I will be voting for Bernie Sanders

[Arlo1]

Programs that are socialist.
1 Hospitals
2 Fire departments
3 Health Care. My health car covers all I need other then dental and cost me $62 a month!
4 Highways.
5 Armys
6 Bridges.

Thing is you already live in a socialist society and you have 0 control over it. Hilary and Trump will just take your money and do what they want to help the elites because that's how is paying for them to get into office!

Here is 75 more things that are Socialist in Merica. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

 

[Chalo]

Although Bernie Sanders insists on referring to himself as a Socialist, that's simply a harkening back to the American Socialist party of yore. He's very much what Europeans would call a Social Democrat.

There's no room here for a Soviet style Socialist workers' revolution... unless the rich and powerful here continue to abuse their privilege and impede the normal political process from taking its course for another couple of generations. In that case, anything could happen.

 

[markz]

Bernie will NEVER win.

 

[Chalo]

Bernie will NEVER win.

He polls better against Trump than Hillary does, and she already beats Trump in projected voting.

The problem lies in convincing Democrats that they should nominate him instead of one of their own stalwarts. That will be somewhat more likely if Hillary enters the convention under indictment by the FBI.

If all you read is the Washington Post and the New York Times, it's understandable that you'd think what you just said. But talk to real people about how they're going to vote and you'll get a very different picture.

 

[Dauntless]

The ONLY PERSON WITH HOPE TO GET THE US OUT OF THE MESS YOU GUYS ARE IN IS BERNIE!

Comedy video. Wow, THERE is your reliable extreme left wing news source. But how can you turn against this man who RUSHES to their side to support these people even HE admits are so unpoplar? Have you no soul?

He can't, please take the time to speak with people from the USSR about how good socialism is. But since you won't listen to me anyway. . . .

People believe what they want to believe. In the 1980's the Reaganites argued angrily whenever it was brought up that Reagan continuously claimed that "93% of all smog is caused by green plants and trees." Oh, he raved on the health benefits of sulfur in the air. This for 2 years was part of his campaign spiel from 1978-80. Obamites deny that Obama ever claimed to be from Kenya, that he has a birth certificate there. Oh, the Dubyans when right on denying Dubyas' drunk driving arrest even after he stopped denying it and admitted it was true, admitting he was lying all along. At least he admitted it, Obama never did. Reagan never admitted he had alzheimer's. And people go right on believing whatever they want to believe. Like our annual tax revenues can be raised to cover the additional 18 trillion that Bernie wants to spend each year without us paying 7 times what we pay now, without the destruction of the whole world even beyond our own economy, yada yada yada.

Just remember one thing, the ism in the world that has received the least criticism compared to how much suffering and killing it has done is socialism. It is the most evil and depraving system ever created, please do not support this utterly evil system. Do you really hate your fellow human being so much?

Oh, Bernie DENIES being a socialist (Gripes that others call him that) in spite of his 50+ years of active support and membership of every major socialist/communist organization in America. And Bernie supporters believe him. And THAT is why this country is screwed up. I can't fix the supporters of Bernie, Dubya, O Duce, but I sure can enjoy watching them suffer that Trump is president. If he proves actually to be a good one that'll probably destroy them forever. This is gonna be. . .SO GOOOOOOOOOOOD! And if Trump really IS just as divided as this country is, how could it be possible to vote against him?

Oh, check this out. Laurel and Hardy pretending to risk life and limb on a skyscraper construction. When we gonna see Bernie do THAT?

 

[Arlo1]

The fact you guys even think trump would be remotely good as president is astonishing. Wow.

 

[Dauntless]

The fact you guys even think trump would be remotely good as president is astonishing. Wow.

No, what's astonishing is that there's people who act like Obama IS a good president. Or that Bernie was still in the race past February. Weird.

 

[Arlo1]

The fact you guys even think trump would be remotely good as president is astonishing. Wow.

No, what's astonishing is that there's people act like Obama IS a good president. Or that Bernie was still in the race past February. Weird.

You have not had a good president or even an opportunity for one until now. I also just read something about eliminating superdelegates.
Don't forget about the fraud with the voting system as always.

 

[Ratking]

The fact you guys even think trump would be remotely good as president is astonishing. Wow.

