My build thread - beautiful Arbor pintail + space cell(10s)

[cmatson]

first post for me- I am an early space cell adopter, and have been told to start a build thread because (to my knowledge) there aren't any other space cell build thread (yet)

This is the 3rd electric skateboard I've built, so I had a pretty good idea of what I wanted to do going into this project...
goals:
wood case for electronics stained to either match, or go well with my Arbor deck
use the enertion space cell because it is simply badass
controlled by a nunchuk
be at least "splash proof"
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it took me a good 2 hours to get the esc to work... no matter what, the longer receiver wire wouldn't seem to work with the receiver - tried it with the nunchuk receiver; no luck again. then, I finally just went on a desperate guess and used the shorter wire. Then it worked perfectly... I was told the longer wire for the receiver, and the shorter for the programming card, but maybe not? anyone with insight on this, please do tell... Thanks!

another thing with the esc: the brakes don't seem to kick in until my trigger is almost all the way forward... and when they do kick in, they are really intense. I am going to buy a programming card, and I am assuming I will be able to fiddle with that to help the brakes situation. does anyone have experience with this torqueboards esc and messing with the brakes?
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another question for you guys, this one with the wii receiver:
I tested it with a 6s castle mamba monster 2 that is in my other board, and it worked flawlessly. this was hooked up through the same castle bec I am using in this build, and the positive from the esc's receiver lead was removed. Then, I moved everything over the the 10s build. this was after successfully riding around with a 2.4ghz setup and some ghetto mounting. I simply switched out the 2.4ghz receiver for the wii receiver, but now it does not want to work properly. when I sync up the nunchuk, the esc doesn't seem to care: after being synced for maybe 10 seconds, if I start moving the throttle to reverse repeatedly, the motor will randomly start up, and then it will work from that point on with one exception... in the neutral position, the motor still spins forward, but at its slowest setting. if I hold down reverse/brake by pulling back the throttle, it will stop. I can still push the throttle forwards, use the cruise control, and everything else just fine after the initial esc response issue, but the slow spin in neutral can't seem to disappear...thanks to anyone who has some suggestions to possibly fix this! its not a huge problem, but an annoying one none the less.

plans for the case- yes, I know its in inches, not mm, but #merica


you can kinda get the general idea at this point... seriously, like this probably won't be my final case design: I just wanted to get some cuts and play around with the layout. I am gonna take my time with this project... updates to come, hope you guys enjoy my first post!

 

[Nobuo]

Plenty of wood work! and beautiful finish

What about specs? did you do the battery pack?

 

[cmatson]

Plenty of wood work! and beautiful finish

What about specs? did you do the battery pack?

battery pack is the enertion space cell - you can read up on it at http://www.enertionboards.com
esc is a torqueboards 120amp sesnored esc sold by diyelectricskateboards, wii receiver was bought off ebay, castle BEC, enertion 190kv motor at 2,400watts

 

[torqueboards]

Cayden, it shouldn't have taken that long to get that ESC up and working.. Sorry for the confusion and trouble. I should be having a lot more tutorials coming soon.

Also with the braking, you most definitely should have the ESC Programming Card to program the ESC before you actually use the ESC. I don't think the ESC has brakes set much if at all by default.

The issues you have would be better to check after you actually program the ESC then you can figure out what issues actually exist versus troubleshooting issues which may be gone completely after actually programming.

Welcome to ES

I'm sure, everyone will be highly interested in your setups.

 

[onloop]

Looks good so far!....

I can't wait to see your enclosure come together. Wood is such a great material to work with, it's lightweight, strong, cheap and can be easily shaped...

I think using wood for the enclosure will compliment the deck, its really got that old-school cursing the beach feel about it...

it brings images like this to mind>

 

[sl33py]

battery pack is the enertion space cell - you can read up on it at http://www.enertionboards.com
esc is a torqueboards 120amp sesnored esc sold by diyelectricskateboards, wii receiver was bought off ebay, castle BEC, enertion 190kv motor at 2,400watts

Great looking build cmatson! I'm still in the "ghetto" mounting stage w/ mine and velcro and painters tape mounting works - but looks like crap...

That's the enertion motor?
it looks nothing like the one online, not just color but the shape is totally different:

Is it an 8mm axle? it looks like a 10mm axle from your pic. Did it come with the keyway on the axle already?

