A whole new level of spun axles - what 10KW does to an X5

I have gone through phases... after destroying two 5305's (of two different generations) I hated on Crystalyte for a long time. I then went on a 9C binge - that was cool... but they just could not quite handle the power I wanted to throw at them. I also hate the 9C axle configuration... I want my wires coming out inside the frame. I then moved back to xlyte with the HS35 motors. Those are basically 9C motors that are 30% larger. Been quite happy so far - have yet to destroy one... but I dont ride as hard as I used to either.

I moved away from high voltage / low kv and moved toward medium-high voltage and medium-high current. 18S 80A is a good spot for me at the moment. At first I though off the line thrust was the goal but I have since realized that the key to performance is the power band... Area under the curve and where in the RPM band that lands has the greatest effect on my "OMFG" meter. I now like to run a higher KV motor that peaks between 15mph - 30mph. From 0-15mph could be faster... but the cost in efficiency and heat soaking it much too high... so now I take off the line a little bit slower, but once my power band hits at around 15mph it feels like the bike just accelerates faster and faster. It is an amazing feeling. I never ride my bike over 40mph anymore. This is to save my skin and to save my Wh... velocity cubed losses are just too big over 40mph.

Crystalyte is a love hate thing for me. Kenny has shafted me many times... but I would still rather do business with Crystalyte than most other companies. As far as the axle... Unless you are running mega power dont worry about it. That 54XX will flip you over before it rotates its axle.

If I had a 54xx motor in the mail I would have a huge bulge in my pants right now. I hate how huge and heavy they are, but as for brute acceleration - they are for the win.

-methods
 
I hope you are right! I've had two 9c's and been happy with them. This will be my first crystalyte experience, woot!
 
Next generation NC rear motors have the cable coming out from the side of the axle, so inside the bike frame.
 
Kiwi said:
Next generation NC rear motors have the cable coming out from the side of the axle, so inside the bike frame.

Nice....

Cable inside the frame
35mm to 40mm stator
Sensors
KV that will do 40mph in 26" on 18S
Sold by someone who I can trust not to screw me

That is what I want from a motor

-methods
 
methods said:
Kiwi said:
Next generation NC rear motors have the cable coming out from the side of the axle, so inside the bike frame.
Nice....

Cable inside the frame
35mm to 40mm stator
Sensors
KV that will do 40mph in 26" on 18S
Sold by someone who I can trust not to screw me

That is what I want from a motor
-methods
You should definitely try CroMotor :)
it has 50mm stator\magnets and it will give you 45mph in 26" wheel at 75v hot of the charger
And will not blow if you push it 10+kw some day :mrgreen:

i believe it is not too late and zombiess still have some available for reservation...
 
I would buy 10 of those in a second if I was not broke and destitute.

I would have to sell my body on the street to afford one of those at this point - and at my going rate - I would be too sore to ride buy the time I earned enough.

-methods
 
How about wiring your throttle into your CA so that you have Thrust Control - then riding around everywhere in a wheelie?

-methods
 
methods said:
How about wiring your throttle into your CA so that you have Thrust Control - then riding around everywhere in a wheelie?

-methods

What ??? I thought you were going to keep my new project idea under wraps at least until i had built it...damn..now have to think of something else
 
methods said:
How about wiring your throttle into your CA so that you have Thrust Control - then riding around everywhere in a wheelie?

-methods
You should use an accelerometer too then you can balance out some insane looking tricks!
 
methods said:
How about wiring your throttle into your CA so that you have Thrust Control - then riding around everywhere in a wheelie?

-methods

I'd totally do that... with my eyes closed and sitting backwards.
 
Arlo1 said:
methods said:
How about wiring your throttle into your CA so that you have Thrust Control - then riding around everywhere in a wheelie?

-methods
You should use an accelerometer too then you can balance out some insane looking tricks!

That is no joke... I could put a 3 axis accelerometer on there pretty easy.
I can do you one better.....

How about a heading-hold gyro? Then I dont even have to write good code.

-methods
 
methods said:
Arlo1 said:
methods said:
How about wiring your throttle into your CA so that you have Thrust Control - then riding around everywhere in a wheelie?

-methods
You should use an accelerometer too then you can balance out some insane looking tricks!

That is no joke... I could put a 3 axis accelerometer on there pretty easy.
I can do you one better.....

How about a heading-hold gyro? Then I dont even have to write good code.

-methods
Ive been planing this for a long time dude. Just imagine peoples faces when Im passing them on one wheel all over the place weaving thought traffic. I love to wheelie. I used to ride the sidewalk in Edmonton behind people walking while it was on my rear wheel and going walking pace in heavy pedestrian traffic on my bmx. It made my friends sick. I cant wait to do it at speed and make people freak out!!! :mrgreen:
 
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Example of the strength.. this is more for the Dr ;)
 
Hi Methods,

if you are going the epoxy route, check out
http://www.aremco.com/product/a7/
They have high temp epoxy.

Cheers
 
binlagin said:
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Example of the strength.. this is more for the Dr ;)


Excellent!! :twisted:

Doc
 
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