Allex
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Rix, looks like a very well made motor, WOnder how it looks inside!
fsmuggen, poor mum, what happens if the battery dies on her? haha
fsmuggen, poor mum, what happens if the battery dies on her? haha
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Rix
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Allex said:
When I open it up to vent and coat with T9 Boeshield, I will snap some pics and post. I don't think the stator will be much different than the TC Crown series, but not sure. Will be soon though.
Damn FSmuggen, your moms machine sounds like it will be a bit quick with a 90 volt battery and TC100, how fast will she go?
I've done similar.fsmuggen said:
My Recumbent commuter has my Fighters CA. It did have my stock Fighter battery as well, but it was too heavy and made the thing flip way to easy...I know from experience!
I've since put half the LiPo packs I had on my Fighter on the back of this for less weight with similar range.
It makes all the money I've spent on upgrades to the Fighter seem less wasteful.
Cheers
fsmuggen
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I know Cowardlyduck, but I overcome the heavy rear end problem just by adding a curbstone or two to the front basket.. easy fix..
RIx: With this setup I had 90kph+ on the fighter. I think I have to restrict the speed limit to mabe 35kph. The problem is that you don't dare to go faster. It's like having a old fiat panda with a rear mounted V8 and three adults in the back seat all the time..
Another thing. Someone was talking about bearing change on the swing arm on the fighter. I just did a change on those, the bearings is NSK 6301v. It was not that hard when you got the first one out, but I had to use a hammer and a screwdriver to knock the first one into pieces so I could manage to get out the other one in one piece. Did this by removing the plastic seal and then hammering through thenetal band that secures the ballbearing, I removed the metal and managed to kick out one of the balls then the inner parts came out of it self. In the middle there is a sleeve that make shure you don't pull stress on any of the bearings.
Then I used a 20 socket with an extension to kick out the other complete bearing. Changed socket to 22 and kicked out the outer ring of the first bearing.
this is all I needed to remove the bearings.
When the bearings and sleeve is removed you can se the how the bearings are fitted inside the frame.
When I put in the new bearings I put them in the freezer for 30-60min. and I used a heat gun to gently heat up the swing arm around where the bearings belong. Used some grease on the bearings and sleeve before mounting and a rubber hammer to make them flush. DO NOT FORGET to put in the sleeve before you put on the second bearing..
RIx: With this setup I had 90kph+ on the fighter. I think I have to restrict the speed limit to mabe 35kph. The problem is that you don't dare to go faster. It's like having a old fiat panda with a rear mounted V8 and three adults in the back seat all the time..
Another thing. Someone was talking about bearing change on the swing arm on the fighter. I just did a change on those, the bearings is NSK 6301v. It was not that hard when you got the first one out, but I had to use a hammer and a screwdriver to knock the first one into pieces so I could manage to get out the other one in one piece. Did this by removing the plastic seal and then hammering through thenetal band that secures the ballbearing, I removed the metal and managed to kick out one of the balls then the inner parts came out of it self. In the middle there is a sleeve that make shure you don't pull stress on any of the bearings.
Then I used a 20 socket with an extension to kick out the other complete bearing. Changed socket to 22 and kicked out the outer ring of the first bearing.
this is all I needed to remove the bearings.
When the bearings and sleeve is removed you can se the how the bearings are fitted inside the frame.
When I put in the new bearings I put them in the freezer for 30-60min. and I used a heat gun to gently heat up the swing arm around where the bearings belong. Used some grease on the bearings and sleeve before mounting and a rubber hammer to make them flush. DO NOT FORGET to put in the sleeve before you put on the second bearing..
Thanks fsmuggen. You are a pioneer...the first to attempt this AFAIK. Definitely a point of reference I'm sure many, including myself, will utilise.
Cheers
Cheers
arcticfly
100 W
It's funny how we think we bought the best bike when buying the Stealth, and all that is left from the original bike is the frame and gearbox\sclumpf. And the back brake in my case... 
Bahahaha...very good point.arcticfly said:It's funny how we think we bought the best bike when buying the Stealth, and all that is left from the original bike is the frame and gearbox\sclumpf. And the back brake in my case...
Also in my case very few parts haven't yet been replaced by better ones, repaired under warranty, repaired by myself, or ditched cause they broke are;
Handlebars
Seat-post
Schlumpf - Has some issues though.
Front Chain-ring
Cranks
CA - No longer on the Fighter...and has a dead vertical pixel line.
Throttle
Stem
Everything else...including the frame and swing-arm has been replaced!
These bikes might be the best...for the money, but I can see plenty of room for improvement...and indeed Stealth are improving with the latest versions, so they are still the best off the shelf e bikes for the money IMO.
Cheers
Rix
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arcticfly said:It's funny how we think we bought the best bike when buying the Stealth, and all that is left from the original bike is the frame and gearbox\sclumpf. And the back brake in my case...
The frame, gearbox/schlumpf, swingarms are the key foundations of our awesome machines. We could take most of the other components and put them on any MTB frame with some modifications but it wouldn't be as good as what we got. I know I have tried, it doesn't work as good.
remf
100 kW
Exactly Rick, all those other bits are just candles on the cake which we all replace or accumulate from year to year while trying to pretend the oldest ones never existed cos they burnt out. No big deal putting new candles on it.
