Bill Best said:
I've been too pre-occupied to chase after Joshua for my money, but I'd be glad to get involved if a few of us got together to do something.
I posted this to the original buy yahoo group so herez a copy for ES:
Re: [lifepo4-purchase] BMS catastrophe
--- On Thu, 4/22/10, ebike <ebike@...> wrote:
From: ebike <ebike@...>
Subject: Re: [lifepo4-purchase] BMS catastrophe
To: lifepo4-purchase@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 5:50 PM
Well hey at least you GOT your Batteries!!
Joshua Goldberg fraudulently misappropriated my money to pay for YOUR
batteries. I am out ALL my money and have neither received my batteries case
or BMS's or a REFUND.
All I get is a different song and dance routine with empty promises. There are 6
or 7 other Canadians that were ripped off as well.
At least you got to use yours for a while.
From early 2009:
RE: [lifepo4-purchase] Re: My packs
Thursday, April 2, 2009 11:46 AM
From: "EVsolutions" <evsolutions@...>
To: lifepo4-purchase@yahoogroups.com
My Paypal Account is in USD and my Bank Account is in USD but according to
Paypal there was a Policy change and Revenue Canada are the ones to blame here.
Seems American money being transferred across the Border has to enter as
Canadian currency.
As for the Canadian side of all this I’m working on it and should know within
a couple of weeks. On the positive side the packs we get will have all the nifty
improvements Headway discovered were lacking in the first shipment.
Will now cover my ears so I won’t hear all the swearing form the American
side.
joshua goldberg
evsolutions@ rogers.com
http://www.evsolutions. net
http://groups. yahoo.com/ groups/e- motor-assist
-----Original Message-----
From: lifepo4-purchase@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:lifepo4- purchase@ yahoogroups.
com] On Behalf Of ebike
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:08 AM
To: lifepo4-purchase@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [lifepo4-purchase] Re: My packs
Ouch...!!!
Well I'd consult a lawyer regarding paypal. Unless you specifically requested
the monetary conversion they had no right doing it. Talking nice nice on the
phone will get you nowhere with them. The trick is getting a lawyer that will do
the work for a percentage of the amount to reclaim. Any lawyers in the group
buy??
Well lets hope Rob hasn't decided to abscond with the batteries and sell them
locally. You really need to contact his business if not him. Wasn't there
someone in the group buy that was only a couple miles away?? Dropping by witha
billy club or cop in tow might be in order if there is no word soon.
Unfortunately collecting the money then waiting to put in the purchase is akin
to playing the money market. Sometime you win and sometimes it takes a bloody
large chunk outta your arse.
So what is happening with the Canadian shipment? Are you calling it quits and
refunding or is it going through? Has it already gone through?
EVsolutions wrote:
Been unable to locate Rob for almost 3 weeks. He was supposed to meet Victoria
about the warranty and replacement parts and according to Victoria he never
appeared and did not respond to emails or phone calls.
I have stayed out of all this since the boat docked because Rob was into
handling everything but none of what I wanted or expected happened or it
happened really slowly.
There was supposed to be a website setup by Rob for everyone who got a pack or
cells that gave performance graphs and info on care & maintenance of the cells
and on replacing parts and so on. That website never happened beyond getting the
domain name.
The plan was Rob would be the Distributor for Headway and so his dealing with
Headway and everyone and their issues is included in the job description and so
far all that has been a roaring mess. You cannot have customer support when the
guy who is supposed to be doing it goes AWOL.
My own e-bike was stolen yesterday afternoon and then my wife informs me she
cancelled our theft insurance 2 months ago because no one in this area ever has
anything stolen and so I’m in a really evil mood right now.
Yesterday I started discussion with a company in Florida who does electric car
conversions. Their company CEO met Victoria last week and if they takeover from
Rob then replacement parts under Warranty and missing packs will flow through
their company.
As for a refund?
Well since Rob does have your order I’m not sure how that would work? I keep
assuming Rob will reappear.
When I decided to do this Group shipment I calculated I would lose about
$108.00 on the Foreign Exchange rate and Bank Transfer fees and I thought a mere
$108.00 was worth it to get all this done. Well that $108.00 loss turned into a
$5,400.00 loss and so I will have to destroy my Master Card and go on a diet (no
more Donuts) to cover that loss and of course having my wife laid off due to the
recession adds to the fun. To add another refund right now would not be
pleasant.
If anyone is curious how a $108.00 Loss mushroomed into a $5,400.00 Loss it was
because of the delays at Headway getting the order shipped out. Had the final
60% payment gone in before October 17 the loss had increased only a few hundred
dollars from when the first 40% payment was made.
When the initial 40% Down payment was made the Canadian Dollar was almost at Par
with the American Dollar and so my loss was only $108.00
Paypal (as a favor to me) the idiots sent the 60% Paypal Payment to me in
Canadian Funds just as the Canadian Dollar fell off a cliff. Since I had an
American Dollar Bank Account that I only used for Headway I had zero reason to
check the balance. When I went into the Bank for the 60% Balance Transfer I
discovered what Paypal had done.
The Canadian Dollar dropped from 98 Cents U.S. to 77 cents U.S. but my Bank
pegged it at 75 cents U.S.
So the 40% went in okay at $14,400.00 US.
When the 60% Balance was due the $21,600.00 U.S. was now only $16,200.00 U.S.
and $5,400.00 was missing because of the exchange rate drop-Ã oh what fun.
I tried to get Paypal to cough up the $5,400.00 since it was their being nice to
me that created the mess but they wouldn’t budge.
