Handling the fallout from Covid-19

[Dauntless]

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/08/health/coronavirus-vaccine-race-intl/

A pretty quick look at where vaccines work is at. Still probably more than some have read in years. I'm curious how the Chinese military vaccine has been doing, but of course we'll NEVER hear anything.

 

[Dauntless]

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[goatman]

and people think im crazy for not watching mainstream media :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey John get your Bunker, you too leftiebiker and dont forget Ed maybe you guys can do a group buy

 

[Dauntless]

and people think im crazy for not watching mainstream media :lol: :lol: :lol:

They should all share one bunker. It should be a law. cameras and sound for the audience at home.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/08/luxe-quarantine-lives-of-silicon-valley-elite

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[Just_Ed]

and people think im crazy for not watching mainstream media :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey John get your Bunker, you too leftiebiker and dont forget Ed maybe you guys can do a group buy

I've been in the bunkers of past wars. Stood in front of the viewing windows looking at the piles of human bones stacked 10-12 feet deep. Literally thousands of souls, discarded like trash.
I've worked in bunkers, housing implements of mass destruction.

Not watching mainstream news, (any news) is like sticking ones head in the sand. I force myself to watch different news outlets. It is not easy,

If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

When Trump says that the press is the 'enemy of the people' it should scare the hell out of you. How can anyone say such a thing and call themselves a patriot, while living in the land of 'liberty'.That is what a man wanting to install an authoritarian government, with himself as the supreme leader would say. How can anyone lend support to someone that is trying to overthrow our democracy, and replace it with an autocracy. But then I understand why, (I think), its because of those that only receive their information from only biased sources, can have but one brainwashed view of reality.

 

[Dauntless]

When Trump says that the press is the 'enemy of the people' it should scare the hell out of you.

No, when the press stands at a burning building, the dead and the injured about, calling it a "Peaceful Protest," THAT is what should scare the hell out of people. And to many it does. It grows scarier as the press attack those of us who see the emperor has no new clothes. Pulitzer prizes are handed out for complete fiction, such as the socalled 'Russiagate' coverage that is PROVEN to have been made up by the newspapers winning these awards. And they continue to claim that they are somehow the protectors of the truth. THAT is scaring the hell out of people FOR REAL. But pretending we should somehow be afraid of Trump is just more fake news.

 

[nicobie]

Ed, Daunty here is a perfect example of what you are talking about. He is definitely a proud alumni of Utube (University of the Tube).

 

[Dauntless]

Ah, which is your way of saying we should ADMIRE your imperviousness to learning ANYTHING about ANYTHING or knowing what's going on? Alumni? Don't you just wish they'd let you in in the first place?

 

[Dauntless]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-31/coronavirus-covid-oxford-vaccine-dividing-christians-anti-vaxxer/12612196

 

[goatman]

according to the cdc only 9210 americans have died from covid.

https://michaelsavage.com/shock-report-cdc-quietly-updates-covid-19-numbers-only-9210-americans-died-from-covid-19-alone/

 

[JackFlorey]

according to the cdc only 9210 americans have died from covid.

Nope sorry that's a lie. Twitter has removed that lie per their policy on fake news tweets.

 

[goatman]

according to the cdc only 9210 americans have died from covid.

Nope sorry that's a lie. Twitter has removed that lie per their policy on fake news tweets.

Twitter? you gotta be kidding that you believe anything twitter says, thats like going to snopes or the ministry of truth

you can always go to cdc:

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. For data on comorbidities

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI

 

[JackFlorey]

you can always go to cdc:

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.

Ah, yes! Notice that they do not say that only 9210 people died from COVID-19. They say that there were other comorbidities in most COVID-19 cases in the US. This is because most people in the US have conditions that make them more susceptible to COVID. For example:

69% are overweight; 32% are obese
46% have high blood pressure
48% have heart disease
8% have asthma
10% have diabetes

Combine all those (some overlap of course) and 94% of Americans have one of those risk factors - so they get listed as comorbidities. Those people still died of COVID-19 - they just had something else that made them more susceptible to that disease.

