thousands of years to complete its natural trip.

A heat exchanger down deep and some pressure and a sealed system will turn that thousands of years into hours.

 

[Hillhater]

Geothermal is established , proven , technology .(.Iceland generates most of its power from it) , and it is in use in many countries.
But it has only been viable in locations where the Earths crust is thin enough for a hot rock source to be near the surface (<5km) which can produce steam .
The key breakthrough with Quaise Energy is a new technology that enable bore holes to be drilled much deeper than ever before (15-20km) to access very hot rocks in virtually ANY location...IE:- at existing Fossil fuel power stations,. and hence to supply supercritical steam ( 300-500 C) to the existing power turbines.
So ..a double whammy...
....a source of CONTINUOUS,CARBON FREE, ENERGY,
...that re uses existing infrastructure, generation technology and equipment, avoiding the need for large scale new investment
.....anywhere in the world !

But...If it sounds too good to be true...etc..

 

[calab]

Why not be ultra eco friendly and make your abode under dirt with walls of hay then clayed over, then you can drive your electric f150 and the electric tesla, using solar power panels of you home wearing your hemp fiber clothing and straw hat, of course cant be anything leathery because vegan is super eco friendly.

 

[Ianhill]

Why not be ultra eco friendly and make your abode under dirt with walls of hay then clayed over, then you can drive your electric f150 and the electric tesla, using solar power panels of you home wearing your hemp fiber clothing and straw hat, of course cant be anything leathery because vegan is super eco friendly.

Hate teslas and i dont fancy living in what you explain as a rat hole but if you want to blindly carry on with what come before because this is all were dumb enough to do then god bless you and us all in turn, i dont hold much hope the mass of humans just want to party, fight or just get wasted and leave the real weight of running the world to those that could be called megalomaniacs doped up on power like a hippy with lsd.

 

[calab]

Ukraine just took out their flagship so it would not surprise me if they took out their own nuclear power plant as well.

 

[Hillhater]

Ukraine just took out their flagship so it would not surprise me if they took out their own nuclear power plant as well.

Who’s flagship ? And what was it ?......
....why would they take out their own power plant ?

 

[calab]

The Ukraine sank their flagship so the Russians cant get it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukrainian-sailors-sank-their-own-flagship-to-prevent-capture-russia-2022-3?op=1

The Hetman Sagaidachny was originally intended to be used by the Soviet Border troops, but was launched in 1993 under the Ukrainian flag. The roughly 400-foot-long ship was armed with a 100-mm deck gun and two close in weapons systems.

Looks like the fire news of the nuclear plant was over done to get headlines and clicks. Can't even trust local news anymore.

Ukraine just took out their flagship so it would not surprise me if they took out their own nuclear power plant as well.

Who’s flagship ? And what was it ?......
....why would they take out their own power plant ?

 

[Ianhill]

I suppose they blew up the antonov 225 aswell stop russians using old asre useless war tech against them, deliver a giganitc vodka bottle i thought u was thick but this one shows just how much your swollowing up russian propaganja fella theres a war going on for sure.

Russia fuked up thought it was easy to take over but they cant even fuel they soldiers more than 70 miles from home let alone tanks they have a good rail network and can war well on thier own land but using a push method of supplying means they let the war lead them not where force is needed shows they learnt nothing from Afghanistan collapsing soviet union as they doing it again same stupid way and same their people are losing faith in kremlin, This is the start of russia civil war and the west is pumping money at it trying to make it real.

 

[CONSIDERABLE SHOUTING]

Looks like the fire news of the nuclear plant was over done to get headlines and clicks. Can't even trust local news anymore.

No, they were being shot at. They only stopped because the biblical levels of what the frock are you doing were realized by ground troops, and because the rest of the world saw it. You can literally watch the firefight through security camera, whole video's on Twitter.

 

[Hillhater]

Australian team claim to have developed a new Hydrogen electrolyser With a 20% efficiency improvement over the current industry standard.
The test results indicate a 40.4 kWh/kg energy consumption compared to the current 50+ kWh/kg for PEM electrolysers.
However, these are only lab test cell results, and a commercial scale trial is yet to be undertaken.
An improvement if it carries through but,,...i do not understand how they predict this improvement can reduce the price of green hydrogen from the current $8-9/kg to less than $2/kg ??

https://www.pv-magazine-australia.com/2022/03/16/australian-electrolyser-invention-enables-green-hydrogen-under-2-kg-by-mid-2020s/

 

[calab]

That is all fine and dandy but we need independent verification.

Australian team claim to have

 

[Hillhater]

Thatis why i put “claim to “. In that sentence

 

[calab]

The proof is in the pudding, if we can understand their thick Australian accent.
I am not so much a s.r.i. investor and I doubt many real investors are. Its all just a big scam anyways, its the puppet master behind the scenes pulling the strings.

Thatis why i put “claim to “. In that sentence