Do you have a midline picture of the truck/motor setup? Curious how much room for dual rear motor. Did you insert any spacers on the axle to move the wheel out?

Nice build so far! Have you thought about cutting your wood frame in half to reduce weight and bulk? thinner walls would save weight but still give you good protection.

One other suggestion - i might rotate your motor's wires to point down. Taking a rock or good "hit" to the motor will ding/mark, but damaging your wires will equal no more locomotion... until it's repaired/replaced if able to be fixed.

Definitely will follow - keep it coming!

 

[CSN]

I'm curious about the enertion motor also.

Does it have keyway? Is the shaft long enough to run wider pulley and belt? > 9 mm?

Why is the motor only accept 10s? What happens if with 12s?

 

[torqueboards]

12s should be enertion motors.

I should have 15mm belts and pulleys soon as well as a 5065 170kv sensored motors. You can't run the 15mm belts on 180mm trucks. You can use sensored motors with 12s as well. Use 195mm trucks for dual rear 15mm.

 

[sl33py]

Torque - are you going to have a 63mm (short length like 6354) motor option anytime soon? <200kv preferably.

onloop - hopefully he sees this and can let us know about the enertion motor above. 8mm shaft? keyway pre-installed? 12s capable? It's tempting to get a pair if so!!

I'm a fan of the black motor setup above with the more open air (cooling) motor "fins" or whatever you call them. The red motor in the build looks nice, but not quite as nice as the enertion one pictured.

 

[torqueboards]

Not at the moment. I won't have a 63mm option.

Perhaps, still debating. I personally don't think it's needed with a dual motor. Granted it's most definitely more durable, able to take more heat. But don't think I would ever need it and I ride uphill pretty much half of my entire rides. For a high performance board though I would opt for 6374 motors and dual diagonal.

 

[cmatson]

Cayden, it shouldn't have taken that long to get that ESC up and working.. Sorry for the confusion and trouble. I should be having a lot more tutorials coming soon.

Also with the braking, you most definitely should have the ESC Programming Card to program the ESC before you actually use the ESC. I don't think the ESC has brakes set much if at all by default.

The issues you have would be better to check after you actually program the ESC then you can figure out what issues actually exist versus troubleshooting issues which may be gone completely after actually programming.

Welcome to ES

I'm sure, everyone will be highly interested in your setups.

Ya, I figured I should have started with the programming card, but no harm in ordering one now! looking forward to your tutorials!

 

[cmatson]

battery pack is the enertion space cell - you can read up on it at http://www.enertionboards.com
esc is a torqueboards 120amp sesnored esc sold by diyelectricskateboards, wii receiver was bought off ebay, castle BEC, enertion 190kv motor at 2,400watts

Great looking build cmatson! I'm still in the "ghetto" mounting stage w/ mine and velcro and painters tape mounting works - but looks like crap...

That's the enertion motor?
it looks nothing like the one online, not just color but the shape is totally different:

Is it an 8mm axle? it looks like a 10mm axle from your pic. Did it come with the keyway on the axle already?

Do you have a midline picture of the truck/motor setup? Curious how much room for dual rear motor. Did you insert any spacers on the axle to move the wheel out?

Nice build so far! Have you thought about cutting your wood frame in half to reduce weight and bulk? thinner walls would save weight but still give you good protection.

One other suggestion - i might rotate your motor's wires to point down. Taking a rock or good "hit" to the motor will ding/mark, but damaging your wires will equal no more locomotion... until it's repaired/replaced if able to be fixed.

Definitely will follow - keep it coming!

yes, that is the enertion motor: the picture is of the previous version, which was a 50mm 245kv motor- I will post a picture of the older motor just so you can see I am not making anything up, as I actually have one on my current setup. The 63mm motor I am using for this build is the latest version, but it has only been out a short while: my guess is that the pic hasn't been updated. It is a 8mm shaft though, and it has a keyway. The wheels have no spacers, and there is definitely room for a dual motor setup: I will post some pictures of it tonight. as for the wires, I know they aren't in an ideal location, but if I rotate the motor 90 degrees, they will literally be squished against the board, and will by rubbed by the spinning can.... The wood was just some stuff I cut really quickly to see if I liked the demensions I planned up, or if I wanted to change it based on its actual appearance: the final product will be have less bulk. for me its not a weight issue, its just strength I want.

