Full Face Helmet

We just repealed mandatory helmet laws in michigan, Its weird seeing all the helmetless heads out on the highway....I am a firm beliver in dressing for the crash. hough I rarely wore one out on a moped,I never throw a leg over a motorcycle without one.

that said there are many fine helets out there with eu or snell ratings (better than DOT) that are light,cool, & far better than any bicycle helmet.
I really like these for style & comfort out on the steets:
http://www.nexx-usa.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1732


If your going to ever push your riding or seek perfomance (& a 50mph bike falls in that catogory) look at the best liner technoligy in helmets out there.
Kahli protechtive's is that in my opinion... I sought these guys out at the dealers show after reading about the equipment....met the owner & had a nice chat.....then to my suprize, He mailed a pr of helmets to me to wear on the track for my 2013 asslult on another championship. So call me biased.....but I was going to buy one, espescialy after meeting the Kahli crew.

Its moto flash styling but if your head hits the ground....this is what you want on your head:
http://www.kaliprotectives.com/moto/technology/
 
I’ve damaged myself plenty on far lower speed runs in many types of vehicles off-road. If it were my wallet and brain case, I’d splurge for the DOT helmet. One crash is all it takes; why risk it? Cops might stare, but I’ve never been pulled over for it under the full light of sun. I passed a CHiP last summer at 33 mph on US-101 freeway south of Eureka; he never pulled out of his coffee-spot, er… parking spot: Scared me at first, but then I got used to it. I figured it must have been that I was wearing the proper equipment. Just a guess…

Here's the one I ended up using.

Nil molesta, KF 8)
 
I'm still looking for the perfect e-bike helmet.

I've tried the AVG blade and found it too bulky for my daily commute.

Anyone tried one of these?:
http://www.osbeusa.com/categories/Ski-Helmets/Proton-Senior/
Looks like it would be a bit lighter than a scooter helmet and comes with 2 visors. Not sure if its safe to use a ski helmet on the road though.

I'm finding I'm still really put off by the big fat drops of Wellington rain mostly because of them driving into my face when I'm wearing my bike helmet.
 
Certianly should be good for up to the speeds people ski at. For me, that was about 60mph at times. I'd say a good one for a winter commute. I use a snowboard helmet in cold weather. Comes with nice ear muffs built in.
 
Did you try the German e-bike helmets with ear pads that fit good, and look great. But quite price at 120-140 euros. Here'e couple pictures . you also get goggles.
 

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recumbent said:
Did you try the German e-bike helmets with ear pads that fit good, and look great. But quite price at 120-140 euros. Here'e couple pictures . you also get goggles.

Where can I buy one of those?
 
http://www.kaskhelmets.com/Products/City-Bike/KASK-URBAN-LIFESTYLE

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My major gripe about any helmet is what to do with it once you get to where youare going..lock it to the bike and it gets smashed or cut off ir damaged in someway, or it gets soaking wet...carry it withyou on a night out, leave it in a pub/bar and forget it, get it stolen, or carry it everywhere with you . to me they are jsut a pain in the arse. I have three or 4, and expensive Chris Hoy track helmet
http://www.themellowvelo.com/shop/page/12?shop_param=

expensive, had the visor broken off, and £150 for a new one.
 
Motorcycle folks figured this out 50 years ago.... :D

Find a helmet you like and pop-rivet three snaps onto it using a backing washer inside (slide washer between shell and foam liner). Then buy just about any motorcycle visor(s) you like - from small sun visors to full face bubbles for the winter. I used SS snaps, but the chrome plated brass ones available in hardware stores will do just fine.
 
emergence said:
Don't most motorcycle visors have a proprietary flip up mounting system?
(Ohhh - so you want it to flip, too! :D )

Well, yes, they do. But there are always generic counterparts that perhaps don't look quite as integrated but are still pretty nice though.
A quick Google for 'helmet visor flip' turned up this.

A quick search of ebay 'visor helmet flip snap' turns up some pretty good half-face alternatives.

This one looks pretty interesting as well - might be pretty fair quality.

As you can see, we are talking pocket change for these, so you can afford to spring for a couple and just use one that seems the nicest or fits the best.

Generally, the two outer snaps have a slot so the snap can be positioned for different manufacturers' products. I measured the snaps on one of my Bell cycle helmets and it turned out that this was about halfway in the visor slots for two generic visors as well as a genuine Bell visor. So - I used the midpoint position when I drilled. Most important is to test fit so the visor lies flat even if it doesn't quite follow the contour of the helmet edge exactly (you can fudge this a bit). The curvature deviation isn't noticable when you have the visor in place, and it will stop the visor from straining in the snaps. Drill the center hole first and attach the snap there, then the outer snap positioning will pretty much take care of itself.

I used some small stainless washers (hardware store) for backing washers since they were very thin and larger diameter than official pop rivet backing washers. The trick to setting a pop rivet down in the recess of the snap is to slide a small nut onto the rivet pin between the rivet head and the tool nosepiece. This will allow the tool to pull against the rivet instead of the snap. I added a sun visor to a Bell Faction and it came out well. (Not the best helmet choice for aggressive or high speed riding, but adequate if you're puttering along at bicycle speeds...)