Ariderslife
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Howdy,
i just picked up a new stealth fighter (pretty sure its Hyena's old bike) #131
i have a stealth bomber in the garage too! but in loan to me so i can make some videos etc.
Here are some videos:
[youtube]BgWQ0vWmz_A[/youtube]
[youtube]YwEWp07ElWk[/youtube]
Side-note,
Is there a way i can make the fighter's throttle more aggressive, i hate this wind-on power curve, i need that instant snappy power for wheelies
i just picked up a new stealth fighter (pretty sure its Hyena's old bike) #131
i have a stealth bomber in the garage too! but in loan to me so i can make some videos etc.
Here are some videos:
[youtube]BgWQ0vWmz_A[/youtube]
[youtube]YwEWp07ElWk[/youtube]
Side-note,
Is there a way i can make the fighter's throttle more aggressive, i hate this wind-on power curve, i need that instant snappy power for wheelies
Rix
100 TW
Ariderslife said:
Welcome to the thread Arider, I was wondering when you would show up here. I seen some of your vids when you tested the Bomber and Fighter. I specifically remember when you over shot the corner on a section of single track when riding the Bomber, that was funny :lol: Anyway, your throttle response can be manipulated with some controller programming value changes. One of the things that can be done is increasing your dc input ration to phase out put ratio. I am not to savvy with this stuff as I haven't done it myself, I pay people much smart than myself to do this, which BTW Allex is working on something very nice for next build. PM Hyena or Kepler, they know all about this. I think there is some settings in the CA you can change, I haven't ran a CA in a while, but its probably under advanced menu settings.
(moderator edit: references/questions regarding spammy ad moved to that ad's new thread in for sale section).
Allex
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Yes Rix, got your motor.
The weight is about the same as for that little kid.
Phase wire upgrade so you can run some more juice through it with you Max-e controller. Green one is stock, about 13/14AWG. New one will be Turnigy 12AWG.
Should be good for about 100DC amps, and around 150 in peak for short burst
Stock Bearings are 6003RS on both sides. But Rick wants them swapped for a pair of NSKs
I will order a pair of NSK 6003-2RSH, but they dont come cheap, about 12bucks a piece here locally.
Maybe I will just order them from Germany(cheaper), but this will taker longer.
The weight is about the same as for that little kid.
Phase wire upgrade so you can run some more juice through it with you Max-e controller. Green one is stock, about 13/14AWG. New one will be Turnigy 12AWG.
Should be good for about 100DC amps, and around 150 in peak for short burst
Stock Bearings are 6003RS on both sides. But Rick wants them swapped for a pair of NSKs
I will order a pair of NSK 6003-2RSH, but they dont come cheap, about 12bucks a piece here locally.
Maybe I will just order them from Germany(cheaper), but this will taker longer.
The spammy for sale posts are all moved to the for sale section where such things must go.
To everyone: Please don't post items for sale outside that section, and if you see them don't reply to them, report the post so they can be moved without having to also move or edit all of your replies, too.
To everyone: Please don't post items for sale outside that section, and if you see them don't reply to them, report the post so they can be moved without having to also move or edit all of your replies, too.
Rix
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Thanks for hooking my up Allex and doing the mods for me, I want to be ready to go when I began my next build. Right now I am fighting getting the TC4080 to fit the Fighter. I really don't relish the idea of cutting the rear disk brake bracket and moving it over 4mm. It actually lines up without the disk spacer, but the caliper rubs on the side cover. Need that extra couple of mm. Will get it sorted though. ///edit///Is that your baby boy? Cute kid. Got some kudo points from my GF for buying the motor from a guy that has a baby boy.
Rix
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remf said:
Very well said Remf, that what I meant to say.
Samd
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Rix said:bigbore said:Longer trasmission on the Bomber
I have tried the freewheel that fits the MXUS 3000 but do not fit on the Crystalyte 5403 because the inner diameter of the freewheel is too small
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=63142&p=980571&hilit=freewheel#p980571
Anybody have an advice to find a 12T or 14T freewheel to exchange the 16T that I currently have on the Bomber?
Hey Cilindro Grande, If the standard freewheel on the 5403 is too big for the MXUS, that's telling me that the MXUS uses a "BMX Free Wheel" instead of a single speed mountain bike free wheel. I am not 100% sure, but I think this is the case. I will have the MXUS 4t in my hands in about a month or two. I can let you know then.
Rix, the 12T freewheels I have in the for sale thread/my fleabay listing certainly do fit my MXUS 4k motors, as well as standard Clytes like 4080's and TC80100s. There's one on PRW's crown in my shed right now. When I sell a MXUS 4T in Australia I generally get asked to supply a 12 tooth freewheel. All of these motors take the standard bike freewheel diameter, not a BMX one.
