Motorino XPn Chinese ebike (scooter)

[mistercrash]

Good to hear have fun at work and be safe. I had my feelers out for some leaf batteries and my buddy called but I was not able to hear the phone and missed out on a full set of leaf batteries for 300$. He took them out sold them to a leaf dealer and the motor as well here's the wacked out bit he is re building it with a ICE from a Mazda wrx I will do my best to get some pics of the rebuild

What the heck is a Mazda WRX? :lol: Am I reading this right, your buddy is putting an engine into a Nissan Leaf?! BLASPHEMY! Don't you dare put any pics or talk anymore of this monstrosity in this thread.

 

[Laserman]

I ment Mitsubishi wrx = world rally x ok I won't post it here in your section just in a new area

 

[Arlo1]

I ment Mitsubishi wrx = world rally x ok I won't post it here in your section just in a new area

Face palm.
Mitsubishi EVO or Subaru WRX.

Eaither way does he have any of the leaf drive parts left.

I have a power train and I would like more parts.

I hope your buddy likes loosing to other leafs Because with a battery up grade that system will do ~300hp!

Don't worry I will be pushing mine a little harder.

 

[Laserman]

All I know he is being stupid and I was in pain killer land when I posted the earlier post

 

[mistercrash]

I can't remember if I said this before. If you are caught riding in a torrential rainfall, or your scooter was outside and it rained very hard on it, you might have the problem of having no power to the motor. The scooter turns on, the voltmeter shows voltage, everything is working but when you twist the throttle, the motor doesn't move at all. It's the frackin' kill switches on the brake levers doing that. If the rainfall is violent enough to push a drop of water inside the switch, it creates a short much like if you were applying the brakes, hence no power to the motor. I had to push my scooter home last night after a thunder storm drenched it in the parking lot while I was working. Once I blew compressed air on the switches, the motor was working fine. :|
I'm not going to be lazy anymore and I'm going to put the cover on the scooter when I leave it outside. Until I find a way to make those switches waterproof :lol:

 

[imorton]

I can't remember if I said this before. If you are caught riding in a torrential rainfall, or your scooter was outside and it rained very hard on it, you might have the problem of having no power to the motor. The scooter turns on, the voltmeter shows voltage, everything is working but when you twist the throttle, the motor doesn't move at all. It's the frackin' kill switches on the brake levers doing that. If the rainfall is violent enough to push a drop of water inside the switch, it creates a short much like if you were applying the brakes, hence no power to the motor. I had to push my scooter home last night after a thunder storm drenched it in the parking lot while I was working. Once I blew compressed air on the switches, the motor was working fine. :|
I'm not going to be lazy anymore and I'm going to put the cover on the scooter when I leave it outside. Until I find a way to make those switches waterproof :lol:

Or at the Dollar Store, get a can of compressed air for $2, and carry that with you…

IAN.

 

[Laserman]

I can't remember if I said this before. If you are caught riding in a torrential rainfall, or your scooter was outside and it rained very hard on it, you might have the problem of having no power to the motor. The scooter turns on, the voltmeter shows voltage, everything is working but when you twist the throttle, the motor doesn't move at all. It's the frackin' kill switches on the brake levers doing that. If the rainfall is violent enough to push a drop of water inside the switch, it creates a short much like if you were applying the brakes, hence no power to the motor. I had to push my scooter home last night after a thunder storm drenched it in the parking lot while I was working. Once I blew compressed air on the switches, the motor was working fine. :|
I'm not going to be lazy anymore and I'm going to put the cover on the scooter when I leave it outside. Until I find a way to make those switches waterproof :lol:

Or at the Dollar Store, get a can of compressed air for $2, and carry that with you…

IAN.

Good idea I will have to get a can my self if I get that issue

 

[amberwolf]

If it doesn't get too warm where you are, you can use battery-terminal dielectric grease to fill the switch with, or put around/between/over the contacts or soldered terminals of the switch, an dinto the end of the cabling inside the housing.

it doesn't work perfectly here in Phoenix cuz it gets so hot the stuff runs off and only leaves a film that eventually either evaporates or otehrwise removes itself, but in places it doesn't get easily 120F+ in the direct sun in midsummer, it'd probably work fine.

 

[mistercrash]

The can of compressed air is a good idea to get you going in a hurry once the rain stops, but when the problem occurs while riding because you get caught riding in the rain, it's difficult to blow air in the switches while riding.

I tried to keep the switches lubed and greased to keep the water out many times but if you happen to forget to re-lube/re-grease periodically, you get stuck again when you least expect it. It doesn't get to 120 in direct sunlight up here but we do get to mid 90s, enough to make grease run off in time.

I got a couple ideas, I'll figure something out this weekend.

Thanks

 

[imorton]

Keep us posted

 

[inedible]

If you're feeling adventurous, you could disable the switches.

