Decent commercial ebikes in Australia?

[Spicerack]

Apart from the Stealth range, does anyone have any experience with decent ebikes for sale in Australia? I'm thinking of putting up a business case submission to my work to get some. They'd need decent range, simple to use/charge etc and be fairly durable.

Ideas?

 

[ElectricEd]

Australia Post is using ebikes around where I live at the moment. The motors look like a Crystalite 408 or even a little bigger.I've done a search but only found http://www.evehicle.com.au/Products/Electric-Bicycles/EVO-Kit-Bike-Combos/ who claim to supply AP.
Their motors in the pictures are the typical "wouldn't pull skin off a rice pudding" type mandated by regulations that are only 200 watts. The one used by my local postie is definitely not one of those.
http://www.evehicles.com.au/Product...is-Coda-Sport-Chromoly-24-speed-Road-Bike.asp they list a 500 watt version.

I'll go past the dispatch centre on my commute tomorrow and get back to you.

 

[Samd]

Gday Ed and co!

User T3sla has some info on AusPost bikes in this thread page:
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8482&start=1290

They seem to be just doing auspost work now, but perhaps if the volume was sufficient...

Perhaps GlowWormCycles are worth a go?
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31819

Kiqnkf seems to suggest "Chituma Elec.bikes!!! Read my review in the review section if you like. Phone Laurie, 9786 3982." in the Melbourne group ride thread...

Actually, edited - this is a big list:
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17526

 

[motorino magnet]

Aussie is so far away from the USA and Canada....


I will tell ya this from here you are commanding the highest prices....!1!!!!

pal of mine got double his money buying and delivering a cat to OZ...a 420 e cat...

that being said he paid with his life----- to get her there,,,complications,,,,assholes and tattoo'ss ,much grief,,but he made his dough...with his friends and we had a good time...discipleship when we go..


sea what im mean in..

but yo asking and im thinking we got a lot to be made from there too here...

so much cash im seeing bringing silicon acts to you ---


cept you government ids a s fragile as all the rest of us -ehÉÉÉÉ


i pay and pla on forex -how out you-matey!

 

[motorino magnet]

you boys got me,,,

http://www.forex.com/uk/index.html

im enamored with the new world currency...

im thinking its all lot of bullshit science...

but then again wt f do i know....


was watching a lot of Aussies making a lot of Currier doubling there cash rigging back sailing chats from th desalinating USA-


ot hard to see or understand....

like thi baby -currant,,,

 

[motorino magnet]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Prout-Ranger-fast-blue-water-catamaran-/270917786468?pt=Sailboats&hash=item3f13f55b64

dirt cheap...


watch this baby i could deliver for less than ten grand...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sailboat-Paradise-/160734814216?pt=Sailboats&hash=item256c8aa008

sad that you got mining and a Governor t hats selling ya out,,,


creepy in mi mind...


lots of people selling cause your bringing -for????!!

Greece will ply wit ya... the USA will frock ya like the UK ,,,,


if-- the cards are on the table. if your a gangbusters 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


IL- play since im an old mann im greedy


been long time player on sailors ND businessman


god bless and lets sail!!!!!

 

[motorino magnet]

i shouldn't have opened up this page cause the world -she is a changing


remember this gentleman

hes deadwood


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcOY-C76mbU-

we are ll still here and building e bikes and stopping the NE w war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[motorino magnet]

AKA -ya better start swimming or yalll sink like a store -cause the tines they are AR changing......



listen my freiends


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDm2AIw7Myo

 

[Hillhater]

Apart from the Stealth range, does anyone have any experience with decent ebikes for sale in Australia? ?

What do you mean by "decent" ? ? high quality ? or high powered ?
If you are looking for a "commercial supply" then is only ever going to be a 250 W model. There is a fair choice in that range.
Or are you looking for someone to build you a "Special" high powered bike for off road use...?

PS.. can someone translate WTF MM is on about ??

