I had some arguments about a nuclear controller I am using on another discussion forum specific to that controller. I had issues with how it was controlling the bike. I was right in my arguments but almost everybody seemed to not like what I was saying. I just can not understand why they are not seeing what I'm seeing here. Only one other person noticed the same exact issue.
This makes me want to ask you guys how does most controllers control the motor.
The nuclear controller has a few ways to control the motor, but i will talk about the way mostly everyone is using it and recommending to use it. They use it in torque mode and how this mode works is it controls the Phase Amps of the bike.
So for example. If you set your controller to 500 max phase amps, your controller will work like this.
press 25% of your throttle your bike will allow up to 125 phase amps.
press 50% of your throttle your bike will allow up to 250 phase amps.
etc. to 100%
The controller also limits your maximum battery amps, which I have set at 100 battery amps. So if the bike reaches 100 battery amps, it will not allow any higher phase amps or battery amps.
This is the issue I am having. It seems that the bike uses maximum phase amps when first starting off, so lets say that on full throttle from a dead stop my bike will peak at 500 phase amps, but probably for only a second or so.
however, if I'm riding at speed, above say 15MPH or higher, my bike will only use maximum about 150 phase amps, even if I full throttle my bike it will only use 150 max phase amps at speed or most of the time.
So what I notice is that when cruising at speed, about 25-30% of my throttle movement will give me full power. This means that there will be no throttle range from 30% - 100% at cruising speed, which means after I move the throttle 30% the throttle will do nothing after that. The reason for this is at 30% of throttle my bike is calling to use 150 phase amps, but if I press my throttle down 50%, it will call for 250 phase amps, but my motor will not be able to use 250 phase amps at these higher speeds. The reason may be because my controller is also limited to 100 battery amps because my BMS would trip and I had to set it to 100 battery amps maximum.
I would like to know from you guys is why have I not noticed this issue on other bikes?
Do other bikes use phase amps in the same way the nuclear controller uses phase amps to control the motor?
Am I right in that a throttle controlling phase amps only will be a problem like I am experiencing?
Thanks, open to all points of view here.
This makes me want to ask you guys how does most controllers control the motor.
The nuclear controller has a few ways to control the motor, but i will talk about the way mostly everyone is using it and recommending to use it. They use it in torque mode and how this mode works is it controls the Phase Amps of the bike.
So for example. If you set your controller to 500 max phase amps, your controller will work like this.
press 25% of your throttle your bike will allow up to 125 phase amps.
press 50% of your throttle your bike will allow up to 250 phase amps.
etc. to 100%
The controller also limits your maximum battery amps, which I have set at 100 battery amps. So if the bike reaches 100 battery amps, it will not allow any higher phase amps or battery amps.
This is the issue I am having. It seems that the bike uses maximum phase amps when first starting off, so lets say that on full throttle from a dead stop my bike will peak at 500 phase amps, but probably for only a second or so.
however, if I'm riding at speed, above say 15MPH or higher, my bike will only use maximum about 150 phase amps, even if I full throttle my bike it will only use 150 max phase amps at speed or most of the time.
So what I notice is that when cruising at speed, about 25-30% of my throttle movement will give me full power. This means that there will be no throttle range from 30% - 100% at cruising speed, which means after I move the throttle 30% the throttle will do nothing after that. The reason for this is at 30% of throttle my bike is calling to use 150 phase amps, but if I press my throttle down 50%, it will call for 250 phase amps, but my motor will not be able to use 250 phase amps at these higher speeds. The reason may be because my controller is also limited to 100 battery amps because my BMS would trip and I had to set it to 100 battery amps maximum.
I would like to know from you guys is why have I not noticed this issue on other bikes?
Do other bikes use phase amps in the same way the nuclear controller uses phase amps to control the motor?
Am I right in that a throttle controlling phase amps only will be a problem like I am experiencing?
Thanks, open to all points of view here.