Fechter's Throttle Interface for RC controllers

I tried building a Fechter current limiter back in the Visforvoltage days and my electronics skills failed me miserably. I am glad you guys are working toward getting one that has a traced board and everything. I would love to be on the pre order list for this!
 
Hi,

The HV110 is supposed to ship from Nevada on Monday so Richard should have it by Wednesday or Thursday.

I thought I should post the money received.

This is a Paypal Screenshot of the payments received:
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Payments from (in order):
Deecanio
Michael A
David R
Michael K
Benjamin C
Matt

Promised for Monday (no rush):
Ypedal-------------Feb. 23, 2009-------------$20.00 USD==========-$1.08

So I received (counting Ypedal's payment):
$190.00

Fees (counting Ypedal's fee):
-$6.52

Net Total:
$183.48

HV110 Total:
$214.97

Difference:
$31.49

I was planning on donating $15. I'm fine with $31.49.

But if we missed anyone who wants to donate a little or if someone else wants to increase their donation by a few dollars (not Matt or Deecanio - $50 is enough) that's OK too.

Thanks for the contributions!

Mitch
 
Hi,

skydog said:
Put me in for $20.
Rob



Perfect!

Sending a PM now.

Thanks!

Mitch
 
Very cool!

Thanks for doing this, Guys. I am very happy to see the generousity here.

I am looking forward to using one of these on my latest monster build, so anything to help this project along is great! :mrgreen:

Matt
 
Hi All,

Ditto on Matts coment.

Nice one Mitch, enough messing about :lol: Sooner Richard gets one of these babys to test the better off we all are !!

Rob, sorry for delay in replying to your mail, up to my ears at work at the mo - i'll get to it tonight.
Turns out after moaning about my esc not turning up it is here in the UK.
I had to chase it up throught the local post office to find it's in a town 5 miles or so from me with £22 still to pay :shock: import duty or some bollox, like i haven't paid enough tax already!!!
anyway they didn't even try to deliver it as it has an outstanding fee, so i said to the guy well if you didn't card me and you didn't call me and you didn't write to me how the hell am i supposed to know you have it? "errrrrr well you should have got a letter" meh should have, could have, didn't have, you numpty :evil: :evil: :evil:
Anyway looks like i will get my esc tomorrow once i drive over there,show ID, pay MORE money sheeesh, i hope your postal service is better in the states, Richard could be waiting forever!!!!
Must appologise to JRH too :oops: :oops: :oops:


cheers all that helped with this, you guys rock!!! 8)


cheers,

D
 
Hi,

Is the HV110 a plug-and-play with the factory default settings for use with Ebikes and Richard's unit or do the parameters need tweaking? For example does he need to modify the current limiting settings in the esc to properly test that function on his interface.

What hardware and software are required to set it up? What does it cost? What platforms does the SW run on?

Should setting up the HV series controllers for Ebike use (and possibly Richard's Interface) be a separate thread?
 
good question Mitch,

i was hoping that we would have a thread for the 110's parameters and software guide, hopefully it will pop up soon :wink:

D
 
Hi D,

deecanio said:
Hi All,

Turns out after moaning about my esc not turning up it is here in the UK.

I had to chase it up through the local post office to find it's in a town 5 miles or so from me with £22 still to pay :shock: import duty or some bollox, like i haven't paid enough tax already!!!

anyway they didn't even try to deliver it as it has an outstanding fee, so i said to the guy well if you didn't card me and you didn't call me and you didn't write to me how the hell am i supposed to know you have it? "errrrrr well you should have got a letter" meh should have, could have, didn't have, you numpty :evil: :evil: :evil:

cheers,

D

Was your phone number on the package?

If not it might be a good idea to make sure its included on future packages containing merchandise from the U.S.
 
deecanio said:
good question Mitch,

i was hoping that we would have a thread for the 110's parameters and software guide, hopefully it will pop up soon :wink:

D

Basically you set it for "Airplane, fixed endpoint, low timing"

There is supposedly built in current limiting. But, that is a crock. Also, it is not adjustable.

You will need to set the low voltage cutoff also. I always set mine at a low cutoff so I do not have to worry about it cutting out.

Matt
 
Hi,

recumpence said:
deecanio said:
good question Mitch,

i was hoping that we would have a thread for the 110's parameters and software guide, hopefully it will pop up soon :wink:

D

Basically you set it for "Airplane, fixed endpoint, low timing"

There is supposedly built in current limiting. But, that is a crock. Also, it is not adjustable.

You will need to set the low voltage cutoff also. I always set mine at a low cutoff so I do not have to worry about it cutting out.

Matt

Richard should test with those settings?

Does he need any HW or SW to do that?

If so maybe someone can either set his up or do a swap?
 
how do you set that though Matt? whats the nuts and bolts of the software, free download/comes with?

Cheers,

D
 
Ahh, you need the USB link with software. It is cheap and easy to use.

It can be programmed with the throttle, also. But that is a pain.

I think Richard will not need to be able to program it for his testing purposes, though.

