Smart Battery Data Specification

rf said:
We also don't know how old they will get before that change starts to happen.
:arrow: Simple answer:

The "change" starts on day one.

Even with three brand spanking new Headway cells picked at random by DoctorBass we see enough difference to make the Smart Battery approach just slightly better than LVC.

So the answer is it's always better and just improves with time... (based on actual data measurements)
 
safe said:
rf said:
We also don't know how old they will get before that change starts to happen.
:arrow: Simple answer:

The "change" starts on day one.


Sorry, I'm not used to writing like a lawyer. Make that significant change.

safe said:
Even with three brand spanking new Headway cells picked at random by DoctorBass we see enough difference to make the Smart Battery approach just slightly better than LVC.
`Just slightly better' certainly seems to open the door to a myriad of other responses to the problem. Including starting with a slightly larger battery. Which, besides addressing the base problem provides additional range at the outset.

safe said:
So the answer is it's always better and just improves with time... (based on actual data measurements)
Perhaps that word better needs a lawyer to attend to it also.

As you've shown data can be made to `prove' just about anything. Especially when you don't have very much of it.

Richard
 
rf said:
As you've shown data can be made to `prove' just about anything. Especially when you don't have very much of it.
Well... if I predict something with theory and then the data agrees with the theory then that's normally considered confirmation of the theory.

:arrow: Do you want to check my math at all?

More data would be better. It might be nice to take an older pack and dismantle it and then run cell by cell analysis of them all. Then we might see how far things get unbalanced.

My "theory" is that things get worse with time... however... that's just a "theory" and maybe data could be posted here that would prove the "theory" wrong.


DoctorBass !

Do you have any old packs that are starting to show poor results that could be disassembled and tested?

That kind of data could settle this once and for all. :p
 
safe said:
rf said:
As you've shown data can be made to `prove' just about anything. Especially when you don't have very much of it.
Well... if I predict something with theory and then the data agrees with the theory then that's normally considered confirmation of the theory.

:arrow: Do you want to check my math at all?

More data would be better. It might be nice to take an older pack and dismantle it and then run cell by cell analysis of them all. Then we might see how far things get unbalanced.

My "theory" is that things get worse with time... however... that's just a "theory" and maybe data could be posted here that would prove the "theory" wrong.


DoctorBass !

Do you have any old packs that are starting to show poor results that could be disassembled and tested?

That kind of data could settle this once and for all. :p
The current data merely supports the theory. Only a large sample of actual side by side testing of systems can provide confirmation or proof. (Theoretical v. Practical)

:roll:
 
TylerDurden said:
Only a large sample of actual side by side testing of systems can provide confirmation or proof. (Theoretical v. Practical)
Well naturally... give me a million dollar budget and a team of testers and we could have all the results we wanted. As it stands the data is hard to come by so we have to use "Wild West" type intuition to survive.

It makes sense... if new cells are roughly 2.5% apart then as time goes on you would expect for that to drift a little more to more like 5% to 10%. We're only talking about one cell slipping off the scale a bit... and that's the central message... that:

:arrow: "A pack is only as strong as it's weakest cell"

...when you use the LVC approach. It's like a socialist nightmare culture where we are catering to the weakest and not really using the benefits of a free society of cells achieving their full potential.

So I'm not Satan... I'm a Humanist... I'm concerned about the full potential of the cell... :lol: (that's a little scene from the movie "The Devil's Advocate")
 
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