800w Motor Controller Cables Help Identify please

[huntybike]

Hello,
I have purchased a controller for my escooter motor 800w.
But the item and the cable setup different from the website(aliex) colors, numbers of cable...
I understood half but some are unknown.
Please help me.
Thank you!
The schema image on website:

The controller i have recived:

 

[amberwolf]

I understood half but some are unknown.

Which ones do you already know?

I dont' see the pics you've linked, perhaps the site is blocked for me.

If you attach the images to your post in the attachments tab, anyone that can see the post can see the images.

 

[huntybike]

Hello,
I have uploaded another website. Please take a look. Thank you
https://i.imgur.com/CdDqDOL.png
https://i.imgur.com/iAeRzF7.jpg
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[amberwolf]

Hello,
I have uploaded another website. Please take a look. Thank you

Sorry, can't see those either.

Just use the attachments tab below where you type, and answer the question already asked previously, and we can start helping you.

 

[Dui ni shuo de dui]

My guesses:
1 phase cables to the motor
2 not sure
3 either the speed signal to the tachometer or the brake signal. I'd say this one is the brake signal
4 Main power from the battery. The thinner one should be connected to your main switch (generally the keylock)
5 not sure
6 not sure
7 either the speed signal to the tachometer or the brake signal. I'd say this one is the tachometer speed signal
8 Hall sensors
9 Throttle
10 three speeds mode switch
11 is a cable for testing purpose. You can use it to check if the motor and controller are working once power, hall sensors and phase cables are connected (1, 4 and 8). Do not connect it for normal operation.
12 Power supply to your antitheft alarm (if you have one)

For now, just connect 1, 4, 8 and 9. Those are the only ones that are necessary to at least be able to run the scooter.

 

[huntybike]

Hello,
At first Thanks Dui.
I have added to google drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tbKf7z7xu83OBEvrQlxYaK8n8dpdHsl2?usp=sharing
And attached to post also.
Ad Dui posted:
My guesses:
1 phase cables to the motor/Agree
2 not sure/ This is the problem there are 3 cables with 3 lines i don't know which one is 3 speed dial.
3 either the speed signal to the tachometer or the brake signal. I'd say this one is the brake signal/ I think speed
4 Main power from the battery. The thinner one should be connected to your main switch (generally the keylock)/Agree
5 not sure/ also
6 not sure/also
7 either the speed signal to the tachometer or the brake signal. I'd say this one is the tachometer speed signal/cruise signal i think
8 Hall sensors/ agree
9 Throttle/I have no idea
10 three speeds mode switch/i don't know which is which
11 is a cable for testing purpose. You can use it to check if the motor and controller are working once power, hall sensors and phase cables are connected (1, 4 and 8). Do not connect it for normal operation./agree
12 Power supply to your antitheft alarm (if you have one)/Agree

 

[huntybike]

i couldn't see attachment.posting again.

 

[Dui ni shuo de dui]

1 phase cables to the motor/Agree
2 not sure/ This is the problem there are 3 cables with 3 lines i don't know which one is 3 speed dial.
3 either the speed signal to the tachometer or the brake signal. I'd say this one is the brake signal/ I think speed
4 Main power from the battery. The thinner one should be connected to your main switch (generally the keylock)/Agree
5 not sure/ also
6 not sure/also
7 either the speed signal to the tachometer or the brake signal. I'd say this one is the tachometer speed signal/cruise signal i think
8 Hall sensors/ agree
9 Throttle/I have no idea
10 three speeds mode switch/i don't know which is which
11 is a cable for testing purpose. You can use it to check if the motor and controller are working once power, hall sensors and phase cables are connected (1, 4 and 8). Do not connect it for normal operation./agree
12 Power supply to your antitheft alarm (if you have one)/Agree

For now just connect these ones:
1 phase cables to the motor
4 Main power from the battery.
8 Hall sensors
9 Throttle

Those are the only ones necessary to run the scooter. I'm very confident 9 is the throttle, this color combo was used on pretty much every controller I've seen so far. In case you aren't sure, just use a multimeter and check the voltages. Red should be around 5V, black should be ground and green should be the signal. There's not much risk to connect it to your throttle, even if it's not the right one.

