Your Response needed - Ebike Survey! - Win $50!

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The deal:
Fill out the survey here!: http://troyrank.com/?p=2177

The survey is 5-10 minutes, and should be kind of fun if you're at all interested in ebikes, motorbikes, EVS, Pizza, living forever, etc... :mrgreen: The progress bar is pessimistic and it goes faster than it really suggests.

As part of my graduate thesis I'm collecting data on (you guessed it) the ebike market. As a member of this forum you are undoubtedly a highly influential maven of the electric bike revolution, and I need your input!


The Perks:
In the interest of soliciting as big a response as possible I am giving away one $50 Amazon gift certificate to one lucky survey entry (who includes their email in order to be notified). I was originally going to offer a Lyen controller that I have for this perk, but my graduate adviser suggested this instead. I am making NO MONEY on this project, it is purely an ACADEMIC project. I am of course very interested to raise the tide on the ebike revolution. Note: I will only disperse this if there are more than 50 responses. That really shouldn't be that difficult, but I need some data in order to draw some meaningful conclusions and get a good grade :)


Open Source:
In the true spirit of Endless-Sphere, after the results are tabulated and analyzed, the full report data will be open sourced and posted here on ES. E-mails and any personal data will obviously not be shared..


Please give it a shot and let me know what you think. I will be eternally grateful.

Thank you! You guys are all super rad.
 
Drunkskunk said:
Sounds like fun.



Done.
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Thanks dude! My future final grade also thanks you :wink:
 
Interesting set of questions.
Hope you are going "broad" re survey group.
You'll get a diverse set of responses here On ES I think, but not mainstream exactly...
 
aroundqube said:
What to do with $50 worth of bones from Amazon !
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hahahaha, that was indeed redundant and misleading hahaha awesome.
 
One more data point completely off the curve logged. 8)

Get Amberwolf to respond, and then send him the $50.
 
dogman said:
One more data point completely off the curve logged. 8)

Get Amberwolf to respond, and then send him the $50.
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Hah, the guys that actually use ebikes are the most important as far as I'm concerned.

I'm choosing a winner completely at random, using a random number generator, and a complete list of the emails that I received. I will not be playing favorites... this time :mrgreen:
 
"Have you ever been exposed to Electric Bicycles before? "

Heheeee... Needs a "I've built one up and maintina it myself" category so you know ESers are taking the survey
 
MattyCiii said:
"Have you ever been exposed to Electric Bicycles before? "

Heheeee... Needs a "I've built one up and maintina it myself" category so you know ESers are taking the survey
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haha,

Good catch Matty. That question is difficult to answer isn't it. I meant the highest level, which in this case, is that you have ridden one... I should have had, "I own one" as an option. Adding now...
 
I needed a category for , would you pay $1500 for an ebike with 80 mile range, even if you had to weld it together yourself?

What I mean by, completely off the data points curve. If I start fitting in the bell curve, It's time to suicide.
 
dogman said:
I needed a category for , would you pay $1500 for an ebike with 80 mile range, even if you had to weld it together yourself?

What I mean by, completely off the data points curve. If I start fitting in the bell curve, It's time to suicide.
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Haha, indeed. Even as someone who absolutely loves to build stuff, I still recognize value in something that is already fully engineered. The Zero motorcycles are a good example. I couldn't build those bikes for what it costs to buy one already assembled :)

That doesn't mean I won't continue to build electric motorcycles / bicycles :mrgreen:
 
There is a big problem with two of the questions:

Which do you prefer?
An electric bicycle capable of :

* 20 MPH top speed for $800
* 35 MPH Range for $3000
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and

Which do you prefer?
An electric motorbike capable of :

* 35 MPH top speed for $3000
* 50 MPH Range for $5000
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I leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out the problem. ;)


Since there is only one valid answer for either question I picked the only valid answer for each one even though it is not necessarily what I would have answered if the question had two valid answers. (realistically I would need a third answer for all of those "purchase" questions because I myself wouldn't buy any of them; I'd have to build my own because no one makes anything I can actually use myself).



This question:
Have you ever been exposed to Electric Bicycles before?

* have seen a picture of an electric bicycle
* have seen an electric bicycle in person
* have ridden an electric bicycle
* have never seen an electric bicycle
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Needs a fifth answer, at the least, that includes having built (at least) one. ;)


Oh, and the questions about which type of bikes were preferred did not include any form of recumbent, so really I could not pick any of them, to give a valid answer. Still, because cargo was an option in one of them, I picked that because it is at least partly valid. ;)



I didn't answer the last question becuase I don't think there's enough space in your form for it. :p
 
Is that 9 different surveys, you want us to complete the same survey 9 times, or your keyboard got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck.
It happens.......
 
alsmith said:
Is that 9 different surveys, you want us to complete the same survey 9 times, or your keyboard got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck. got stuck.
It happens.......
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Haha, that's what happens when people can't find the link. I got pissed off hearing it, and that is the result ;)
 
amberwolf said:
There is a big problem with two of the questions:

Which do you prefer?
An electric bicycle capable of :

* 20 MPH top speed for $800
* 35 MPH Range for $3000
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and

Which do you prefer?
An electric motorbike capable of :

* 35 MPH top speed for $3000
* 50 MPH Range for $5000
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I leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out the problem. ;)


Since there is only one valid answer for either question I picked the only valid answer for each one even though it is not necessarily what I would have answered if the question had two valid answers. (realistically I would need a third answer for all of those "purchase" questions because I myself wouldn't buy any of them; I'd have to build my own because no one makes anything I can actually use myself).