The problem is that stealth have beefed up their axle shoulders to about 19mm to compensate for the renowned Clyte grade of steel used and this extra ~1mm on the shoulder wont fit the 12T freewheel. So the bad news is that all the stealths I've tried won't take a smaller freewheel due to the thicker shoulder. I am unsure of when stealth starter this larger diameter - maybe it is year dependant?
Hey ariderslife - was wondering if you'd taken the plunge on that fighter - well done. Was wondering if you'd stagger into here soon!
Rix
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Samd said:Rix said:bigbore said:Longer trasmission on the Bomber
I have tried the freewheel that fits the MXUS 3000 but do not fit on the Crystalyte 5403 because the inner diameter of the freewheel is too small
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=63142&p=980571&hilit=freewheel#p980571
Anybody have an advice to find a 12T or 14T freewheel to exchange the 16T that I currently have on the Bomber?
Hey Cilindro Grande, If the standard freewheel on the 5403 is too big for the MXUS, that's telling me that the MXUS uses a "BMX Free Wheel" instead of a single speed mountain bike free wheel. I am not 100% sure, but I think this is the case. I will have the MXUS 4t in my hands in about a month or two. I can let you know then.
Rix, the 12T freewheels I have in the for sale thread/my fleabay listing certainly do fit my MXUS 4k motors, as well as standard Clytes like 4080's and TC80100s. There's one on PRW's crown in my shed right now. When I sell a MXUS 4T in Australia I generally get asked to supply a 12 tooth freewheel. All of these motors take the standard bike freewheel diameter, not a BMX one.
The problem is that stealth have beefed up their axle shoulders to about 19mm to compensate for the renowned Clyte grade of steel used and this extra ~1mm on the shoulder wont fit the 12T freewheel. So the bad news is that all the stealths I've tried won't take a smaller freewheel due to the thicker shoulder. I am unsure of when stealth starter this larger diameter - maybe it is year dependant?
Hey ariderslife - was wondering if you'd taken the plunge on that fighter - well done. Was wondering if you'd stagger into here soon!
Thanks for clarifying that for me, I suspected as much, but now I am sure.
pendragon8000
100 kW
Legend. Looks like you've cut the fins? I'll do you a new one in black with 12 fins once I have the measurements.Rix said:
Ive just collected data for my h3540 in the real world with no UDI. Soon ill have comparison with UDI effectivness.
Ariderslife
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Rix said:
Cheers man
Samd said:Rix said:bigbore said:Longer trasmission on the Bomber
I have tried the freewheel that fits the MXUS 3000 but do not fit on the Crystalyte 5403 because the inner diameter of the freewheel is too small
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=63142&p=980571&hilit=freewheel#p980571
Anybody have an advice to find a 12T or 14T freewheel to exchange the 16T that I currently have on the Bomber?
Hey Cilindro Grande, If the standard freewheel on the 5403 is too big for the MXUS, that's telling me that the MXUS uses a "BMX Free Wheel" instead of a single speed mountain bike free wheel. I am not 100% sure, but I think this is the case. I will have the MXUS 4t in my hands in about a month or two. I can let you know then.
Rix, the 12T freewheels I have in the for sale thread/my fleabay listing certainly do fit my MXUS 4k motors, as well as standard Clytes like 4080's and TC80100s. There's one on PRW's crown in my shed right now. When I sell a MXUS 4T in Australia I generally get asked to supply a 12 tooth freewheel. All of these motors take the standard bike freewheel diameter, not a BMX one.
The problem is that stealth have beefed up their axle shoulders to about 19mm to compensate for the renowned Clyte grade of steel used and this extra ~1mm on the shoulder wont fit the 12T freewheel. So the bad news is that all the stealths I've tried won't take a smaller freewheel due to the thicker shoulder. I am unsure of when stealth starter this larger diameter - maybe it is year dependant?
Hey ariderslife - was wondering if you'd taken the plunge on that fighter - well done. Was wondering if you'd stagger into here soon!
Yes that's the problem. Here are the diameters I measured on the 12T freewheel and on the Crystalyte 5403 motor axle:
Samd do you know if a 14T freewheel is available to mount on my motor?
Samd
10 MW
I'll do my best to find out. Its such a shame. Just dropped one onto a crown and into a phasor.
Must be a custom axle on stealth. Happy to refund it and appreciate the effort you went to, got there quick!
I'm holding one in my hand and wondering if you couldn't dremel/file 0.6mm off the wall on the internal surface. So close!!!
Must be a custom axle on stealth. Happy to refund it and appreciate the effort you went to, got there quick!
I'm holding one in my hand and wondering if you couldn't dremel/file 0.6mm off the wall on the internal surface. So close!!!
Samd said:
I have already been refunded for the 12T freewheel.
I spoke to a mechanic that works on lathes and I was told from him that there is very few material to machine, he thought the freewheel could be destroyed while trying to enlarge that 18.38 internal diameter.
Rix
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Samd said:
Rix
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pendragon8000 said:
You will notice the UDI works, just lifting the wheel off the ground and WOT, I can hear the impeller fins suck wind towards the vent holes. I think this is a winner for the air cooled folks that don't want to run small fans or go with oil cooling. BTW, I didn't modify the fins. That's the way to they arrived. WIll get those measurements to you soon.
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