 

[cmatson]

Torque - are you going to have a 63mm (short length like 6354) motor option anytime soon? <200kv preferably.

onloop - hopefully he sees this and can let us know about the enertion motor above. 8mm shaft? keyway pre-installed? 12s capable? It's tempting to get a pair if so!!

I'm a fan of the black motor setup above with the more open air (cooling) motor "fins" or whatever you call them. The red motor in the build looks nice, but not quite as nice as the enertion one pictured.

I figured I'd just answer your questions that I know the answers to, and leave the rest for enertion(onloop). 8mm shaft- yes keyway pre installed- yes The pic above is of enertions old motor, that was a 245kv 50mm. the new ones are 63mm, and short enough for dual configs. I believe they are 6354, but onloop will correct me If I am wrong. Feeling both the old enertion motor, and the new red one, I have to say the new one looks much better, and sure as heck preforms better! Only thing I don't know is the 12s...

 

[cmatson]

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and now, for my day two work:
enertion space cell +electronics have been more permanently ghetto mounted. I really like this metal stuff that I had laying around as a mounting option- thin, relatively easy to bend, yet strong. I might let the space cell be mounted with this stuff in the final board, but I will definitely get some shorter screws, and more links going across before that happens. There is also some anti slip pads and foam to counter the boards natural concave under the space cell. The electronics all have been mounted with double sided adhesive thats pretty strong to keep them from wiggling around, and then they have that metal stuff holding them in from the top as a more long term mounting piece. gorilla tape is keeping the wires down, and everything seems to be going well! can't wait for that programming card!

 

[sl33py]

that strapping is great! I might put some foam or cushion under it - with flexing and vibrations you don't want metal wearing through the cover to underlying electronics!

Thanks for the extra pictures and clarifying the black motor. With keyway already - i might be getting a pair of his motors soon! I have 2 of Torque's 5065's already (running a single) so need to test dual before buying the larger 63mm motors.

Mid-line shots really look great for dual motor setup! Re-read to see you aren't using any spacers. Cool - I've seen some 5mm spacers from ADS and thought about stacked speedrings for a temp way to fit if too tight.

Again - the motor wires would be worth looking at rotating to point down (might point down and back towards truck) to help protect them. You might only roll on super smooth asphalt/bike paths and it's not an issue, but i'm paranoid about damaging my wires.

Great board btw - love the arbor deck and their wood is gorgeous! especially love their Koa wood decks. Great platform to DIY an e-board!

 

[cmatson]

that strapping is great! I might put some foam or cushion under it - with flexing and vibrations you don't want metal wearing through the cover to underlying electronics!

Thanks for the extra pictures and clarifying the black motor. With keyway already - i might be getting a pair of his motors soon! I have 2 of Torque's 5065's already (running a single) so need to test dual before buying the larger 63mm motors.

Mid-line shots really look great for dual motor setup! Re-read to see you aren't using any spacers. Cool - I've seen some 5mm spacers from ADS and thought about stacked speedrings for a temp way to fit if too tight.

Again - the motor wires would be worth looking at rotating to point down (might point down and back towards truck) to help protect them. You might only roll on super smooth asphalt/bike paths and it's not an issue, but i'm paranoid about damaging my wires.

Great board btw - love the arbor deck and their wood is gorgeous! especially love their Koa wood decks. Great platform to DIY an e-board!

ya, I have a foam lining that is anti slip under the battery- the board has a concave, so without the foam, the battery just balanced on the bottom hump. I know about the motor wires, but I am pretty careful about riding on crappy roads, and I rarely do it. They are at about the same position as my other boards, and I have been riding those for almost 1.5 years daily with no problems. also, all the roads in my neighborhood and surrounding area were re-done a couple years ago, so they are in really good shape; staying on these roads is like 95% of my journeys, as there is a shopping center and couple other places all within this "good road" area...lol

 

[onloop]

Caden pretty much answered the questions correctly already, but as people have been asking me about this a lot lately, and because i haven't updated my pics online yet, i thought id take some photos & write a new article on my blog.

Check out the article here: Best way to install a motor pulley for electric skateboards

These motors will work with 12S.