LightningRods mid drive kit

LightningRods said:
emaayan said:
I'M NEXT!!! I'M NEXT!!!I'M NEXT!!! I'M NEXT!!! :D :lol:

Yes my patient and long suffering friend. It is finally your turn. :D

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LightningRods said:
Mammalian04 said:
Mike, for clarity of myself and benefit of others interested, could you list exactly what is included with the BIG BLOCK kit that I ordered so I don't inadvertently expect something I am not supposed to get?

Also, we didn't actually work out the final total beyond the $400 deposit. Could you tell me what the final cost will be?
... I know, we probably should have worked this out before I sent the deposit.... :wink:

Thanks Mike!

The big block kit is basically the same deal as the small block kit except that the motor is $225 instead of $125. I haven't figured out the difference in cost on the larger brackets. You might be looking at $25 more. All of my kits come complete except for bicycle chainrings, controller/throttle and other controller accessories, and batteries. Your big block kit should be around $925 based on current pricing.

In the case of Jim, he paid extra for belt and chain guards and I failed to record it on his order. I'll be sending him the parts he paid for.

Thanks Mike. Could you edit an early post somewhere in the thread to post pictures of all the "options," and why we might need them, and associated prices? I think belt and especially chain guards would be an important addition to my kit. I have sucked a finger up in a sprocket before while cleaning a non-running motorcycle chain (really stupid and thank goodness I still have my finger).
 
Mammalian04 said:
Thanks Mike. Could you edit an early post somewhere in the thread to post pictures of all the "options," and why we might need them, and associated prices? I think belt and especially chain guards would be an important addition to my kit. I have sucked a finger up in a sprocket before while cleaning a non-running motorcycle chain (really stupid and thank goodness I still have my finger).

Let me get my pricing sorted out and then I'll go back to one of the early pages and edit in a list of "included" and "optional" parts.
 
LightningRods said:
Mammalian04 said:
Thanks Mike. Could you edit an early post somewhere in the thread to post pictures of all the "options," and why we might need them, and associated prices? I think belt and especially chain guards would be an important addition to my kit. I have sucked a finger up in a sprocket before while cleaning a non-running motorcycle chain (really stupid and thank goodness I still have my finger).

Let me get my pricing sorted out and then I'll go back to one of the early pages and edit in a list of "included" and "optional" parts.

Sounds great. Thanks Mike!

It is also exciting to see the list updated. Good idea!
 
Steve finished the prototype thread on pulley for the 60V chain drive GNGs today. Wishes was good enough to send us his chain drive motor to work with. The pulley threads on perfectly. We'll do some bench tests here and then send it back to Wishes for some 4,000 watt torture testing. If he can't break it, you won't break it.

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Dennis P just sent me a photo of his gorgeous Rocky Mountain Flatline with my kit freshly installed on it. I LOVE the way the kit looks on this bike! The brackets and tech of the kit blends into the rear suspension bits and gives a factory e-bike look. This is the perfect type of bike to install my kit on.

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My nomad should be pretty sweet too! Keep up the good work mike!
 
Wow... Where do you guys with full suspension put the battery? I went with hardtail because I didn't want to wear the battery and didn't want it hanging off the back. Thought it would throw off the balance of the bike.
 
That is an awesome looking bike!
Batteries do look juicy cut into the frame, don't be afraid to try - or mail yours to me ;)

Big props on the look of the kit.
 
I plan to build a battery pack that's split into two equal parts, probably at 24S 2P (88V 16Ah) each. I'll have one pack on the bike and another in a backpack. For quick rides and goofing at the local park I'll just use the bike pack. When I want to go on longer rides I'll either parallel the backpack battery in for 32Ah or keep it as a 'reserve tank' for the ride home.

Backpack batteries are common on downhill bikes because of limited space on the bike and because riders want to keep the bike light and tossable.
 
The backpack battery clearly has its pros and cons, but at least it's an option if there's no room on the bike for batteries. There are times I wish I could just hop on my bike and start riding without having to jack myself in like I'm about to enter the Matrix. :lol:

Since I've been using a backpack battery for quite some time now, I have to say my favorite location to mount the plug is somewhere by the handle bars. Kranked Bikes/Ego set theirs up between the legs, and I've tried that set up as well. There's a lot of wire growth when you stand up off the pedals and lean off the back of the seat for the more technical stuff. Having the umbilical plug in by the handle bars has the least amount of wire growth what ever riding position you're in.
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LightningRods said:
What kind of connector do you like to use for the umbilical? I know you like Andersons on your phase wires.

I use Andersons for those as well. I've fallen a few times and/or had to ditch my bike, and I like how it doesn't snag. It'll just disconnect.

The first place I had set up my plug was on top of the top tube, but here and there it would disconnect when I stood up or moved my body behind the seat for drops. I had the same issue with the plug coming up between my legs on the seat (EGO/Kranked Style)... which also didn't agree with my dropper post set up.

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Holybike-video-2012.html

This is the video that gave me the idea to try out the plug near the handle bars.

I think any connector that doesn't snap/lock or require a substantial amount of force to connect/disconnect will work fine. :)
 
skyungjae said:
The backpack battery clearly has its pros and cons, but at least it's an option if there's no room on the bike for batteries. There are times I wish I could just hop on my bike and start riding without having to jack myself in like I'm about to enter the Matrix. :lol:

Since I've been using a backpack battery for quite some time now, I have to say my favorite location to mount the plug is somewhere by the handle bars. Kranked Bikes/Ego set theirs up between the legs, and I've tried that set up as well. There's a lot of wire growth when you stand up off the pedals and lean off the back of the seat for the more technical stuff. Having the umbilical plug in by the handle bars has the least amount of wire growth what ever riding position you're in.
I used to do umbilical to handlebars as well...finally mounted 15ah to the bike for easy 'jump on and go'.
Handlebars was so much easier connect and disconnect than between the legs. It started really hurting my back with the giant VPower brick I was hauling though. Bike was way easier to maneuver using backpack, but I like it way better having everything on the bike now....looks a bit of a monstrosity, but I can actually carry "stuff" with me now
 
Nice looking bike. Excited to have mine. Thanks skyjungjae for the tips along the way. Waiting game is almost over. Mike is the man. cheers :lol:
 
The thread on pulley is on it's way to Wishes for testing. I'm pretty confident that it will stand up to his abuse. The pulley is aluminum but we put a steel insert into it for the motor shaft to thread into. The threads are all self tightening with the rotation of the motor. Things should be a lot quieter for GNG chain drive owners in the near future.

Steve and I have been suffering with processing the motor shafts on our home shop sized lathe. The factory motor shafts are just too tough for it. I just today made a deal with a local machine shop with a monster lathe to machine all of my 80 remaining motor shafts. That will remove THE major road block to moving kits out the door. I have an assistant doing prep and paint now, Steve is on jackshafts, housings, and special order driver sprockets and pulleys, and I answer e-mails, write checks and assemble orders. Bit by bit we're getting it figured out.
 
Good job - keep ramping up production! I see the market for these kits increasing, with the "Graying of America". Quite a few of us old timers are beginning to suffer from joint problems, but we aren't willing to give up riding. I think I just sold another one of your kits for you - a friend of mine who was just informed that he needs a knee replacement also refuses to stay off his mountain bike.
 
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