I was actually going to post about this little fun project but your post beat me to it :)
 
Thanks! Just ordered one of those face shields and I'll give it a go.

Would be great to see some pics of your helmet project!
 
Here you go:

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I was planning on the old standby bubble for winter, but took a look at those nice curvey half-face flip-up shields for the rain. By checking things out in the mirror, it doesn't quite look like they'll clear my glasses. I may need to get one of the half-shields with an integral sun visor where the shield comes down from the outer edge of the visor. You got me spending money though :D
 
Thanks Teklektik! Pretty cool that you can clip on a peak or a faceshield. Looking around it seems like the Faction is a good option for this kind of setup. Or possibly a Giro Flack. The skate style helmets have the flat section across the forehead that this type of mounting requires.

What is even betterer about this setup is that I could actually keep the visor in my bag and just clip it on if it gets super cold, windy or rainy. With a faction helmet the whole setup is super cheap.

The Fingers - I'm talking about face shield visors. Though there is nothing classier than a baseball cap/cycle helmet combo ;)
 
Yep - the bag o' visors for the weather du jour is pretty handy. If you go this route I recommend getting a sun visor so you can just tip your head down a bit to avoid being blinded as you pedal into the sunset... The one above is a 'Bell 3 Snap Retro Visor' (Amazon, eBay, etc). The generic ones tend to run a little larger, but your preference may vary :wink:
 
OK here is my go at making a face shield/visor helmet, which is working out great so far. It's a Bern Brentwood snowboard helmet with winter liner (can get summer ones or just use a generic bike helmet pad kit) with a $10 visor off e-bay. I've just zip tied it in place for them moment while I try it out. Thanks for the tips teklektic.
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Doesn't look too out of place on a bike, light and comfy. Protection is good, very tough and back of neck is protected. Also the face shield would hopefully offer a little bit of face protection if I ever get a door prize - the top corner of a car door flung open in front of me is a constant fear round town.

Yet to try it out in the rain.
 
I decided to get an open face DOT motorcycle helmet with visor, for riding when below 60 deg F. When it was cold and windy my eyes would tear up a lot and often have dust get around my sunglasses. This is a non-issue now. This large front visor is great, and I still get good ventilated on my lower face for good breathing. $40 shipped is CHEAP
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004TA4OFY/ref=pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_SC_dp_1

Construction seems fine, it's comfortable. My only issue is that it's hard pulling it over my ears (but my ears stick out a bit more than normal). Hearing is impaired a fair bit too. So if you rely on hearing cars approaching, that could be an issue (as with any helmet that covers your ears.

The visor takes some force to slide, but no complaints. It certainly won't move when not desired. I am able to wear sunglasses underneath.

Range of vision - I don't feel I've lost any peripheral vision (big concern).

Weight - noticeable heavier than a bike helmet when wearing, but not an issue. 2.2lbs. 0.6 for bike helmet

In short, this helmet has changed the game of riding in winter. I can't tell you how happy I am to have it. With some good windproof clothing, it makes ebiking in cold weather just as pleasant as 70 degrees. Of course, the added protection is always a good thing. Though I still wear my bmx helmet when it's 60-75 degrees, or my mtb helmet when warmer.
 
when i am riding with a ff mc helmet, i can actually hear cars and such approaching *better* than before, because the windnoise is greatly diminished.
 
amberwolf said:
when i am riding with a ff mc helmet, i can actually hear cars and such approaching *better* than before, because the windnoise is greatly diminished.


Hmmm, that's interesting. I definitely enjoy not having the wind noise. Maybe it's because my helmet padding covers my ears more.
 
Rain and cold protection..the only reason I would wear a helmet in normal use any day...till the nanny state do gooder interfering muth ..f***ers make helmets law..then as soon as that is passed they will start on the next think..body armour etc. !00 years time you wont be able to walk down the street without body protection
 
NeilP said:
Rain and cold protection..the only reason I would wear a helmet in normal use any day...till the nanny state do gooder interfering muth ..f***ers make helmets law..then as soon as that is passed they will start on the next think..body armour etc. !00 years time you wont be able to walk down the street without body protection

I would be the last person to question anyones right to decide what they want to wear. A lot of helmets are a joke at best and many people don't even know how to put them on. I went riding with a friend this summer and he had a new helmet (his first). I had to tell him he had it on backword. He argued until a female rider came over and told him he had it on backword (really made his day). But even the crapyest helmet worn incorrectly is a lot better then nothing at all.

Being one who de-assed a cycle at 60mph and used his hands, knees and oh yeah my head to break the fall I'm damn glad I had a helmet on. My wrists and r/knee were broken but my head did fine.....well it was after I wokeup. So there's no way I would ever ride a bike or cycle again without a helmet. I know most don't ride a bike at high speed but slamming your head on the ground at any speed is not a good thing. And while you have the right to decide if a helmet is for you....who takes care of your family when your brain is splattered on the pavement? Or who pays for your care when your unable to care for yourself? The goverment (me)? That's why I think the goverment has a right to require a person to wear a minimum protection. It limits the Gov. need to support you if injured. Just an opinion...

Bob
 
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