Best Trike?

Upright trikes are well suited for riding around factories. They can haul heavy loads easily, maintain stability riding at a creep (conversation with pedestrian pace), and are well suited to flat uninterrupted factory floor(no pot holes). Worksman is the standard for these applications.

However, their use outside of that setting is a little more ambiguous. They are certainly prone to tipping, and are hard to recommend based on that alone. Use on an incline is pretty scary, cornering at any speed requires skill, and at any significant speed really makes tipping a challenge. However, there are several on this forum who have used them successfully (ddk, UncleRon, and Jeff Peterson). I inherited one from a previous job, and I am currently looking into electrifying it for heavy hauling purposes.

I would recommend going with a recumbent, unless getting on, or being so low are issues.

I spent a year and a half riding an upright everyday, and 6 months of that in a completely empty factory where I was able to "test" its abilities at speeds higher than ordinarily recommended. I think this time qualifies me (in a purely anecdotal way) to evaluate performance enhancements of the geometric kind. The enhancements which I am trying are placing the batteries as low as feasible, creating a hitch which is forward of the rear axle (think fifth wheel), using a trailer in a way so that it creates a long lever arm to work against tipping, and placing a set of handlebars on the seat post which can help in comfort and to prevent tipping. However, I am a long way from real world testing, so...until that happens, none of these modifications are of much value for recommendation.

So...go with a recumbent if possible.
 
FWIW, Overloading the basket on the schwinns at work has bent an axle. That was after the stronger wheels were put on it. Likely straightenable, but I haven't bothered to try it. They last 3-4 years of daily hauling stuff, good enough, but hardly in the BEST class.
 
kriskros said:
SamTexas said:
kriskros said:
cyclopne motors,taiwan,have a complete trike...full suspension,motor and battery :mrgreen: ,ect...$1700.00
Full suspension? Do you have a link?
JUAT GOOGLE CYCLONE MOTORS :mrgreen:


for an exercise in futility...
 
Sancho's Horse said:
Chalo,

That rattlesnake is all kinds of awesome. Imagine that thing riding through town.

It is awesome, literally, to come across it in the street. I've ridden it around town many times, usually to move it to or from an event. People are surprised by it and just stare and forget what they were doing. Then as we ride away, they go scrambling for their phone cameras. :D

In the first video, I'm pedaling the stage trike I built-- with a five-piece rock band, their sound and lights guy, amps, and 400 pounds of batteries. That was about 3200 pounds all up. The snake is following behind. I love the camera guy's sentiments.

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In this one, Sachi talks a little about the snake bike and its features. It has 36 wheels, Sachi!

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Keeping Austin weird, one bike at a time.

Chalo
 
dogman said:
The schwinn has a decent enough frame. and a nearly useless drum rear brake, but better than nada. It was quite able to cruise fast enough once motorized to bend the wheels in a day or two. Can't corner at speed of course, till you master the two wheel turn.

Even at pedaling speeds, the wheels got bent up on two meridians that we use at work maintaining the condo grounds. Two condo residents liked the look of our trikes and bought one. Niether gets ridden any. Apparently schwinn designers anticipate this and build the wheels to suit that use. 8)

But I thought the frame on the meridian was pretty good, exceptional lateral stiffness for a step through with just one frame tube. But the cheap wheels bend real easy. One of the pedalers at work bent a rear axle as well, but that took years of use. As long as you are prepared to replace the rear wheels soon, it can be OK. Just not best by any means compared to the wheels on worksman trikes.

It was my very first Ebike build. Lead batteries didn't help the wheels any. :lol:


FWIW, E-BikeKit sells a trike kit. It uses a slow front hub motor, so you don't get too far into the dangerous speeds. The trike in the pic went 30 mph on 48v. Clearly too fast for the wheels. At 30 mph, it was nearly impossible to dodge objects on the road.

I don't get it. Maybe they upgraded the wheels ?

We have two of them.

I have had real good service from my factory wheels.

They can take this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0IJgoj4chI&feature=plcp

Those are stock wheels with well over 2000 miles on them.

On and of road.

Trikes have moves all their own ! :)
 
Thanks for all the responses.

Has anyone ever had any experience with chariot bikes? Worksman Cycles has one.

chariotsingle-200.jpg


My dad found it on their website and likes it because he can tote around his granddaughter. I see plenty of room for batteries and am thinking the seat could be swapped out for a large basket for his grocery shopping, etc. It has a rear coaster and since I'd be replacing the front wheel with a hub I'd have to add a front V-brake (which I assume the fork has a hole for). Not a fan of the price, $1,500...but cheaper than a Buick I suppose.

Thanks also for the tip for e-bikekit. I checked out their trike kit and I like the 10mph top speed. His current bike tops out at just under 15mph. He wants to keep his current bike and have 2, so I'll have to buy a new kit...this might be the one I get. Although I don't get the Forward-Reverse button. Seems unnecessary to have the bike go 3mph in reverse. The e-brake is intriguing! But sounds like a waste of battery juice?
 
auto_bike said:
Thanks for all the responses.

