Neo Jumper new owner

[Mtnm]

I'm a new owner of a Neo Jumper and new to the forum.
I'd enjoy hearing any tips from other owners of a Neo Jumper.

How low should I run the battery down before recharging?
The manual seems to indicate drawing it down to the 20% level might reduce the life of the battery.
I have the 9Ah on my new 26" model. I think the 12Ah battery is something I will want when available for the 26".

I ride primarily on single track and dirt roads. Spokes are reported to be a problem on this bike.
Any advice?

Laws? I'll be in Moab, Ut next week. Do people encounter problems legal problems if riding in the area?
I'm thinking mostly of Monitor, Klondike, and some roads in the Needles area.

Any experience on how well the bike is sealed is appreciated. I've avoided mud holes, but really would like to ride through them. Some brief water crossings might submerge the hub motor; do I need to avoid this?

I did do a search on previous threads with Neo Jumper, and didn't find many.
Thanks for any input.

 

[Aushiker]

If you don't get much help here there is a fairly active community of BH riders over at EBR. Might be worth asking there as well.

Andrew

 

[Mtnm]

Thanks Andrew, see you over there.

Mike

 

[Dark Knight]

Howdy hoo.
I've got one of them there BH Neo Jumpers as well. Spokes have been a bit of a problem for me - but only just (and I do tip the scales in excess of 230 in your language). After almost a year of ownership, suddenly a couple of spokes went *ping* so down the local shop she went. They've replaced the spokes but plan on rebuilding the whole wheel - manually build always stronger than machine built by all acounts. One thing, the spoke nipples are a weird size...they struggled to find a spoke tool to do the work. Oh...and I need to stop eating so many pies, that'll probably save the poor little blighters...
In reference to 'other forums', there's also a pretty extensive discussion on the jumper at an Oz based forum called whirlpool. Search BH Neo Jumper whirlpool or some such nonsense and if you've got a few hours, read the entire thread (if you can't locate let me know and I'll scratch up the URL). Muchas info is covered and there including a fair bit of effort applied to 'delimiting' the motor (get Nitro controller and 48V battery etc.). You see, in Oz, our friendly neighbourhood overloards decided that we'd not follow the yanks for once and get in bed with the europeans and their awe inspiring 250W pedlec laws and 25km speed limit. It's embarassing being passed by my 4 year old cause the motor all of a sudden cuts out at the speed limit... although that could just be becuase I'm slow and incompetent... :lol:
I do love my Neo Jumper though - it has served me proudly for a good couple of thousand kays (short mile for you) and I suspect will keep on going. Is stealthly as, pretty light for a leccy (tipping the scales @ 22kg...but then if I were worried about weight, I should be cutting it from the human engine...) and plug and play. Charge the battery, plug it in and off we gooooo. That damn power and speed limit pees me off though and I'm defintely going to build myself a 'proper' electiric bike with some real grunt. Would like to try a mid drive to...see what it's like. I'll defintely be keeping the Jumper as the old dependable beast that should be able to turn on and go anytime...unlike some home brew bike whch I'm sure I'll screw some wiring or something up and explode in a ball of LiPo pyrotechnics.
Enjoy the new purchase and keep us posted on your trevails.

 

[PRW]

DK, should try it at 48v - transforms the bike. I prefer it (at 48v) to my 750w mid drive

 

[Dark Knight]

So did they finally solve the issues with fitting the 48v battery and related controller then? Info in the whirlpool thread? Great news if they did - thanks for posting! Care to help a brother out and give me the goss...

 

[Mtnm]

Howdy hoo.
I've got one of them there BH Neo Jumpers as well. Spokes have been a bit of a problem for me - but only just (and I do tip the scales in excess of 230 in your language). After almost a year of ownership, suddenly a couple of spokes went *ping* so down the local shop she went. They've replaced the spokes but plan on rebuilding the whole wheel - manually build always stronger than machine built by all acounts. One thing, the spoke nipples are a weird size...they struggled to find a spoke tool to do the work.

In reference to 'other forums', there's also a pretty extensive discussion on the jumper at an Oz based forum called whirlpool.

I do love my Neo Jumper though - it has served me proudly for a good couple of thousand kays (short mile for you) and I suspect will keep on going. Is stealthly as, pretty light for a leccy (tipping the scales @ 22kg...but then if I were worried about weight, I should be cutting it from the human engine...) and plug and play. Charge the battery, plug it in and off we gooooo. That damn power and speed limit pees me off though and I'm defintely going to build myself a 'proper' electiric bike with some real grunt.