The other cables are just gadgets, you can figure them out later by trial and error. The 3 speeds switch is easy to figure out (just use a paperclip and shunt one wire to the other until you find which one does what), the brake signals are pretty much useless and somewhat annoying when you drive so I wouldn't use them if I were you, the speed tachometer is easy to find, (just plug a voltmeter between this cable and a ground, spin the wheel full throttle and see if there is a voltage change), and the other wires don't seem to serve any useful purpose at all.

My 2 cents: if you want your ride to be as reliable as possible, try to avoid using all the gadgets. On my builds, the only things that are connected to the controller are the throttle, the hall sensors, and the power wires. Any other stuff is just an added risk of failure, which will make you push your ride back home at some point.

 

[huntybike]

Hello,
Thank you Dui for your support!
I have connected as you said:
1 phase cables to the motor
4 Main power from the battery.
8 Hall sensors
9 Throttle!
Wheel didn't turn and lcd never light on. Im pretty sure im having problem with this key switch throttle Lcd cable. Small screen just shows Battery and speed ,throttle connected to this small screen. Im not sure if battery and speed fake or really working.

im connecting Green, red, black cable to controller 9 same colors. Not sure where to connect yellow and blue cables(they connect inside lcd to key switch i think). there is also white cable that speed i think.
Adding images. Take a look please thanks!

 

[Dui ni shuo de dui]

Hello,
Thank you Dui for your support!
I have connected as you said:
1 phase cables to the motor
4 Main power from the battery.
8 Hall sensors
9 Throttle!
Wheel didn't turn and lcd never light on. Im pretty sure im having problem with this key switch throttle Lcd cable. Small screen just shows Battery and speed ,throttle connected to this small screen. Im not sure if battery and speed fake or really working.

im connecting Green, red, black cable to controller 9 same colors. Not sure where to connect yellow and blue cables(they connect inside lcd to key switch i think). there is also white cable that speed i think.
Adding images. Take a look please thanks!

I don't see very clearly on your pictures, but it seems to me that you didn't connect the start cable. It's the thinner red one on the number 4 group. This cable is the one that tells the controller to switch on, so nothing can work until this cable is connected.

Also, could you take more detailed pictures of the key switch, it's a bit hard to see what's going on in there.
My guess would be that blue goes to the battery positive and yellow to the starter cable number 4, but it's a bit hard for me to be sure.
You should be able to at least test that the controller/motor/throttle are working by connecting directly this number 4 wire to batt+. It's basically a way to bypass the keyswitch. The screen and other stuff probably won't light up but the wheel should spin if you twist the throttle.

 

[huntybike]

Dui thanks again. You are right. That was my bad that I was thinking these yellow blue cables for speed control. Didn't search about throttle cable setup.
Wheel started turning
But got 2 problems now.
1-turning wrong way. I will Google this but any help we'll needed.
2-when I turn throttle wheel turning faster and faster. But when I stop throttle even I take my hand off wheel still continuously turning slowly on low power that I feel when try to stop with hand. Not stopping, turning slowly. Broken throttle? (this doesn't happen always, last time worked normal)
Thank you.

 

[huntybike]

Hi
Tonight i ride my escooter 1.time :thumb: Got to 47km max if speedmeter is right
Only thing is i don't have any lights.
I totally don't understand where to connect light cables? There is no on controller.
Im thinking about to dc dc 48v to 12v converter and put 4 led lights on scooter.
Thanks!

 

[Dui ni shuo de dui]

Hi
Tonight i ride my escooter 1.time :thumb: Got to 47km max if speedmeter is right
Only thing is i don't have any lights.
I totally don't understand where to connect light cables? There is no on controller.
Im thinking about to dc dc 48v to 12v converter and put 4 led lights on scooter.
Thanks!

Great news!!

About the lights, I'm not sure to understand, do you mean that there is no light installed from the factory, or that the ones already installed don't work/aren't connected?

If there is no light installed, you can easily DIY it, just purchase a DC/DC 48/12V converter and a light switch, then connect the 12V positive from the converter to the light switch to the LEDs. Just be careful to purchase a converter powerful enough to run the LEDs without heating/burning down.
For instance, if your LEDs need 2Amps @ 12V, try to find a converter able to supply 3Amps @ 12V. This way it will stay cool and last longer. Always take a little safety margin, those things are pretty cheap anyways