I never said that Trump is a good candidate, Rand Paul was. But he failed to be strong enough to deliver a clear anti war, pro freedom message. His father was much better at that, he should never tried to please everybody with his diluted stands.

I am just stating the obvious, people that think that socialism, or stealing from your neighbor is a good idea is people without any morals and lack the drive to stand for himself. It is a shame that grown ups need a nanny state that needs to regulate every step of your life. Trust me, I am living in Bernie Sanders utopia, Scandinavia, and it is not as you think. We would have been bankrupt a long time ago if it was not for the oil doping our nation is so fortunate to have. We are also a population of 5.5 million people. If you try to scale that up to a few hundred millions, you will see just how good that will work.

For every day that is passing, it is more and more clear how unjust a democracy really is. The state school have manipulated the people for 12-14 years and we are then forced to believe that we are free to choose what government we want, what a joke. And the minority is always bullied by the majority in a democracy. If 50.1% want something, the other 49.9% just have to bite the bullet. How is that a good system? As far as I can see, the only fair system is a minarchy, where the individual has sovereignty over his own body and property. As it is now, you are just cows, milked by the state for your capital.

 

[Dauntless]

I am just stating the obvious, people that think that socialism, or stealing from your neighbor is a good idea is people without any morals and lack the drive to stand for himself.

The only time some of these people will stop saying to take from others is if they win the lottery and others try to take it from them. Yeah, they worked hard buying that ticket. Like they worked hard voting for socialism when they voted 3 times in 20 years.

For every day that is passing, it is more and more clear how unjust a democracy really is.

Democracy lets you choose your own injustice, with the free speech to complain about it.

And the minority is always bullied by the majority in a democracy. If 50.1% want something, the other 49.9% just have to bite the bullet. How is that a good system?

What we got going now is the minority bullying the majority. They're bullying North Carolina for having a law that you have to use the correct restroom, the minority pressure groups want to force women in NC to have men in there with them, but they want to force ALL states to do that. And of course there's all the bullying that the minority who support Bernie are subjecting the majority who support Trump to. If the 7% want something they'll riot, break windows, put people in the hospital until they get it. The NAZI's called it things like 'The Night of Broken Glass,' etc. Your history classes neglected to tell you there weren't many NAZI's until they were in control then they forced people to join. They never got around to forcing unisex restrooms on people. The British on the other hand have had the 'Riot Act,' where the 93% just shoot the 7%, who suddenly swear off bullying. In the State of Texas they call it "One Riot, One Ranger." Once he gets six of them the rest can go home while he reloads and they can sin no more.

As far as I can see, the only fair system is a minarchy, where the individual has sovereignty over his own body and property. As it is now, you are just cows, milked by the state for your capital.

Did you mean the individual KING had sovereignty over your body and property? I always wonder how the current British monarchy compares to the traditional monarchies in history. I recall how the African Kings were up in arms when the Europeans DARED to ban slavery. "I seek three things from you," One African King declared, "Guns, alcohol and foodstuffs. And I have three things to trade: Men, woman and children. . . ."

 

[Ratking]

Did you mean the individual KING had sovereignty over your body and property? I always wonder how the current British monarchy compares to the traditional monarchies in history. I recall how the African Kings were up in arms when the Europeans DARED to ban slavery. "I seek three things from you," One African King declared, "Guns, alcohol and foodstuffs. And I have three things to trade: Men, woman and children. . . ."

I mean the opposite, minarchy, where the states only role is to serve the people with a justice system that guarantee personal freedom. Each person is his own king. Do what you want as long as you don't take other peoples freedom away. And of course Laissez-faire capitalism, that is the foundation in a flourishing society, opposite to the fascism that roam the economy in the states today(read up on fascism if you don't agree). Capitalism always gets the blame when socialism, fascism and others ism's fails to produce. The problem is that there never was capitalsim to begin with. When the state regulate how the rules of economy is played, how is that capitalism?

