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wineboyrider said:What happened to evoforce?
We'll just have you pedal the SB Cruiser around...without the motors.Evoforce said:Amberwolf and I got together last Saturday to catch up a little and I got to ride his 3 wheeler. Very capable ride! When the weather cools a little, I will be back riding again. I need to get back out and exercise some pounds off.
Funny coincidence--for half a year after the housefire back in 2013 i did a similar commute, though it was mostly with CrazyBike2, under power, from an apartment down on 23rd & thomas up to my workplace just north of Metrocenter. Sometimes I'd take the 31st ave bike paths, which are pretty good most of the way, sometimes I'd take the ones on 23rd ave (which really suck when you get down to Camelback and parts south).wturber said:Years ago I used to commute (all human power) from around 35th Ave and Northern to Central and Thomas.
wineboyrider said:A Tesla there are superchargers in NM now and you can always borrow a plug in my house Evoforce. Glad you are still among the living and hope you recover from your health problems.
Hello wturber, welcome to the forum - I guess you are the table tennis guy? Looking forward to seeing your first build!wturber said:Yep. Working my way through my first build right now. Years ago I used to commute (all human power) from around 35th Ave and Northern to Central and Thomas. I'd do that 2-3 times a week year round. Career changes forced a stop to bike commuting. Too many places to go in a day. Years later, I moved to Fountain Hills and the distances (and the hills) make bike commuting a problem. Training and recreational riding is great in that area though.
So, enter the e-bike. Hopefully it will "flatten" the hills a bit and extend my range. These days my commute will be closer to 15-16 miles.
Bought a used mountain bike, 1000W 48v ebay hub motor and have started tinkering. I'm trying to stay within a fairly tight budget, which has meant getting creative with batteries. That has slowed me down a bit as I learn more about what's involved. Also, I'm just taking my time and resisting the urge to just make the thing go. I don't want to continue to fiddle or have a mess-o-wires hanging all over the bike. If things go well, I'll finally put power to things this weekend. We'll see.
amberwolf said:Funny coincidence--for half a year after the housefire back in 2013 i did a similar commute, though it was mostly with CrazyBike2, under power, from an apartment down on 23rd & thomas up to my workplace just north of Metrocenter. Sometimes I'd take the 31st ave bike paths, which are pretty good most of the way, sometimes I'd take the ones on 23rd ave (which really suck when you get down to Camelback and parts south).wturber said:Years ago I used to commute (all human power) from around 35th Ave and Northern to Central and Thomas.
Which paths did you use?
If you need help with the bike, (or just ride) you're welcome to come over my way, just south of Metrocenter.
PRW said:Hello wturber, welcome to the forum - I guess you are the table tennis guy? Looking forward to seeing your first build!
very interesting project - I need to read it slowly to try and understand it a bit better!wturber said:PRW said:Hello wturber, welcome to the forum - I guess you are the table tennis guy? Looking forward to seeing your first build!
I guess that would be me. Though the e-bike research/build has eaten into my TT time.
Here's my first phase of the build:
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=90369#p1317117
PRW said:very interesting project - I need to read it slowly to try and understand it a bit better!
Nice to see you on this forum - I met you at the Nationals in Las Vegas.
the lack of understanding is due to my lack of knowledge, more than anything else! Big, bald South African guy, who actually played against you...wturber said:PRW said:very interesting project - I need to read it slowly to try and understand it a bit better!
Nice to see you on this forum - I met you at the Nationals in Las Vegas.
Yeah - I probably said a lot about very little. Pretty standard setup except that I'm using a voltage booster - that most people seem to consider mediocre solution/approach. I'm horrible with names, so I'd probably have to see your face to remember you.
PRW said:the lack of understanding is due to my lack of knowledge, more than anything else! Big, bald South African guy, who actually played against you...wturber said:PRW said:very interesting project - I need to read it slowly to try and understand it a bit better!
Nice to see you on this forum - I met you at the Nationals in Las Vegas.
Yeah - I probably said a lot about very little. Pretty standard setup except that I'm using a voltage booster - that most people seem to consider mediocre solution/approach. I'm horrible with names, so I'd probably have to see your face to remember you.
ha - "destroyed" is very kind - they were very close games! Really enjoyed the match...wturber said:PRW said:the lack of understanding is due to my lack of knowledge, more than anything else! Big, bald South African guy, who actually played against you...wturber said:PRW said:very interesting project - I need to read it slowly to try and understand it a bit better!
Nice to see you on this forum - I met you at the Nationals in Las Vegas.
Yeah - I probably said a lot about very little. Pretty standard setup except that I'm using a voltage booster - that most people seem to consider mediocre solution/approach. I'm horrible with names, so I'd probably have to see your face to remember you.
Yeah - I remember you. You destroyed me with your forehand!! I kept figuring you'd start to miss, but you didn't. :^)
So far every video I've ever seen where people say they were hassled by police shows them acting pretty stupidily towards the police during the stop--either aggressive or other bad behavior, which is going to rile up teh officers and make them respond in kind. Naturally, none of the videos show the actual incident *before* the stop that caused the stop in the first place.wturber said:But I have read a few accounts where the police seem unreasonable and fairly nit-picky. But its hard to say if those accounts leave out other important facts. The hassling about street or sidewalk you have occasionally received makes it hard to just dismiss these negative accounts as merely the the result of bad motorized biker behavior and/or biased reporting of events. I'm guessing there's a mix.
OTOH, I've lived in the Phoenix area all my life and have ridden my bikes many thousands of mile on human power and have never been stopped by a cop about anything while riding. Further, since I'm now pushing 60, I suspect that I'm likely to attract less attention than a younger guy might. Its an unfair bias, but I had to deal with the opposite in my younger years.
Title 28 doesn't specify any power limit. But if Tucson has their own, then that's what it is there. They don't like ICE bikes at all but they're common there, and get harassed a lot. I dont' know about ebikes.At first blush, the laws do seem straightforward. OTOH, I've read interpretations (https://www.tucsonaz.gov/files/police/Motorized_Bicycles.pdf) that say the ebike motor must be below 750 watts when the statutes say no such thing.
But my biggest concern is with speed coasting down hills. If I interpret the law literally, then I need to coast down hills at 20 mph or less or I'd become a moped or even a motorcycle and face some potentially stiff fines. (Maybe this is an argument for me to put regen capability on the bike.) But I'd coast down those same hills at 30-40 mph on a regular bicycle anyway, so a strict interpretation of the law becomes a bit nonsensical if you consider the law's intent - which is to have ebikes and human powered bikes share a similar range of speeds. A LEO shouldn't begrudge me the coasting, but per the law, he'd have a justification in doing so. In order to be more clear, the law should stipulate the 20 mph limit on flat land or uphill inclines only - but it doesn't do that now.
I don't ride in Scottsdale at all, because the police there are different than everywhere else, and don't like cyclists at all. They definitely don't like "unsightly" bikes or vehicles of any kind and are likely to stop and harass them for no other reason, based on my limited experiences riding with others there, and when I was younger and cycled around the valley under human power.The new Tempe rules introduce at least one other ambiguity, by allowing a 28 mph ebike speed limit - contradicting AZ state law. FWIW, Scottsdale strictly prohibits ebikes on multi-use paths. I'm assuming that would include sidewalks. And I agree with you wholeheartedly about the hazards of riding on sidewalks at speeds over about 8 mph. I never do that.