New freeride project - LMX P1

[bzhwindtalker]

The footpegs position is not very good on this bike indeed. I am 1m75 and i'ts OK for me but when I let taller guys ride it it looks strange! I think I got used to it.
I used my lapierre as reference for the frame, so I have about the same geometry, with footpegs at the BB position. I will change that on the LMXP2 8)
The plans are GNG big block, 20S10Ah, 15fet, single speed #219, cromo frame and alu swingarm, wide 24" rear wheel and drop 10kg over the P1. Oh and there will be two versions, one moto like with the big block and one with the small block and pedals ! ETA: Q3 2014

dirkdiggler,
I use a DD motor as a outruner on the P1 so the shell is spinning, I use the 6 M5 ISO dics mount for the motor sprocket.

It was raining this weekend so I rode in the parking lot :
[youtube]FFWbv1q3bFE[/youtube]

 

[circuit]

Probably because seat is so low?

 

[bzhwindtalker]

Yep, but at the same time the low seat makes it good for trials! The back of the seat should go up like on a trial bike I think.

 

[pchen92]

Nice vids buddy !
How much power do you have with this setup ? 5kW ? Motor is a 9C ?

8)

 

[benmxrider]

Great again, I send you a PM to see you in lyon

 

[bzhwindtalker]

Some news and pictures, we started doing Urbex with friends and we usually bring the moto, we took some great pictures! However this weekend I had a lot of failures on the bike, ending with a broken rear hub! My fastening method had it weakened but I thougth it would hold.
Picturz :

Now I need to find a new rear pit bike hub that will allow me a cleaner install of the drivetrain...
Oh and I changed the footpegs position, puting them lower and further back, wich helps a lot with the feel of the bike! I still need to work on the control side, anybody knows where to buy a maguara 5K in europe?

 

[dan974]

i think its the best deal even if it s not in eu....
http://holmeshobbies.com/Magura-Twistgrip-5k-throttle.html

 

[bzhwindtalker]

Does it come with the matching grip? Last tome I checked there, postage was very high. Well that's not a cheap hobby haha! I just ordered a new rear shock with compression and recoil adjustment which I hope will help the flat landings. I'm tempted to switch my rear wheel to a complete 20" oset rear setup or change to 26" front and a wide 24" rear, but I need to find a wide dual disc hub.

 

[E-Norco]

5k Throttle
http://www.motorradparts24.de/fahrg...asgriff-komplett-modell-317-magura/a-5137571/

 

[E-Norco]

Matching Grip:
http://www.motorradparts24.de/fahrg...mi-zubehoer/griffset-magura-720019/a-5137625/

 

[--freeride--]

Oh and I changed the footpegs position, puting them lower and further back, wich helps a lot with the feel of the bike! I still need to work on the control side, anybody knows where to buy a maguara 5K in europe?

That sounds good. the geometrie looked short and the tail to long before.

Are you using hall sensors to control the motor? That might help a lot. A guy in the german forum is bilding his own sinus-controller(more silent than square comutation). He uses them with direktdrive Hubmotor. He seems very gifted and is using analog halls for perfekt rotorposition and start. have a look at the smooth start in the video.

The second video is his Controller with a 9c Hub:
http://www.pedelecforum.de/forum/sh...-quot-ist-der-neue-S06S-mit-Torque-Simulation

Maybe you ask him to build you a Controller or get an old one from him. He also writes the code for his controllers, so he can do everything you like

 

[dan974]

I'm tempted to switch my rear wheel to a complete 20" oset rear setup or change to 26" front and a wide 24" rear, but I need to find a wide dual disc hub.

http://www.electricmotorsport.com/store/ems_ev_parts_throttles_magura_twist-grip.php
in EU
http://www.motorradparts24.de/fahrgestell2/lenkung/lenkerarmaturen/gasgriff-komplett-modell-317-magura/a-5137571/

would you use an MX ord DH tyre ? the halo contra 24/26 x 3 (in fact 2.7) would wear pretty fast @your power level...you could find some trial tyres max 2.5 in 20 " but they wear pretty fast too ...don't you have an MX on the rear ? I think you should go 18" rear (85cm3 front) and a 24" with halo contra in front...
you'l need to swithc to a pit bike fork if you wanna move to dual disc hub...or make something to mount it on your fork ...
cromotor make a dual one with inverted fork

