steveo
100 kW
anyone know how much amps can be run through them; i'm in the middest of doing a 100v 60-80 amp setup for my bike...
thx in advance ..
thx in advance ..
deans connectors...
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magudaman
10 kW
I always though it was 50 amp cont. but I'm sure they can take more. That was just their rating. I would be a bit concerned for that high voltage and the close spacing of the connectors though.
Mark_A_W
100 kW
At 100v, I'd be getting a 50amp Anderson connector at the very least.
It's about 10x bigger than a Deans connector, and I would think that 80amps (8kw
???) would be ok too, it's huge.
Deans connectors are REALLY, REALLY TINY.
It's about 10x bigger than a Deans connector, and I would think that 80amps (8kw
???) would be ok too, it's huge.Deans connectors are REALLY, REALLY TINY.
Beagle123
10 kW
I'm using the andersens 45 amp connectors and they look tiny to me. The Dean's ultra plus is much bigger. I'm sure it can handle way more amps than the rating. For high current applications, I think I'd use the Dean's plugs because they just have more metal.
You could also run a bunch of current through them and see if they heat up.
You could also run a bunch of current through them and see if they heat up.
Ypedal
100 TW
I'd go with 75 amp Andersons presonally.. I received a bunch of them from rosspar in canada 2 days ago and they are considerably larger than the 30/45 amp tips.. can take 8 or 10 gauge wire.
Mark_A_W
100 kW
Based on the way Anderson sizes their smaller stuff, I imagine 50 and 75amp connectors are the same size, except for the wire entry (?).
Which Deans connectors are you all talking about? The ones I have for my RC plane are tiny- about 12mm across. I use 4 in parallel for my Lipo booster pack, NO WAY would I put the full current through one.
Which Deans connectors are you all talking about? The ones I have for my RC plane are tiny- about 12mm across. I use 4 in parallel for my Lipo booster pack, NO WAY would I put the full current through one.
Ypedal
100 TW
xyster
10 MW
Hey ypedal, can you see if you can crimp one of those 75's with a regular crimper?
ngocthach1130
1 kW
yeah i'm interested in knowing that too. 25-45A crimper is already $50. I'm not kean on spending on new crimper at the moment. That 70A connector is massive though. Anderson is pretty convenient IMO but it disconnect too easily.
Ypedal
100 TW
I"ve got the Gardner-Bender vice type crimper and i crimping these suckers is no easy task, with 10 gauge wire you could easily solder them in.
They do not have the seam to collapse inwards like the 15/30/45 tips, it's a solid barrel.
With 12 gauge wire i'd strip double lenght and fold the copper over to fill the barrel with copper, then solder it full.. no need for cimpers.
The plastic housings are plenty big, if it makes one happy, they could be flattened with vice-grips ( Xyster style ) or squised into a vice !!
But i would still solder them regardless.
I don't solder the 30's anymore, i find that if you crimp them on right they are as tight as possible and remain flexible, solid, good connection.
The 45's get the solder.
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They do not have the seam to collapse inwards like the 15/30/45 tips, it's a solid barrel.
With 12 gauge wire i'd strip double lenght and fold the copper over to fill the barrel with copper, then solder it full.. no need for cimpers.
The plastic housings are plenty big, if it makes one happy, they could be flattened with vice-grips ( Xyster style ) or squised into a vice !!
But i would still solder them regardless.I don't solder the 30's anymore, i find that if you crimp them on right they are as tight as possible and remain flexible, solid, good connection.
The 45's get the solder.
8)
Beagle123
10 kW
Personally, I can't see any difference between the 30amp and 45 amp. They're exactly the same size. The only difference is that the 45's have a bigger "U" shaped fitting to accept 10 guage wire, but the contacts look exactly the same.
Ypedal
100 TW
I need to go look this up on the anderson site, but it looks to me like the 15/30 contacts are aluminum.. and the 45's are zink/silver/??? plated copper.
The contact patch is the same, but the 45's are thicker material.
The contact patch is the same, but the 45's are thicker material.
Mark_A_W
100 kW
Ypedal said:
50's are the same size I think.
I couldn't crimp them, I just soldered.
ngocthach1130
1 kW
I use the 45A anderson with 12g or 10g and i just crimp no soldering. They seem to be good connection. Doesn't feel like it would fall out easily. Do you guys pose any benefits to soldering? Solid contact between copper wires and connector? Lower impedance maybe?
Eric G
1 kW
The 15/30/45/75amp power pole contacts are copper with silver/tin plating.The 120/180amp ones are copper with silver plating.
This info is from Rosspar Limited : http://www.connectors.ca/en/pp/ppFeatures.html
Eric
This info is from Rosspar Limited : http://www.connectors.ca/en/pp/ppFeatures.html
Eric
GGoodrum
1 MW
In the RC world, we have used the Deans plugs with setups that have had voltages up to 60V and current peaks of 100A+. The biggest proble I've seen with them is that when you first connect them together in these big setups, they arc pretty bad if not connected together quickly and smoothly. To minimise this, you have start at the bottom, with the vertical blade (the negative usually...), and then roll the upper parts together.
I've had some dead shorts that melted wires before anything happened to the Deans plugs, but the same sort of shorts melted the platic right off the Anderson PowerPoles (45A version...).
My bikes are setup for 66V and 90A. I use the Andersons for connecting sub-packs together and a Deans to connect to the controller. No problems so far.
-- Gary
I've had some dead shorts that melted wires before anything happened to the Deans plugs, but the same sort of shorts melted the platic right off the Anderson PowerPoles (45A version...).
My bikes are setup for 66V and 90A. I use the Andersons for connecting sub-packs together and a Deans to connect to the controller. No problems so far.
-- Gary
steveo
100 kW
GGoodrum said:In the RC world, we have used the Deans plugs with setups that have had voltages up to 60V and current peaks of 100A+. The biggest proble I've seen with them is that when you first connect them together in these big setups, they arc pretty bad if not connected together quickly and smoothly. To minimise this, you have start at the bottom, with the vertical blade (the negative usually...), and then roll the upper parts together.
I've had some dead shorts that melted wires before anything happened to the Deans plugs, but the same sort of shorts melted the platic right off the Anderson PowerPoles (45A version...).
My bikes are setup for 66V and 90A. I use the Andersons for connecting sub-packs together and a Deans to connect to the controller. No problems so far.
-- Gary
It looks like nobody really knows a solid number; i will try them out though shrink wrap everything nicely & test to see if they warm up; ill be using 10 guage threaded wiring sodered to the deans connectors i will post my results once completed;
-steve
Drunkskunk
100 GW
I'm using Deans right now on my bike for part of the wireing, and slowly converting away from andersons to Deans. they are fine at 85V, but there is some arcing if you try to conect the batterys while the switch is on.
my bike is set for a max of 30 amps, and usualy pulls less than 10. However, I also fly RC planes, and use Deans exclusivly there. I've pulled 35 amps continious through them, and with short breaks to swap batteries, for atleast an hour. the plugs stay cool.
Some people a while back over on the RC forums actualy tested Andersons against Deans. Andersons had a resistance of around .05 ohm per pole, while Deans actualy had less resistance than the inch of wire they replaced.
my bike is set for a max of 30 amps, and usualy pulls less than 10. However, I also fly RC planes, and use Deans exclusivly there. I've pulled 35 amps continious through them, and with short breaks to swap batteries, for atleast an hour. the plugs stay cool.
Some people a while back over on the RC forums actualy tested Andersons against Deans. Andersons had a resistance of around .05 ohm per pole, while Deans actualy had less resistance than the inch of wire they replaced.
