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If you had unlimited funds what type of ebike shop would you open

I would have a shop area that would have ebikes bicycle style to high end styles like the motorino and sell kits for the diy and have a garage area that my tech would be there and a area for the diy if they do not have space to build and offer advice and any special skills if needed

What would you do
 
It would take some serious no objecting of the money to build a real track these days. I suppose I could settle for one like the old Rialto Airport Speedway. But you want to have a store as part of it.

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If money were no object, I'd try to find an old school GS1000 or so for the frame and rolling stock, add a 100kW motor, 20kW/h battery and try to build a controller for this :D

and, I would do this from a luxurious villa located in Tenerife or Kelowna (haven't decided yet :D )

Hey, it's my daydream so I can build my bike where I want :mrgreen:
 
Simonvtr said:
I would not open a shop but I would open a track for e-bikes and e-trikes.

+1.

Since they are quiet and don't stink, few locations are issues unlike gasbike tracks.
 
Back to the OP's question:

If I had unlimited funds for an ebike shop to build bikes for people, I'd buy this house and lot (for me and the dogs), and the one nextdoor to the west for the building of stuff (it has a nice big (relative to bicycles) tall garage/shed with it's own powerpanel already on it, separate from the house there, and a nice empty yard I could just take the fence down between mine and that one, so the dogs can have more to explore and be security for both of them. ;)

I'd do bicycle-class custom cargo vehicles for people, especially those willing to trade in the typical car/truck lifestyle for that of a cargo-biker (even if they keep their big vehicles for those instances that don't suit or allow for cargo-biking for whatever reason).

I'd have a bunch of "standard" types I could easily build up from existing parts and jigs, and people could bring in their own designs for me to build (or help them redesign for better practicality).

All designs, including those others bring in to be built, would become part of the pool of designs for others to pick from, because if an idea is good, why not spread it around? :)

If someone doesn't want anyone else to have any part of their design, then I guess I wouldn't be able to help them build that. But I expect most would be fine with the idea.


It'd be word-of-mouth, not a storefront with any kind of regular hours, so it'd take off slow most likely. But it would let me take care of the dogs and myself, and do the stuff I really like to do, while hopefully making enough money to survive on, and helping others at least try out the cargo-biker lifestyle.



It'd be nice to deck out the shop with all sorts of fancy tools, but really just having powered versions of assorted tube cutting/bending/etc tools, axle/bearing/etc press, drill-press, lathe, and so on, would probably be enough for most things.


Optional:

A CNC setup capable of doing various metals would be nice, for repeating parts used on various designs (preferably with some sort of 3d-scanner that would "copy" a part I'd worked out the shape of via experimentation as I am not so great at putting that kind of thing into the computer as 3d-models anymore).

A 3d-printer for plastics would be helpful, for covers and doodads and stuff.

A big vacuform machine would also be useful for fairings and/or plastic fenders and things.



But...I expect that most of these custom vehicles would be way out of any typical person's budget, much less desire, if I had to earn a profit from it all to pay for the place itself and me and the dogs to live off of too.

So if I did this, I'd want to be able to offer stuff to people liek me that could never really afford to buy these things...costs of those vehicles offset by others who *could* afford to pay the full cost of something like these things (which I epxect would be a few thousand dollars each, at that point).
 
You could run an ebike paradise of open collaborative development as well as anyone I know Amberwolf.
 
Where would be easy: Austin Texas. It's one of the most liberal cities in the nation, and liberals love bicycles. As such it's in the tops for most bike friendly cities in the U.S. It's a very affluent city with a high per-capita income, which means those Liberals are mostly Hipsters, who will spend obscene amounts of money on the latest and greatest shiny object. It's also a technology hub, so many of those affluent liberal hipsters are tech nerds, so an ebike would appeal to their geeky side. And finally, the town is beautiful, which makes up for all the Rich geeky crazy hipsters who have infested it. :mrgreen:

In Austin, I would open a nature preserve with Ebike only trails. Something that would have paths for the average causal biker to enjoy rolling through the forests and spotting a few deer, or longhorns grazing on the grasslands. But it would also have highly technical sections with extreme ascents and descents, rock crawling, jumps, and stream crossings. At various places along the trails would be charging stations run by sustainable power sources. Solar, Wind, maybe some small scale hydro from the many streams in the area, etc.