Would like to try a mid drive to...see what it's like. I'll defintely be keeping the Jumper as the old dependable beast that should be able to turn on and go anytime...unlike some home brew bike whch I'm sure I'll screw some wiring or something up and explode in a ball of LiPo pyrotechnics.
Enjoy the new purchase and keep us posted on your trevails.

Thank you for the warm welcome.
I greatly appreciate any and all advice. I purchased some spoke wrenches, only to find none will fit the spokes. The 3.5 mm was the largest in the set. Wondering what the correct size is? I think the nearest bike shop to me is about 50 miles (one way), so I normally shop on-line.

I have about 70 miles on the bike now. After 6-10 miles I'm normally down to 2 bars. This is usually on single track or jeep roads. I'm still trying to get an understanding of the range I can expect.

I did find the Whirlpool the most informative of all forums on the Neo Jumper, and was the reason I ended purchasing the bike. A great group of people.

It sounds like the 48 volt battery does give a higher speed, but sacrifices distance. People report getting around 1/2 the distance. (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2192653&p=28) I'm much more interested in distance than speed. I plan using the bike mostly in off-road and single track. It was great fun on the trails around Moab, Utah.

For some of the more technical sections of trail the motor would cut-in much earlier than I wanted. I also had trouble with the motor wanting to keep running as I hit some of the deep sand traps which found me needing to put down both feet. I did try to hit the brake to shut off the motor, but the response was slow. For my purposes I wish the "eco" setting delivered less power.

I do plan to add a 400 watt inverter to my vehicle so I can charge the battery while camping. I did not find anyone else posting on this, so additional advice is welcome. (Power=Voltage * Current, so 120 volts * 2.4 amps = 288 watts for the charger, if the ratings on the charger label are accurate).

This morning I had a great deal of brake squeal on the front disc brake. There is no apparent adjustment mechanism on the brakes. One of the internet searches suggesting cleaning the rotor (I used a clean cotton rag and methyl alcohol). That seems to help. But if there is an adjustment I'd like to know about it.

Mike
Colorado, USA

 

[Digby1973]

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum as well as to the ebike world. Yesterday I went to test drive some bikes. I went with the intention of purchasing the Prodeco Outlaw but instead fell in love with the Neo Xtrem. I will be picking it up in the next few days. I hope I made the right decision to go with the Neo (I think I did). Anyway, I will let you know how I like it in a few days. Can't wait!

 

[PRW]

So did they finally solve the issues with fitting the 48v battery and related controller then? Info in the whirlpool thread? Great news if they did - thanks for posting! Care to help a brother out and give me the goss...

yes, all solved, and a number of people running on more than 36v - some with booster packs, some (me included) with the 48v battery from the Nitro. Have a read on this thread from page 18 onwards http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2192653&p=18

If you want to try the 48v Xtrem, send me a pm

 

[Mtnm]

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum as well as to the ebike world. Yesterday I went to test drive some bikes. I went with the intention of purchasing the Prodeco Outlaw but instead fell in love with the Neo Xtrem. I will be picking it up in the next few days. I hope I made the right decision to go with the Neo (I think I did). Anyway, I will let you know how I like it in a few days. Can't wait!

You are going to have fun!
Most do recommend a change in the saddle and pedals.
Make sure the dealer shows you battery removal, and practice it a few times.


Mike
Colorado, USA

 

[Dark Knight]

Thank you for the warm welcome.
I greatly appreciate any and all advice. I purchased some spoke wrenches, only to find none will fit the spokes. The 3.5 mm was the largest in the set. Wondering what the correct size is? I think the nearest bike shop to me is about 50 miles (one way), so I normally shop on-line.

Hi Mike
Realised I didn't respond to this - my apologies. I didn't manage to get a direct answer out of the bike shop as to what size spoke wrench they used (the tool man who actually serviced my bike wasn't available) but they'll be rebuilding my wheel completely soon so I'll follow up again then and let you know what size tool to grab....assuming you haven't go something already.
Hope you're still enjoying the bike - I imagine the weather's getting more bike friendly for you guys in the Northern Hemsiphere now...?
Ciao

 

[d8veh]

You need one of thosr Chinese spokr wremches that you get from Ebay. They're in the shape of a ring with notches marked 14g, 13g, 12g, etc. I think you'll find that they're 13g.