 

[Ratking]

This is the results of socialism, always. That is the good thing with socialism, the results are repeatable and predictable. The bad thing is theft and violence, loss of privacy, loss of individuality, loss of productivity and joy of life. And when the government fails to control the people that demands freedom, blood starts to flow in the streets. As I said, very predictable

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/02...t-an-economic-collapse-really-looks-like.html

 

[Arlo1]

This is the results of socialism, always. That is the good thing with socialism, the results are repeatable and predictable. The bad thing is theft and violence, loss of privacy, loss of individuality, loss of productivity and joy of life. And when the government fails to control the people that demands freedom, blood starts to flow in the streets. As I said, very predictable

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/02...t-an-economic-collapse-really-looks-like.html

If that's the case then why do you have so many socialist programs?

The very idea of government is socialist.

The opposition has filled everyone's heads with BS to try to scare them out of voting for sanders.

I don't give the US long on the path is on till it collapses! The US needs MAJOR change.

 

[rborger73]

This is the results of socialism, always. That is the good thing with socialism, the results are repeatable and predictable. The bad thing is theft and violence, loss of privacy, loss of individuality, loss of productivity and joy of life. And when the government fails to control the people that demands freedom, blood starts to flow in the streets. As I said, very predictable

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/02...t-an-economic-collapse-really-looks-like.html

Run along and look up what government Venezuela actually has, and look into why they are having economic problems... Hint, not because of socialism.. lol

 

[Dauntless]

Programs that are socialist.
1 Hospitals
2 Fire departments
3 Health Care. My health car covers all I need other then dental and cost me $62 a month!
4 Highways.
5 Armys
6 Bridges.

Here is 75 more things that are Socialist in Merica. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

NOT TRUE! All those things existed before there was socialism, AND are done better in nonsocialist systems. The Greeks built that Alexandrian library that the Afrocentricity movement keeps trying to take credit for more than 2,000 years ago. Crassus, the richest man in the world at the time, operated his own personal fire department because the main Roman one wasn't so good, all this in the BC age. This is the guy who led the legions that finally defeated Spartacus.

The very idea of government is socialist.

The opposition has filled everyone's heads with BS to try to scare them out of voting for sanders.

I don't give the US long on the path is on till it collapses! The US needs MAJOR change.

Again, not true. BERNIE filled heads with BS to get people to vote for him, those who won't vote for him don't like what he filled their heads with. There's nothing socialist about government until people come along and MAKE it socialist.

But what socialism we have in America has corrupted things to the point that we really are on the brink. The government officials are content to keep pretending that it won't fall apart in THEIR lifetimes, so they can have fun without consequences. The only candidate who's actually talking about fixing anything is, or course, Trump. Bernie keeps insisting he just wants to make it worse.

But he should still run as a 3rd party candidate. It'l lbe fun watching he and (Left of Bill)ary trying to gang up on Trump---and failing.

 

[Arlo1]

You are so full of it its not even funny.

Bernie never filled my head with anything. I look at the data at its clear. I can't believe how its not clear for you.

If those items I listed and the other 75 are not socialist then what makes you say Bernie is socialist?

I tell you what
give me the definition of Socialism (what you think it means)

Then we can get the dictionary out.

Now having said that all the negative shit you are trying to spread about Bernie is BS and all funded by Hilary and Trump to tarnish Bernie's name. In fact Hilary hired people to troll pro Bernie FB groups and get them shut down.

Maybe you are just paid to post this BS.

 

[Ratking]

You are so full of it its not even funny.

Bernie never filled my head with anything. I look at the data at its clear. I can't believe how its not clear for you.

If those items I listed and the other 75 are not socialist then what makes you say Bernie is socialist?

I tell you what
give me the definition of Socialism (what you think it means)

Then we can get the dictionary out.

Now having said that all the negative shit you are trying to spread about Bernie is BS and all funded by Hilary and Trump to tarnish Bernie's name. In fact Hilary hired people to troll pro Bernie FB groups and get them shut down.

Maybe you are just paid to post this BS.

Tell me Arlo, to keep it simple. What do you prefer, to steal from people of not. That s all you need to answer. If we just keep it that simple it is easier to weed out the evil, leachers from the doers. I suspect you won't answer truthfully, since you want the government to give you free stuff. Do you know where the free stuff is coming from? Yeah, thats right, you are stealing from your neighbor. Only because you have a big government stealing for you does not make it right. It is troublesome for me to see grown ups believe that there still is free lunch.

This is why we need less government and more freedom. Too bad Trump cant help us with that

 

[Dauntless]

Learn what is true in order to do what is right.
-Thomas Huxley

You are so full of it its not even funny.