Their main use is enabling regen, which, if you're using the stock controller at higher-than-normal voltage, is probably not working anyway.

I'm not really sure off the top of my head how they hook up, but there's bound to be a wire on the stock controller's harness you could cut/disconnect to disable that feature.

Of course, you couldn't "rev" your throttle at stoplights any more. The motor would always be live.

 

[imorton]

If you're feeling adventurous, you could disable the switches.

Their main use is enabling regen, which, if you're using the stock controller at higher-than-normal voltage, is probably not working anyway.

I'm not really sure off the top of my head how they hook up, but there's bound to be a wire on the stock controller's harness you could cut/disconnect to disable that feature.

Of course, you couldn't "rev" your throttle at stoplights any more. The motor would always be live.

Great idea about disconnecting the cable/switch for the brake, but the "revving" at the stop light, that made me laugh…. Lolll

The lack of noise is a nice bonus about the scooter.

I must say though, I miss riding my old sport bikes (motorcycles), but the lack of sweet exhaust noise of a 4 cylinder engine redlining at 9,000 rpm is thrilling too…

 

[mistercrash]

In Ontario, Canada, by law there has to be a system that cuts power to the motor if the brakes are applied. If it wasn't for this law those switches would've been yanked out more than three years ago when I bought the scooter :lol:

I took a couple pieces of dense foam and wrapped the area where the switches are with them. They're held in place with a tie wrap. I'm hoping that being loosely protected from water will keep most of it from going in the switches and if a tiny bit goes around them on the surface, there will be enough air movement underneath the foam to dry it out quickly. The switches shorting because of water always happened when there was A LOT of rain coming down, never when there was just a normal rainfall.

 

[Laserman]

Could you post pic bud?

 

[imorton]

Is there a way to jury-rig a hidden switch to deactivate the brake cut-off when there's a big rain, and you can re-activate the switch when it's dry out ?

 

[mistercrash]

Could you post pic bud?

 

[Laserman]

Nice I will see about that and where did you get the wind screen? Looks great on your bike

 

[Laserman]

My charger is,acting up abit and I want a bit quicker charger and I found a supplier here in Ottawa that has a rather good unit here's the link to the PDF http://www.econogics.com/Soneil/5807SR.pdf what do you think gang

 

[mistercrash]

I read good things about Soneil chargers. If the supplier in Ottawa is Scooteretti, I read good things about them also.

 

[Laserman]

It's a small guy running as a home based business and is part of the ev club of Ottawa

 

[inedible]

In Ontario, Canada, by law there has to be a system that cuts power to the motor if the brakes are applied. If it wasn't for this law those switches would've been yanked out more than three years ago when I bought the scooter :lol:

I also just realized they're probably also there to engage the brake light, so yeah, probably not a good idea to remove them.

 

[mistercrash]

In Ontario, Canada, by law there has to be a system that cuts power to the motor if the brakes are applied. If it wasn't for this law those switches would've been yanked out more than three years ago when I bought the scooter :lol:

I also just realized they're probably also there to engage the brake light, so yeah, probably not a good idea to remove them.

You made me realize that too, this water shorting the switches problems happened to me three or four times, never did I think of looking at my brake light to see if it was staying on, this would be an indication that there is water inside the switches causing a short, and yes those switches are wired to the brake light. And they also activate the regen. I attached a wiring diagram in pdf I found in the thread of someone else with a Motorino scooter. Sorry if I posted this before, this thread is too long and I forget what's in it.

 

[skeelo]

In Ontario, Canada, by law there has to be a system that cuts power to the motor if the brakes are applied. If it wasn't for this law those switches would've been yanked out more than three years ago when I bought the scooter :lol:

I took a couple pieces of dense foam and wrapped the area where the switches are with them. They're held in place with a tie wrap. I'm hoping that being loosely protected from water will keep most of it from going in the switches and if a tiny bit goes around them on the surface, there will be enough air movement underneath the foam to dry it out quickly. The switches shorting because of water always happened when there was A LOT of rain coming down, never when there was just a normal rainfall.

baha I got that disconnected, stupid thing worked too well as my e-scooter didn't even go after awhile as my brake/motor connection just stayed that way, it's good for rookies but after riding for a while it's pointless.

 

[Laserman]

Well this part of the thread has come in handy as buddy of mine is have the issues discussed lately and has allowed me to do trouble shooting on his bike, and looks like it worked thanks gang

Jim

 

[Laserman]

On my buddy's bike figured out the issue with his for some reason both switches seem to be going wonky and would activate the brake light, regen, and not allow the motor to not work I disconnected the wires as a temp fix while i work on the switches and figure them out. So if in a bad rain storm just disconnect the wires warning tho you lose regen and the brake light but it will allow you to get home
Jim