I ended up delaying the 60% Payment till December 01st hoping Headway would
lower their prices and the Canadian Dollar rebounded but the Dollar is fixed to
the price of Oil and with Oil trading so low the Dollar stayed low. Rob insisted
I send in the $21,600.00 on December 01st because everyone here was complaining
about the delays. Compounding the problem was my needing to refund payments in
U.S. Dollars using Canadian money to several people. End result was I lost a bit
under $6,400.00 and I didn’t even get a Headway pack for myself-à bugger.
Headway waited till they got the full payment and then lowered their prices. Had
they lowered it before I sent the 60% Balance my loss would have been smaller
and less painful.
The term “Giant Cluster F*ck†springs to mind here and with Rob vanishing it
is just one more nail in the ever expanding coffin.
joshua goldberg
evsolutions@ rogers.com
http://www.evsolutions. net
http://groups. yahoo.com/ groups/e- motor-assist
-----Original Message-----
From: lifepo4-purchase@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:lifepo4- purchase@ yahoogroups.
com] On Behalf Of mskwood32
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 5:28 AM
To: lifepo4-purchase@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [lifepo4-purchase] Re: My packs
Hi Joshua,
So has Rob emailed you on the status of my 48v 20amp order??????? ?? If Headway
sent out some dead on arrive BMS, Chargers and cells then why haven't they sent
replacements units out to rectify the problem? When I ordered battery packs from
Ping one had arrived with a faulty BMS. I emailed him and within a week I had a
replacement bms at my door step. I can't believe that it has been 8 months since
getting involved in this group buy and still no batteries. Can you get some
information on the date that my working pack will be shipped to me. Or just
refund me my money back.
Mike
--- In lifepo4-purchase@ yahoogroups. com, "EVsolutions" <evsolutions@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Am waiting for Rob to email me
>
>
>
> joshua goldberg
>
> evsolutions@ ...
>
> http://www.evsolutions. net
>
> http://groups. yahoo.com/ groups/e- motor-assist
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lifepo4-purchase@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:lifepo4-purchase@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mskwood32
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:40 PM
> To: lifepo4-purchase@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [lifepo4-purchase] Re: My packs
>
>
>
> Hi Joshua,
> Status please on my order?
> Mike
>
> --- In lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> yahoogroups. com, "EVsolutions" <evsolutions@ > wrote:
> >
> > Will ask Rob since it looks like some spare cells are needed also.
> Victoria
> > is supposed to be in San Diego in a couple of days and I assume Rob will
> > bring up what is missing then.
> >
> >
> >
> > joshua goldberg
> >
> > evsolutions@
> >
> > http://www.evsolutions. net
> >
> > http://groups. <http://groups. yahoo.com/ groups/e- motor-assist>
> yahoo.com/groups/ e-motor-assist
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:lifepo4- purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mskwood32
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:34 PM
> > To: lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [lifepo4-purchase] Re: My packs
> >
> >
> >
> > Joshua,
> > So how long will this take?
> > Mike
> >
> > --- In lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > yahoogroups. com, "EVsolutions" <evsolutions@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > I never emailed you because I thought Rob did that already.
> > >
> > > Your pack was the one with the broken BMS and dead Charger that Rob is
> > > getting replaced.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The only other screw up was a missing 3620 that appeared as (2) 3610
> > packs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > joshua goldberg
> > >
> > > evsolutions@
> > >
> > > http://www.evsolutions. net
> > >
> > > http://groups. <http://groups.
> <http://groups. yahoo.com/ groups/e- motor-assist>
> yahoo.com/groups/ e-motor-assist>
> > yahoo.com/groups/ e-motor-assist
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > yahoogroups. com
> > > [mailto:lifepo4- purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mskwood32
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:21 PM
> > > To: lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: [lifepo4-purchase] Re: My packs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joshua
> > > Can you find out the status on my Pack (48v 20amp) hour. All my payments
> > > have been made on time. I have ask several time for a status update and
> > > still have no idea as to what is going on with my order. I don't have a
> > spam
> > > blocker that see paypal request as spam.
> > > Mike kirkwood.michael@ <mailto:kirkwood. michael%40gmail. com> gmail.com
> > >
> > > -- In lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > yahoogroups. com, "EVsolutions" <evsolutions@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I sent Rob your email address earlier today and asked him to try it
> > again.
> > > >
> > > > Only other thing I can imagine is you have a Spam Blocker that sees
> > Paypal
> > > > as Spam.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > joshua goldberg
> > > >
> > > > evsolutions@
> > > >
> > > > http://www.evsolutions. net
> > > >
> > > > http://groups. <http://groups.
> > <http://groups. <http://groups. yahoo.com/ groups/e- motor-assist>
> yahoo.com/groups/ e-motor-assist>
> > yahoo.com/groups/ e-motor-assist>
> > > yahoo.com/groups/ e-motor-assist
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > > [mailto:lifepo4- purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups.
com>
> > > yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of nordhs
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:57 PM
> > > > To: lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: [lifepo4-purchase] Re: My packs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sigh, no. Same email address I've had for 12 years. Same paypal
> account
> > > that
> > > > I used to send the initial payments. Paypal account is still active. I
> > > check
> > > > my email multiple times per day. Same address assigned to my yahoo
> > > > membership for this group.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes it isn't fun being 'special'.
> > > > -Steve
> > > >
> > > > --- In lifepo4-purchase@ <mailto:lifepo4- purchase% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > > yahoogroups. com, "EVsolutions" <evsolutions@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible you have a new email address?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > An email address different from the one you gave to Paypal?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob sent me a list a couple of weeks ago with only 4 people listed
> and
> > > you
> > > > > were on the list of people who had not replied to his emails and I
> > know
> > > > the
> > > > > other 3 had eventually replied and got their packs.
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