It's not funny because I'm not full of it. Once you figure that out you see the joke is in you saying it. All part of the Bernie supporters great hate campaign. I think ole' Winston would agree that when people see malice from the respondent, they see the respondent as seeking to crush the truth.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
-Winston Churchill

Bernie never filled my head with anything. I look at the data at its clear.

While I admit you can see right through Bernie, forget the data and look at the MAN and his BEHAVIOR!

If those items I listed and the other 75 are not socialist then what makes you say Bernie is socialist?

Um, 60 years of socialist activities, memberships, er--- 60 years of DATA! It's clear he's a socialist. What makes me say he's a socialist is you needing to be told what you refuse to see. Otherwise there'd be no point in stating the obvious.

I tell you what
give me the definition of Socialism (what you think it means)

I don't have a definition of socialism. I go by what you might call the traditional definition. That dictionary you're gonna get out might have a few words on the subject, but a basic introduction would drag on beyond the volume of a Merriam Webster.

I'd take a stab at Bernie being a Utopian Socialist. The naivete, the contradiction, the lack of organization of thought. Except Bernie keeps saying "Revolution," the Utopian Socialists aren't supposed to believe in that. Well, a contradiction, eh?

If you really want to learn of socialism, try reading the book that started it all. Unintentionally. 'On the Best State of a Republic and on the New Island of Utopia.' Sir Thomas More, aka "The Man for all Seasons." Ironically my thought is he was trying to show you what is WRONG with such thinking. This place is a Totalitarian nightmare, foreigners are allowed in as slaves and every home has two, yet you are owned by your job, by the land you work on, etc. Scary as this place was described as being, the novel captured the imaginations of so many of the purveyors of this crap: Robert Owen, Charles Fourier, Étienne Cabet, all formed communities in the 'New World' that failed miserably, simply because the ideas didn't work. Still, the novel is not why Henry the VIII cut his head off.

But you go ahead and follow Marx. Start with his thoughts on losing the ability to determine your own life, your own destiny. Bernie would be proud. Afterall, as a socialist demogogue, he wants to whip you up into such a state you'll surrender all control to HIM. Dang, you're not even in the U.S., no wonder he can't get many votes.

Now having said that all the negative shit you are trying to spread about Bernie is BS and all funded by Hilary and Trump to tarnish Bernie's name. In fact Hilary hired people to troll pro Bernie FB groups and get them shut down.

Maybe you are just paid to post this BS.

That would still be better than the Bernie supporters running around being violent, not even getting paid to but simply because they enjoy oppression. What is it about socialists that make them so criminally insane?

How much you suppose Hillary or Trump would pay me? Tell them I give excellent historical perspective. I'm even good with quotes, such as from this idol of my teen years here.

Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
-Marcus Aurelius

 

[zombiess]

I'm tired of govt funding all the do nothing parasites with money taken from me. I'm not against all welfare and public assistance, but what is going on now is out of control. Lots of services going to illegals.

I work in govt. Funded healthcare and get to see the problems with it every day. More govt is a bad thing. I'm happy that we currently don't get as much govt as we pay for.

 

[Arlo1]

I'm tired of govt funding all the do nothing parasites with money taken from me. I'm not against all welfare and public assistance, but what is going on now is out of control. Lots of services going to illegals.

I work in govt. Funded healthcare and get to see the problems with it every day. More govt is a bad thing. I'm happy that we currently don't get as much govt as we pay for.

Yes but what is going on right now is governments are using your tax money to fund wars. For the cost of Irac you can get all americans free college and university for 57 years!

Bernie wants to tax the people at the top because right no the top 1% are paying less in taxes % wise then the typical school teacher!

Zombies as I said to you HOW MUCH DO YOU MAKE? because he does not want to add tax to the middle class in fact he wants to reduce it. He wants to properly tax the upper class again and deal with things like the Panama shit! Unless you make some insane amount of money then you have nothing to worry about.

On top of that I would never live in the US and the lack of proper health care is the #1 reason!
Our health care works here in Canada. I have never had to pay for anything in the hospital all my broken bones and sinus problems etc.
The USA is the only developed country in the world to not have a proper Health care system in place. What this has caused is things like the aids pill to be marked up to outrageous prices.

