"Broom", a junk commuter ebike

pawelr98

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Hello

I'm new to the forum so I wanted to start with showing my e-bike that I use for daily commute.

Let's start with the specs:
Steel Frame 24" bike from ~2007
MY1016Z 250W 36V brushed DC motor
"Because" freewheel aluminium crank
2x28T schimano gears on crank
11S6P LG MG1(10A 2900mAh) battery- self made
PWM driver based on TL494 and mosfets-self made

Speed:20-25km/h normally, 30-32km/h on flat road with lowest gear ratio and fully charged battery

It all started in early 2016 when I got the idea.
I was in my last year of highschool.
It was at that time when I decided to actually build an ebike.

Later I purchased a stick welder and welded the frame extension(frame of a small children bike was cut into pieces).
Then I could really start using it.

At that point I was using 3x12V 20Ah lead-acid batteries and I didn't have freewheel crank.
Pretty much how it looked like back then.
[youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKPS6F4EImU [/youtube]

I was riding it from time to time to get some parts from hardware store.

Because I had a normal crank I had to ride with legs up.
The shadow casted by the frame and myself looked a bit similar to a person "riding" a broom.
This is where the name comes from.

But most likely you noticed the welded extra pair of pedals.
At the beggining it served two purposes:
-place for legs when riding
-motor activation

The "motor activation" part is because of Polish bicycle law (most EU countries have similar laws).
E-bike can be called a standard bike when following conditions are met:
-250W max nominal motor power -check ("nominal" giving a lot of room for extra power)
-48V max voltage -check
-25km/h max speed -check (mechanical limit based on gear ratio)
-Motor activated by pressure on pedals- check

They really did directly state that there must be "pressure on pedals".
So I did exactly that. There's a simple thyristor circuit which activates the controller when pedals get pushed once.

Later I purchased a freewheel crank which finally allowed me to ride normally.

The worst thing that remained were the lead-acid batteries.
They were just darn heavy. ~20Kg on the frame extension (high center of gravity) made it rather unstable on corners.

I didn't use it much because I was spending my time in a different city attending university.

The great breakthrough came when I decided to put together a spot-welder for 18650 cells.
I purchased cheap new LG MG1 cells which had been removed from new batteries.
They measured like a brand new cell.

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Battery ended up like this. Balance ports divided it into 6S + 5S for charging with Imax B6.
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I don't use any BMS system. Just balance charger.
I monitor the voltage using small voltmeter and the battery is protected from shorts by a 25A fast-blow fuse.

After I made the battery I decided to do some more work on the bike.
Removed some junk parts I welded years ago, aligned the rear wheel, replaced the front brake(only one), added lighting and many other small improvements.

The state of the bicycle as it is today.
Doing commute 2 days in a week because it's faster than public transport in early hours.
Public transport can get really crowded and people can even "fight" for ability to get into a bus.
Really gets attention when I roll into university gate on this thing.

Chinese throttle cracked on my first commute. Had to replace hall-sensor(leads broke off) and tape it back together.
24" wheels are small for my height (181cm) so I just happened to hit the key when getting off the bike.
The throttle went into pieces. Really low quality plastic.
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Running fixed gear, at one point I melted the line during welding :oops: .
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Simple protection, a steel rod frame along with a chain and a padlock.
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Steel frame is easy to weld using cheap stick welder. Aluminium is not.
If I am to replace the frame then I'm going to get another steel frame.

250W is NOT ENOUGH for rides in "hilly" terrain.
You can kill the motor faster than you think.
I increased the gear reduction to prevent the motor from burning on daily commutes.

I really wish Poland would increase the motor limit to 350W at least(500W would be ideal).
However plenty of e-bike people around here are just using stronger motors which is illegal(such ebike is classified as moped).
Not that police cares much.
Each time the motor struggles I'm considering putting a stronger brushed DC motor or a BLDC motor(a normal one I can just put in the mounting place of current one, it will have better cooling than a hub motor).
Maybe if I kill the current motor then I will really consider purchasing a new stronger one.
For now I prefer sticking to the law.
 
I would say the chain is somewhere around 2-2.5Kg mark.

The motor has nearly killed itself.

The thing with the MY1016/MY1016Z motors is that the shaft bearing from commutator side is placed in a rubber ring.
With time and heat it gets soft and the rotor will eventually collide with permanent magnets in stator.
I found 360° marks on the magnets.

I was searching for a solution and refrained from riding.

Recently I placed an order on a bearing mounting ring made out of metal.
Cost is ~10PLN or ~2.5USD.

Default shaft bearing is 608 or 8x22x7mm (internal, external, thickness).
Rubber ring makes it 26mm external.

It was almost impossible to find a 8x26mm bearing but I found a 22x26mm metal mounting ring for bearings.
This should fix the problem.
If it doesn't work then I also purchased a cheap ~0.5USD 628 (8x24x7) bearing which should make this rubber ring far tighter.

However there is a long waiting time for this particular item.
I also couldn't find any other local source so I will wait for it to arrive.

While those chinese motors are not the most efficient or reliable then the "crudeness" of DC motors(controller is very simple, "self-regulates") and the pricing makes them appealing.
If the metal ring fixes the bearing problem then the motor should be rather reliable.
Maintence is fairly easy. 20-30 minutes to take it apart, check all the components and put it back together(the harder part).
All you need is two screwdrivers. One philips(screws) and one flat(prying open).
 
Hi,
you may not remember, but you posted article about your bike 5 years ago and I want to ask you about your experience with your MY1016Z motor. Did you kill it already?
 
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