The shop would be on the grounds of the preserve, built only from salvaged or recycled parts, and include a large open workshop and communal area. It would also have a small restaurant complete with BBQ and locally brewed beer. And being Austin, I would host some local bands for ride in parties, and sponsor some night time ride events.

I would also rent ebikes for park use.
 
Is Bluff Creek Ranch , ( a private ranch with miles of singletrack, located at Warda Texas ) Still open ?

Any report on it , and if they would allow e-bikes there ?


Drunkskunk wrote :
In Austin, I would open a nature preserve with Ebike only trails. Something that would have paths for the average causal biker to enjoy rolling through the forests and spotting a few deer, or longhorns grazing on the grasslands. But it would also have highly technical sections with extreme ascents and descents, rock crawling, jumps, and stream crossings. At various places along the trails would be charging stations run by sustainable power sources. Solar, Wind, maybe some small scale hydro from the many streams in the area, etc.
 
Hey Guys, I am a realtor in Austin if anyone wants to makes this more serious. I am not sure we have the critical mass of high performance eBike buyers here so an eBike playground in conjunction with something else would work great. Think the hill country breweries, Nutty Brown Cafe, or even the Circuit of the Americas are examples of this (though on a mega scale). A sole purpose facility would probably suck investors dry before it ever got close to profitable. I am liking this idea. Have to go West or Northwest to chase the affluent as you suggested. If money were no object, I'd still suggest the hill country. Better views and great topo change for smoking some Hub motors (or lightning rods to the rescue for the rental fleet of mid-drives).
 
DarthSidious said:
Saw this 5 year old thread and it made me smile.

Especially at a time like this, right?

When they say 'Location Location Location' that has a lot of different meanings. The investment company that bought a scooter shop approached me to buy it from them a short time later and talked about me going down there and clicking the hand counter to see the foot traffic. Who gives a rats ass about that? They think scooters are impulse buys? Oh, some investment company whose mind is rooted in grocery and clothing. The worst thing about this location is it was within a mile or so of Myron's Extreme Machine, (Who probably wound up buying the inventory for a song.) Why would anyone bother going to this little place? Otherwise it was in a great part of town. They closed shortly after he called.

A great place for a little racetrack as described was I think in Torrance around all the aviation business, the one building was vacant and they got the parking lot I guess kind of cheap on weekends in the rough economy. I assume an occupant came for the building and that was that, no way to afford a full time lot in that real estate market, but the customers were all around. Rialto Airport Speedway was in a semideserted neighborhood out away from the main throng, people drove 50-100 miles for races in a parking lot that was at least stocked with better barriers, etc., since it was full time. But the financial meltdown took it, too. Way up in the high desert, a really good small track survived all that. Not because the Grange was in a great location, I don't remember if it's a full 100 miles from me, but it was cheap there. It was even areal track.

The Cal Club, the organization founded by Ken Miles of 'Ford vs. Ferrari' fame, built their Buttonwillow track in the middle of nowhere. Just as Les Richter build Riverside International Raceway (Where Miles died) in the middle of nowhere. The hope was of the suburbs growing up around it. But that's what killed Riverside, when the City of Moreno Valley incorporated the area and decided if they could drive Richter out of business they could make a lot of money off his land. It would have had to be a money is no object situation for Richter to fight off the corrupt politicians and city employees, someday the Cal Club may face the same sort of criminals.

Dang, nothing is safe. I'd still rather win that lottery and have them after me instead of being where I'm at now.
 
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