Has anyone ever had any experience with chariot bikes? Worksman Cycles has one.

chariotsingle-200.jpg

I guess you mean pedicab trikes? In the United States, Main Street Pedicabs is the standard. In the UK, Cycles Maximus is top dog. There are lots of lower-priced versions and pretenders all over the world, though, mostly from the Far East.

If I know Worksman, you can get just as intensive a workout while hauling half the load of one of the commercial pedicab trikes. They were founded in 1898 and their machines are still there, in terms of their sophistication.

Austin has something like 200 pedicab trikes, and I have serviced many of them. They have better design, parts, and workmanship than most trikes, but worse than most decent (non-department store) bikes.

Chalo
 
Jeff Peterson did a mid drive with a worksman stretch mover. He used it for hauling people pedicab style.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15456

He used a reduction currie motor in a mid -drive setup, which evolved into twin curries with a nuvinci continuously variable transmission.
A hubbie on the front is certainly easier, but once you pass weight barriers, there is something to be said for going through gears.
 
Diamondback said:
took me all of 10 seconds.....

http://cyclone-tw.com/order-erecumbent.htm

Jason.
Jason
I know you're trying to be helpful but that page goes nowhere for me, in the usa.

some key features of the webpages you're referring to includes: being published in 2004 and never being updated.
For some reason they haven't sunk to the bottom depths of search engines or been taken offline.

-so while the trikes may be available somewhere in the world, they are not available in the usa, which is the place where I keep all my stuff.
 
Chalo said:
ddk said:
Diamondback said:

I know you're trying to be helpful but that page goes nowhere for me, in the usa.

The link pops right up for me, in the USA. Here's an image from the page:

recumbent-mesh.jpg


Whether it is still commercially relevant information is another matter.

Chalo
...of course it does.
but the answer to the 64000 question remains to be answered
I sent emails to the company and the usa reps about possibly purchasing one with 'updated' prices etc and nobody was home... three times knocking.
So in my estimation it's not commercially available in the usa.
 
Paco mentioned to make that they are available while corresponding about kit mounting issues recently, though I haven't got my hands on one. I'm not sure I'm feeling brave enough to be the guinea pig, but I've been looking at suspension tadpoles.
 
cant help with any info on the trike.

i just googled and found the page...

as for suspension tadpoles, i am about to take delivery of a new
HP Velotechnik Scorpion FS tadpole recumbent.....

i should have it in about 3 weeks time.
i have to wait for it to clear customs and make the final payment to the dealer....

Jason.
 
Diamondback said:
cant help with any info on the trike.

i just googled and found the page...

as for suspension tadpoles, i am about to take delivery of a new
HP Velotechnik Scorpion FS tadpole recumbent.....

i should have it in about 3 weeks time.
i have to wait for it to clear customs and make the final payment to the dealer....

Jason.
... and in the end I found out I was unable to physically lift my legs in a recumbent position for any length of time (back problems)
...so I built something that better fit my physical unfitness.

you planning a rear hub or a mid-mount for your trike?
 
im planning a rear hub.

a low power ezee 550W hub running with the V3 CA and thun BB. running on 12S lipo
i am hoping to be able to do away with the throttle and use it like a bionx system.

i will be posting pics of the trike and setup once i get it and get the motor on it.

Jason.
 
SamTexas said:
kriskros said:
cyclopne motors,taiwan,have a complete trike...full suspension,motor and battery :mrgreen: ,ect...$1700.00
Full suspension? Do you have a link?
In case this question hasn't been answered the link is cyclone.tw
They even have a tilting trike, but the full suspension on is much cheaper.
otherDoc
 
I saw this GBE trike a while back and was intrigued by the ability to LEAN it in a turn. It also has small 16" wheels in back and 20" in front for a lower CG and better thrust from the motor.

GBEtrike1.jpg

http://greenbikeeffect.com/?p=874

A little pricey but it can be found for less than the $1700 retail.


-R
 
These guys make a pretty good conventional but tilting trike.

http://www.varnahandcycles.com/cycles.htm
otherDoc
 
docnjoj said:
These guys make a pretty good conventional but tilting trike.

http://www.varnahandcycles.com/cycles.htm
otherDoc

OMG a trike that would suit me!

...except for the price :lol:

'm jest gonna 'build' a 'nuther likes I already gots
since I already know what needs to be known

The thing I really prefer about a conventional delta trike has little to do with its' 'stability' ...mainly to do with 'fixing flats'
Conventional delta trikes that use single-ended axles in the rear are the easiest pedaled-contraptions bar none for changing tubes on the road. Part of the joys of riding a bike/trike :|
The rears don't even require you to the remove the wheel in most cases
 
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