 

[ElectricEd]

No luck at the dispatch centre, they were all out.
I just found this vid from Hyena? about the postie ebikes on YouTube:
[youtube]95fIQvELn2s[/youtube]

They don't look too exciting

 

[shorza]

http://www.gazellebicycles.com.au/ but as stated before, they probably "wouldn't pull skin off a rice pudding".

I spoke to one dealer yesterday, who said that they reprogram the controller to 200w, to fit within Australian law. They are also pedelec.

 

[Hyena]

Yeah the Aus post ones aren't much chop and they're fairly specifically made to be heavy duty for attaching racks to lug around mail on.
Nearly all commercial ebikes I've seen use pathetic little bafang type motors which as stated are hugely gutless.
My pick would be the whisper ones glowworm sells, they're a larger geared motor more like a mac/bmc and while they're still supposedly 200w they'd most likely handle 500w until the cows come home.
The problem with many commercial ebikes, aside from using baby motors is the batteries. They're largely cheap shit 2C lifepo4 that max out at 20 amps (+/- a BMS that also trips at 20-25A) So even if you up the current in the controller the batteries just can't deliver the juice.

If it's for your work though then they're probably going to want to stick with 200w for safety/legal reasons so nearly all of the commercial offerings will be much of a muchness.

How big is the contract though ? The good folks at Hyena Electric Bikes would be happy to oblige if your company will allow themselves to be gouged like Aus post is :lol:

 

[Spicerack]

Thanks again for the replies, apart from MM of course you spamming MF SPAMBOT!

The bikes would probably need to appear to be legal- I'm sure those stickers would help, hey Jay? At this stage it would only be a small number to start with. That's even if I could get it off the ground. So far I've encountered the usual dismissal and lack of vision that I'm sure many of us have come across before.

I'm still going to put the case up and might approach a govt dept or two to see if they have any ev incentives etc.

 

[Anthrobruce]

Check this URL for Ride On's / Chioice magazine's review of 18 ebikes sold in Oz:

http://www.choice.com.au/reviews-and-tests/transport/bikes/bikes-and-cycling/electric-bicycles-review.aspx

Gazelle has brought out a new XT Plus model with more torque. See:

http://www.cycle-heaven.co.uk/bikes/brands/gazelle/gazelle-orange-plus-innergy-xt-men-s-women-s-2012/

They'll be here by ship in late April. Price A$3000.

I'm not a dealer. I've got one on order. Only two months to go!!!

Anthrobruce in Brissie

 

[jateureka]

Hmm, seems like a lot has changed in the last 18 months or so since this thread was started. Certainly a lot more range and more e-bike dealers in Brisbane, like Pushy's and Electric Bikes Brisbane.

The biggest/strongest motors available on conmercial e-bikes are the eZee, BPM and Mac, all of which are really 350W motors that are detuned.

Ezee is sold by Glow Worm Bicycles and they have a large network of dealers.

BPM motors (or similar) are fitted to some BH Emotion e-bikes, I forget which model but think it was the one with Tektro e-comp hydraulic disc brakes. You can also buy motor kits from EVS (Electric Vehicles Pty Ltd)
Aust Post uses the BPM 350W detuned in their fluro yellow EMB's and that pic of the old red post bike fitted with a hub motor is a Mac (CMA), as supplied by EVS

Mac motors were also being sold by TEBCO (The Electric Bicycle Co) in their kits and some of their e-bikes, not sure if that is still the case.

 

[alsmith]

No luck at the dispatch centre, they were all out.
I just found this vid from Hyena? about the postie ebikes on YouTube:


They don't look too exciting

They are work tools. When was the last time any employer bought a tool for it's employees that didn't have the reliable, inexpensive to run/buy, legal ...............

 

[Geebee]

Probably the best legal hub motor from chatting to a lot of users and seeing the videos of what they can climb is the EZEE bikes, the bikes are not the prettiest but very functional http://glowwormbicycles.com.au/store/ezeebike-electric-bicycles/ezee-torq-gen-1
Video of hill climbing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxtPrll28kw