Matt
 
recumpence said:
Ahh, you need the USB link with software. It is cheap and easy to use.

It can be programmed with the throttle, also. But that is a pain.

I think Richard will not need to be able to program it for his testing purposes, though.

Matt

I ended up programming it with the throttle. Even though "it's a pain", it only needs to be set once and I don't believe the extra $25 for the USB software is worth it.

But the only thing I changed was disabling the brake.
 
The software is free, and it allows you to change more parameters, but for what we need, I think the throttle set mode can be used. I'll have to go look at some of the other settings, to see if any of them apply, like changing the PWM rate and/or the timing, both of which are usually motor-type dependent.

-- Gary
 
GGoodrum said:
The software is free, and it allows you to change more parameters, but for what we need, I think the throttle set mode can be used. I'll have to go look at some of the other settings, to see if any of them apply, like changing the PWM rate and/or the timing, both of which are usually motor-type dependent.

-- Gary

Wait, so what costs money again? Is it the USB cable link that costs $25? LOL. Talk about an expensive cable.
 
In my opionion, it's $25 well spent. Does Richard need it for testing? I think testing will tell us.

I want to see this circuit reach a set cutoff point under load and perform as advertised. If it does that under the same conditions as I'm going to use my Phoenix, that's much more valuable to me.

Why complain about another $25 when you just dropped $225+ on a controller, whatever your motor cost, and then batteries, connectors, drivetrain, tires, bike, charger, etc?

The adjustability made my controller much more useable, and knowing you got the settings right by seeing them in black and white on a screen is worth it too.

I'll save the rest of my commentary for the setup thread - but if Richard's testing will benefit from having one of these, let's chip in and get him one, yes? Who's with me?
 
swbluto said:
Wait, so what costs money again? Is it the USB cable link that costs $25? LOL. Talk about an expensive cable.

It is more than a simple cable. There's a small board at the end that converts the USB data to a form the ESC can read through the 3-wire throttle input. Here's a link: http://www.castlecreations.com/products/castle_link.html

Also, you use this interface for downloading/installing new revisions of the controller software, which you might do more often. They usually do several revisions a year, or at least they used to. Anyway, the CastleLink software lets you manage that, plus it makes it much easier to do the programming. You can save whatever setup we decide is best for our ebike applications, and just load it in. As soon as I figure out what those settings want to be, I will post a file in Mitch's new HV110 setup thread.

No need to get one of these for Richard. I've got four or five sitting around here somewhere, so I'll send him one. He can download the latest software.

-- Gary
 
northernmike said:
In my opionion, it's $25 well spent. Does Richard need it for testing? I think testing will tell us.

I want to see this circuit reach a set cutoff point under load and perform as advertised. If it does that under the same conditions as I'm going to use my Phoenix, that's much more valuable to me.

Why complain about another $25 when you just dropped $225+ on a controller, whatever your motor cost, and then batteries, connectors, drivetrain, tires, bike, charger, etc?

The adjustability made my controller much more useable, and knowing you got the settings right by seeing them in black and white on a screen is worth it too.

I'll save the rest of my commentary for the setup thread - but if Richard's testing will benefit from having one of these, let's chip in and get him one, yes? Who's with me?

Why complain about getting stabbed another time after you've been stabbed 10 times before? I'm sure Caesar didn't really mind the 11th one. Why would the camel care about the 11435th straw that broke his back when 11434th was letting him hold out fine?

Now if it's the convenience and such that's worth the extra 25 dollars, go right ahead. I just happen to be one of those cheap-skates out in the world that can do fine with a simple throttle to change one measly value as it's not exactly hard for me to follow instructions and listen to and count the number of beeps one time. I actually got an HV85 since HV110 was more expensive(To buy and to replace under the warranty), haha. But, yes, I made sure the motor's current draw didn't exceed the controller's limit so it was "safe"(Or it's so far been.).

Also, it didn't seem like the castle software had many features I'd actually use besides disabling the brake. As far as I know, it doesn't offer any sort of current limiting, current limiting based on the controller's temperature or customized throttle ramps(Well, it does... I think but I doubt it's the kind scooters would find useful.).
 
Well, after adjusting the throttle response, PWM rate, low voltage cutoff and brake in about 5 seconds, and updating the software, I noticed my particular motor performed MUCH differently, and more to my liking.

Being able to "tweak" is important (and entertaining), to me.

Sorry to come off a little brash. I just have a hard time understanding "cheapskates". :wink:

I also have a hard time seeing the purchase of quality products from good people to build a great bike as a series of knife-wounds! :shock:

And Gary, you're a gentleman and a scholar. Many thanks!
 
northernmike said:
I also have a hard time seeing the purchase of quality products from good people to build a great bike as a series of knife-wounds! :shock:

According to the cheapskate's mentality, spending all that money is equivalent to bleeding money. Now where is all that bleeding coming from? Hehe.

But, like a masochist, the money I did bleed out was money well bled.
:lol:
 
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