This question:
Have you ever been exposed to Electric Bicycles before?

* have seen a picture of an electric bicycle
* have seen an electric bicycle in person
* have ridden an electric bicycle
* have never seen an electric bicycle
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Needs a fifth answer, at the least, that includes having built (at least) one. ;)


Oh, and the questions about which type of bikes were preferred did not include any form of recumbent, so really I could not pick any of them, to give a valid answer. Still, because cargo was an option in one of them, I picked that because it is at least partly valid. ;)



I didn't answer the last question becuase I don't think there's enough space in your form for it. :p
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Thanks AW. That is a big problem. Unfortunately by the time I realized it, the survey was already locked for editing, without resetting all of the output. Thank you for pointing it out!
 
Done, didn't leave my email address, happy to help. Though I guess that makes no difference as the incentive will just go to someone else anyway :p

Interesting survey and I can see where you're going with the line of questions. But the survey reads like it's aimed at the general public and of course you're completely skewing the data by posting it here to an ebike focused community, and with a notable trend towards high power/speed. I guess it depends what you're trying to get out of it and what point or trend you're trying to convey. If it's primarily targeted to the likes of the community here then your question could/should be different. And to work with what you've already got you probably should have an option when asking about ebike knowledge that includes "I own or regularly ride an ebike". Then you can easily compare attitudes and patterns that appear for every other question with ebike owners vs those who aren't, those who are interested, complete randoms, etc.
It's probably all too late now I guess, and feel free to take my comments with a grain of salt :p
I'm not trying to put shit on your work, it's just that I work in research so it's part of my day job to not only design properly focused studies but to review and critique those of others and identify limitations. It's amazing how often stuff gets published that is fairly obviously bullshit or specifically written or analysed in such a way that it makes the publishers intended point, or a subgroup of the data is re-analysed until it DOES make the point they want :lol: (usually when there's $$$$ on the line for the company developing or with an interest the said topic)
Again not knocking you, just pointing out things you may or may not want to do, or how you intend to represent the data :)
 
Hyena said:
Done, didn't leave my email address, happy to help. Though I guess that makes no difference as the incentive will just go to someone else anyway :p

Interesting survey and I can see where you're going with the line of questions. But the survey reads like it's aimed at the general public and of course you're completely skewing the data by posting it here to an ebike focused community, and with a notable trend towards high power/speed. I guess it depends what you're trying to get out of it and what point or trend you're trying to convey. If it's primarily targeted to the likes of the community here then your question could/should be different. And to work with what you've already got you probably should have an option when asking about ebike knowledge that includes "I own or regularly ride an ebike". Then you can easily compare attitudes and patterns that appear for every other question with ebike owners vs those who aren't, those who are interested, complete randoms, etc.
It's probably all too late now I guess, and feel free to take my comments with a grain of salt :p
I'm not trying to put shit on your work, it's just that I work in research so it's part of my day job to not only design properly focused studies but to review and critique those of others and identify limitations. It's amazing how often stuff gets published that is fairly obviously bullshit or specifically written or analysed in such a way that it makes the publishers intended point, or a subgroup of the data is re-analysed until it DOES make the point they want :lol: (usually when there's $$$$ on the line for the company developing or with an interest the said topic)
Again not knocking you, just pointing out things you may or may not want to do, or how you intend to represent the data :)
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Thanks for the feedback man! I am a total n00b when it comes to market research. I value your professional opinion. It is written for a general audience. However, I don't care about people who don't really care about ebikes or motorbikes. I'm certainly not trying to determine trends about the general population. I am testing a few hypothesis I have, some of which are looking pretty good, others not so much.

What I can say is that you can tell what questions were answered by the endless-sphere crowd. Very intelligent and pragmatic. Other respondents are quite different.... (hint hint I posted it on Moped Army too, just to keep things interesting) still very interesting responses.

I'm interested in people that are even just a little bit likely to ride an ebike....and that includes people that are extremely likely to ride an ebike....every single day
 
Cool. Yeah I think I can see what you're trying to bring to the surface: that many of us want to be able to legally / hassle free ride faster and that we're not necessarily pedalling meaningfully anyway so whether you call it a light weight, slow speed motorbike or a high speed ebike with ornamental pedals it makes little difference. I guess the other distinction you need to make is whether its used primarily for commuting or more for recreational/trail use. I have dedicated bikes for each purpose and couldn't go without either, though if I had to pick one I'd chose to keep my offroad ebike and ride my moto daily instead of the e-commuter.
 
Yeah, I'm trying to step back a little bit (not a lot) from my normal vantage point. I've always been concerned with only what I think is cool and useful, and I ride every day. The fact of the matter is that my use case is different than most people's ebike use-case. I'm waking up to the fact that most people don't use bikes the way I (we) do. It's curious how few people answered "commute" as their most likely reason to ride a bike.
 
Thanks and I took your survey good questions and hope to hear about the results
 
Excellent thanks! I will end it within a few days, and announce the winner, and share the results. Thanks again everyone!
 
Took the survey ..thanks for making me think, Troy!

Another metric is the guys and gals that want to be the first to have the latest gadget - or reduce their personal carbon footprint.

I think that environmentalism, rising fuel costs and/or 'emission guilt' plays a large part in the decision that the general masses consider when deciding to purchase an eBike as well.

Here's to an A+ :D
 
I'm going to close out the survey on Friday, so a few more chances to get in.


Thank you very much to everyone who participated. I have received an AWESOME response, which will hopefully translate to some helpful insight, and an awesome grade.

Thanks!
-Troy
 
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