Anyone tried a logarithmic potmeter?

You sound familiar with these, what are some good web-suppliers of appropriate units, and what type of audio-pot specs are in the E-bike throttle range? Sounds like an easy and cheap experiment...
 
If you've got any old stereos, tape players, portable cd/tape players, etc., just sitting in a junk closet, then you already have at least one log pot laying around waiting to be tested. :)

Unsolder the volume control pot and you've got what you're after. It will probably be a 10Kohm or 100Kohm pot, stereo so that it has actually two 3-pin pots in parallel. If it's a 10K and you want only a 5K, you could solder across each pair of pins, for the end taps of one end, the wipers, and the other end taps, although it won't be a perfect parallel because many pots are not exactly identical all the way around--but it will be very close.

So you could use that to test for the behavior you want, on a "bench stand" (upside down bike with wheel in air, for instance), before you try rigging one up into a throttle control unit.

Some of the pots will be slide pots, rather than rotary, which might make an interesting throttle.

I did actually try this on the ScootNGo when I was first getting into controllers, but I never got it to work right, because it was after a Hall type voltage range rather than 0-5V and I did not know about that at the time. If I had known, I would have calculated out what resistor values I needed in order to make a voltage divider setup with the pot in the middle so it had the full adjustment range expected by the controller from end to end, with the rest of the voltage across the end resistors in series with it.
 
I use a slide potentiometer. I hold it in my fingers for convenience. :wink:
 
A log pot might make it twichy at the high end instead of the low end. Never tried it though, should be worth a try.

Some of the more sophisticated controllers have a non-linear throttle curve as a programmable option. It would be fairly easy to make the controller do this in software. Another thing for the wish list....
 
fechter said:
A log pot might make it twichy at the high end instead of the low end. Never tried it though, should be worth a try.

Some of the more sophisticated controllers have a non-linear throttle curve as a programmable option. It would be fairly easy to make the controller do this in software. Another thing for the wish list....

I haven't thought about programming a controller so far...
What controller do you have in mind? Wouldn't it be nice to combine it with a ramp-control?
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-Olaf
 
spinningmagnets said:
You sound familiar with these, what are some good web-suppliers of appropriate units, and what type of audio-pot specs are in the E-bike throttle range? Sounds like an easy and cheap experiment...
What Amber said: An old stereo volume potmeter with 10kOhm would suit best.
If you need 5kOhm, put both channels parallel.
For the turnigy servotester it would be perfect with 10kOhm.
-Olaf
 
From deep down of my guts I came up with an idea how to modify a standard linear potmeter into nonlinear( I don't dare to call it logarithmic for now)
Lets say you have a 10k potmeter.
Solder a fixed value resistor parallel to the top and center point of the potmeter and you're done!
Unfortunatley my lack of english/mathematic vocabulary doesn't help to explain how it works... ( it's also difficult to write down math-equations in this forum)
My first choice would be a 10k resistor, but it would be nice to see a graph with different values.

Can someone of the math-wizards help me to confirm this?

If it works, one could even use a potmeter instead of the fixed value resistor and make it an adjustable nonlinear throttle curve! ( Maybe a bit overkill? )

-Olaf
PS: To all the trial'n'error kind of guys here: please wait until it's confirmed ;)
 
A couple of these circuits would I think be useful for setting up a 5K throttle.I have used these on a homebrew RC transmitter.
I especially like the 3 position one I will try on my latest build.
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Some cool circuits drifter! :D
As far as I understand, none of them is made to act like a logarithmic potmeter?
Pic. 3 is just a limiter for the servo end position. <edit> ( You were refering to the three pos switch)
But I know for sure, that such a function is implemented in my old RC-transmitter. Can't remember the name of the function...
-Olaf
 
olaf-lampe said:
Can someone of the math-wizards help me to confirm this?

If it works, one could even use a potmeter instead of the fixed value resistor and make it an adjustable nonlinear throttle curve! ( Maybe a bit overkill? )

Yes, placing a fixed resistor across the pot will make it non-linear. Not logrithmic but still non-linear.
The math is a bit of a headache, but it can certainly be calculated. This would be a good exercise for a SPICE program.
 
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