 

[zombiess]

Zombies as I said to you HOW MUCH DO YOU MAKE? because he does not want to add tax to the middle class in fact he wants to reduce it. He wants to properly tax the upper class again and deal with things like the Panama shit! Unless you make some insane amount of money then you have nothing to worry about.

Doesn't really matter how much I make, but you can look it up online if you really want to know. I would lose 10% of my income under his plan and being with a single earner household that hurts with ZERO benefit to me and my wife.
I'm tired of all the handouts given to the parasites that have have no interest in bettering themselves. I've watched the hood rat scum grocery shopping with EBT cards and seen how they game the system. The only thing these parasites are willing to do is game the system to get more free shit. frock 'em. There is a WIC office right next door to me full of single Hispanic mothers getting their govt. cheese, many with 2-5 kids orbiting them. Why should support this type of behavior? I don't like to reward the stupid.

At some point I might become disabled and need social security and medicare. This system is here for US citizens, not the illegal parasites. I object to any of this funding going to illegal aliens.

College for everyone, yeah wouldn't that be great, just what we need, more useless liberal arts majors. What we really need is a 13th-15th grade that you need to go back to at 30,40 and 50yrs old to teach these fat clueless frocks sucking down opiates (because they have oh so much pain from being fat and lazy) they need to eat and exercise correctly.

What we have going on now is progressive credentialism where you need to be certified to wipe your ass. Colleges admit just about anyone so they can get as much govt money as possible. The only lender for student loans is you guessed it, the US Govt. This is what is driving up the cost and watering down the credibility of a college degree.

Healthcare is frocked. King fucktardo of the whitehouse and our fucktard politicians didn't listen to the US constituency like usual when they passed the Obamanation of the healthcare reform act.

I'm voting Trump this year just to piss off as many liberal cry babies as possible. Watching them cry gives me pleasure.

 

[Chalo]

I'm voting Trump this year just to piss off as many liberal cry babies as possible. Watching them cry gives me pleasure.

Typical conservative asshattery. You have plenty of Republican company in your combination of the morals of a pursesnatcher with the negotiating methods of a two-year-old. I can see that Trump really does represent you and your brethren, at least in terms of character.

 

[zombiess]

Typical conservative asshattery. You have plenty of Republican company in your combination of the morals of a pursesnatcher with the negotiating methods of a two-year-old. I can see that Trump really does represent you and your brethren, at least in terms of character.

The liberal in me just reported you to the mods for hurting my feelings :lol:

 

[Arlo1]

I'm voting Trump this year just to piss off as many liberal cry babies as possible. Watching them cry gives me pleasure.

Typical conservative asshattery. You have plenty of Republican company in your combination of the morals of a pursesnatcher with the negotiating methods of a two-year-old. I can see that Trump really does represent you and your brethren, at least in terms of character.

Its Ok Zombies wife is from another country and well he just said he is the only bread earner. So she is the very thing Zombies and Trump do not want in MERICA!

At the same time I wish you luck Zombies when you need to sell everything you own for medical bills and you are living on the streets after.

You are young now and you can earn money now.... But one day that will change.

 

[zombiess]

Its Ok Zombies wife is from another country and well he just said he is the only bread earner. So she is the very thing Zombies and Trump do not want in MERICA!

At the same time I wish you luck Zombies when you need to sell everything you own for medical bills and you are living on the streets after.

You are young now and you can earn money now.... But one day that will change.

You are not paying attention to the details. My wife is here legally and always has been here legally, just like myself and Trump want. I work so my wife doesn't have to. She is welcome to, but I don't want her stressing over a $15hr job, it's not worth it since she doesn't need to. If you want to talk about these political topics, please read more into the details, especially about illegal immigration.

Like Chalo, you are making assumptions about me. I'm 38 and physically disabled. Somehow I manage to eat right, work out to improve my condition and maintain a regular job. It's certainly not the easy path. I know all about medical bills, I pay around $600/mo for care and equipment not covered by my insurance. I don't think much of it would be covered in Canada either.

I have a vested interest in making sure that the social welfare systems will be available to me if required. Hence my comments on the parasites. Our parasites have it so good here. They would easily be considered middle class in the Philippines.