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=410814075689554&set=pb.166107346826896.-2207520000.1384362788.&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F1263789_410814075689554_1042250198_o.jpg&smallsrc=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F1235286_410814075689554_1042250198_n.jpg&size=2048%2C1560
http://issuu.com/zelenavozila/docs/zelenavozila 60$ the hub, 450 the DNM inverted fork
http://www.zelenavozila.com/

 

[2moto]

Is this you, bzhwindtalker?

http://youtu.be/REeeYtp-8qE

 

[r3volved]

Where did you get your seat? What model?

Did you build the frame to mount the moto seat, or did you build/modify the seat to fit the frame?

This bike is one of my favorites. Sorry to hear about the recent failures.

 

[efMX Trials Electric Freeride]

Is this you, bzhwindtalker?
http://youtu.be/REeeYtp-8qE

Chris Northover rides his Oset electric trials bike in, under and on the old Russian consulate on the infamous Billionaires Row. This video is packed with extreme technical trickery on this amazing electric powered motorbike

http://www.superbike.co.uk/2013/11/07/crashing-the-russian-embassy-oset-bike-test/

 

[dan974]

i don t know if it is the same threads, could be helpfull if you can mount it instead of the cassette
http://tncscooters.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=34_113

 

[Redstarr]

Also my favorite! Its a cool project!

Christers bike also rocks!

 

[bzhwindtalker]

i don t know if it is the same threads, could be helpfull if you can mount it instead of the cassette
http://tncscooters.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=34_113

Yes this and a normal 12mm axle dh rear hub could work! but most hubs are cassette nowdays...
I currentely use a 17" motocross front wheel and tyre as my rear wheel and a 24" with 2.7 tire front. I ordered a new cnc dirt bike hub while I figure a nice wheelset for my next project...

Thanks guys for the links to the magura throtlles I'm a bit broke ATM but i'ts up next on the list !
Snow is coming here we have a video project with a friend involving LMX-towed urban freestyle skiing

Other news, I am tring to start importing trike motors similar to what we know as the gng motor but with a lot more copper will keep you guys updated

 

[2moto]

Have you looked at BMX trials wheels? They are 19", even though they are called 20", and allow you to fit fat off-road tyres, and the rims tend to be stronger than bicycle ones.

Something like this: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/...+Trials+Tyre&gclid=CL_Gpc2A9LoCFU_ItAodARMAkw

 

[bzhwindtalker]

Something like that could be neat, I just need to check the diameter with a tire, My guess is that it is quite a bit smaller than my 17" setup
http://www.trialprod.com/fr/396-roue-ar-echo-tr-19-disque.html
Not so expensive either!

 

[2moto]

You can also get them in 26" trials size.

 

[dan974]

Snow is coming here we have a video project with a friend involving LMX-towed urban freestyle skiing

hehe, I did some longskateboarding towed on th open High way last WE, people and I were stoked :lol:

 

[bzhwindtalker]

I finnaly got the bike back working! The new rear wheel setup and the new shock really makes the bike "1.1"
We will be getting some nice pictures soon, and I'll have a new video camera to test out this weekend...

 

[christerljung]

Looks nice! It has the touch of mx. Freestyle-mx
Really wish there was an easy 2hour travel from Falun to Lyon... (Lipo luggage allowed)

 

[bzhwindtalker]

Looks nice! It has the touch of mx. Freestyle-mx
Really wish there was an easy 2hour travel from Falun to Lyon... (Lipo luggage allowed)

Haha for sure!
We took some nice pics the other day but since that I dislocated my shoulder snow-boarding last sunday... no more riding for 3 weeks and for now I can't even lift my arm!