Cyclone 3kw and sabvoton contoller setup issues

[d4cl4n]

Hi guys,

I have installed the motor and connected it up with an 80A sabvoton controller that I bought as I thought it would be an easy plug and play but now its giving me grief. I bought the motor on its own so I don't have the standard controller.

I'm hoping anyone can shed some light on the Hal test procedure, that i cant seem to get to pass, is it even possible ? Not much info can be found but i cant be the only one to have tried this.

I have tried 36 different combinations of Hal/phase wires and i believe i found the best combo and yet it still wont pass.

My motor works but without it passing the angle setup I'm afraid of doing some serious damage.

I also cant get my PAS to work but im not sure if PAS is meant to work with a cyclone ?

 

[Jonno]

YRe: Hall sensor problems, i guess
by xfrankie » Mar 19 2019 10:33pm

Hi all,
so a few updates on my situation.
Got a reply from the controller vendor today, apparently everything is normal and meant to be this way. I still don't like that the controller shell is "grounded" to B- , but they say it is intentional and so far I had no reason to distrust the QS company. If anything, they have been utmost helpful to me.

Thanks to Jonno I managed to actually complete a Hall test on today's last try.
I tried to complete it using the mobile app and bluetooth, instead of a laptop which I used to test until today.
The "current given" parameter was no issue, as I remembered that it needs to be right around 10amps (from the very first time I put the motor/ESC combo on my bike, maybe a year ago).
What escaped me, however, was the Hall offset, and that for testing it HAS TO BE SET AS 15 Degrees for whatever the hell reason...
Test succesful, new Hall angle detected: 184deg ...
I feel like I won a battle, but not the war.
More updates after I will put the motor back on the bike (tomorrow most likely). Im done for today, take care everybody.

And a HUGE Thank you to Jonno. You may have just saved me from buying a new ESC.

Thank you for reading this,
Frankie

 

[Tommm]

Look in the cyclone thread about hall sensors. It is known cyclone hall sensors are noisy and some people use a pull up transistor to make it work.

 

[d4cl4n]

Thanks I'll try some of the setup solutions above and will also try checking my hal supply feed is 5v.

There is so much info in that cyclone thread it's like information overload.

 

[d4cl4n]

Look in the cyclone thread about hall sensors. It is known cyclone hall sensors are noisy and some people use a pull up transistor to make it work.

I have tried so hard to find this mentioned an to no avail. I believe there must be an issue with pairing cyclones with sabvotons and hal angle problems. I tested my hal wires an i get a 5v supply but upon rotation its does not switch between 0-5v which i think it has to and i only get 3ish volts to each sensor wire when rotating the motor and i think the pull up transistor mod would pull this up to the needed 5v as you say. If only i could find any mention of this.

My motor runs and appears to run smooth which is good but im scared that with the incorrect hal angle on load it will burn out.

 

[chiBikeE]

Is it possible to use the cyclone without hall sensors on a sabvoton controller