 

[Dauntless]

Fake news is better than a federal Ministry of Truth
-Washington Examiner

Twitter? you gotta be kidding that you believe anything twitter says, thats like going to snopes or the ministry of truth

No no, don't lump Snopes in with Twitter or the EU 'High Level Experts Group.' As long as we have those and the kids in college trying to decide what people are allowed to believe we NEED Snopes, even if it's not 100% reliable.

Dang, Bill, that's quite a job of spin doctoring. Good thing you're not a real doctor. Or a real Jack.

 

[ScooterMan101]

I have been watching what is happening in some places of this country , Here is a great video of someone who shows you the Reality of living in San Francisco for years , what has happened to his wife's business , his car ( 9 times ! ) and what he and hundreds of thousands ( Millions really ) of other people around the U.S. are going through .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijKpSJlPV8

 

[john61ct]

Realistic COVID-19 Vaccine Timeline & avoiding "Us First!" vaccine nationalism
https://youtu.be/j_8CINyQAVI

 

[markz]

Ontario and Quebec are getting hit hard, more crack downs today with area restrictions, almost seems like martial law where you are not free to roam. Our crackdown is your biz as usual probably need a few thousand cases a day per state to crack down hard in the USA. Texas has 3700 cases just today, ouch. About the same size as Canada, Texas 28M, Canada 34M and 1700 cases daily.

I have been watching what is happening in some places of this country , Here is a great video of someone who shows you the Reality of living in San Francisco for years , what has happened to his wife's business , his car ( 9 times ! ) and what he and hundreds of thousands ( Millions really ) of other people around the U.S. are going through .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijKpSJlPV8

 

[goatman]

aaaaaand how many died today?
how many tests are false positives?

whats the survival rate?

 

[markz]

13 Canada wide for Oct 1 for Canada, and 770 deaths for Oct 1 in USA.
A x9 factor would put Canada at 117 cases to equal population sizes.
38M vs 330M
https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/ca


https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/quebec-ontario-covid-19-wave-restrictions-return-73301325

Quebec reported 896 new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday, the province’s highest single-day tally in months.

“This situation has become critical,” Legault said. “We must act strongly right now.”

The measures will last from Oct. 1 to Oct. 28. Legault said there is a lot of community spread right now.

Williams said people became too casual as virus numbers improved and restrictions were relaxed in late August, and he urged them to now be more vigilant. The latest figures prompted Ontario’s hospitals to call on the government to reinstate restrictions.

 

[Balmorhea]

13 Canada wide for Oct 1 for Canada, and 770 deaths for Oct 1 in USA.
A x9 factor would put Canada at 117 cases to equal population sizes.
38M vs 330M

Canadia only 15% as awful/awesome as Murrica? That sounds about right.

Now if it were a tree pandemic, that would play to Canadia's strengths.

 

[markz]

tree pandemic, that would play to Canadia's strengths.

Lumber and pulp exports is an ongoing issue, always has been with the various presidents of amurika. Subsidies and such.

 

[ZeroEm]

by goatman » Oct 02 2020 12:52am

aaaaaand how many died today?
how many tests are false positives?

whats the survival rate?

As soon as you see FoxNews label you know 99.9% is a lie!
Here is a fact that is escaping most. If you get Covid-19 and don't die the damage to your body could leave you handicap. Will not be able to work or play sports may need care the rest of your life. Don't hear many talking about that! We have had more than 0.01% of under 18 die. The age group passing here shifts from month to month.

 

[markz]

As soon as you see FoxNews label you know 99.9% is a lie!

And CNN

Both Fox and CNN and all their allies are liars. Its unbearable to watch

 

[Dauntless]

As soon as you see FoxNews label you know 99.9% is a lie!

So you're saying Fox is better than the 100% MSNBC and CNN.

 

[john61ct]

CDC and WHO are being denialist about COVID's aerosol transmission.

Good resources on the latest facts emerging, kept up to date

https://kottke.org/20/10/how-to-protect-yourself-from-the-aerosol-spread-of-covid-19