Sources for positive yet truthful news?

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Do you know of any positive news sources out there that aren't woo-woo, hippy dippy stuff?
Or even just neutral.. no spin.. just the facts?

I am so tired of news sources that get clicks and ad impressions from intentionally scaring, polarizing, or manipulating people.
 
neptronix said:
Do you know of any positive news sources out there that aren't woo-woo, hippy dippy stuff?
Or even just neutral.. no spin.. just the facts?

I am so tired of news sources that get clicks and ad impressions from intentionally scaring, polarizing, or manipulating people.

Mainstream American news, is out of control and untrustworthy. Its also pathetic that so many guests/experts that come on the media, have a new book to sell /promote . Our media has mutated into a mass advertising venue , and I find it pathetic . It wasnt like this a few decades ago . I think deregulation laws under Reagan, really caused a lot of bad things to happen in media, radio, film production. I remember reading articles back then, discussing the negatives .

The big problem is, humans seem to enjoy the lopsided bias, lies and drama queen media venues much more then , if they were offered factual and non drama media outlets.
 
neptronix said:
Do you know of any positive news sources out there that aren't woo-woo, hippy dippy stuff?
Or even just neutral.. no spin.. just the facts?

I am so tired of news sources that get clicks and ad impressions from intentionally scaring, polarizing, or manipulating people.

I've read The Guardian, The Independent, and BBC for decades now, for the reasons you say. They may have an editorial bias when it comes to British domestic affairs, but on that count I don't particularly care. (None of the above sources have good coverage of Florida Man, though.)
 
Honestly, most of the foreign press is pretty decent as far as being factual is concerned. Maybe not in terms of domestic matters but as far as international stuff, most of the world has a much lower tolerance for bullspit than we in north america do.

I read/listen to NHK (Japan), Voice Of Russia/Sputnik, Spanish National Radio, Deutsche Welle, Radio France, Radio Havana (Cuba), CRI (China) and the BBC. Probably a few others I've missed.

You have to consider the source, and use as many sources as you are able to. My job allows me to be listening to some kind of voice broadcast for most of the day, so I guess I'm lucky there.

Don't expect the full truth from any one place, you will be disappointed.
 
If i'm going to read anything about US news, i read Reuters because they seem to stick to reporting and leave opinion out.

This is also kind of interesting. https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/
 
neptronix said:
If i'm going to read anything about US news, i read Reuters because they seem to stick to reporting and leave opinion out.

I would tend to agree with this, Reuters might be the closest thing left to a traditional national news gathering organization operating in the US. I find the AP feeds to be pretty concise and to the point as well.
 
neptronix said:
Do you know of any positive news sources out there that aren't woo-woo, hippy dippy stuff? Or even just neutral.. no spin.. just the facts
I second the suggestion of foreign sources - the Economist is pretty good.

(This is not because foreign sources do not have a bias. It is because the bias of foreign sources does not align with the axes here - liberal/conservative, denier/alarmist, democrat/republican etc - and thus the biases largely don't matter.)

Here in the US, NPR is pretty good, as is Reuters.
 
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Mainstream media foreign and domestic is garbage.
 
So you don't even trust those damn cats, eh?

You guys are getting carried away over what's positive and what's 'Truthful.' Don't forget Dave Cobert's "Truthiness." Always the temptation to think the conformation bias is true.

'The Economist' ranks with CNN as extreme left leaning, spin doctoring, etc. Me with an Economics Degree saying that. But amazing what someone might call unbiased.

http://numerocinqmagazine.com/
 
Well now, to be truthful news they would have to be willing to tell the truth, wouldn't they? They'd have to report it wasn't the white religious kids in MAGA hats that were shouting racism. They'd have to report it was black men. They'd have to report there was no defiant standoff between the white teenagers and some Indians. They'd have to tell the truth when it just didn't fit their agenda. But the story was written by them long before any incident occurred, they were unwilling to rewrite it to reflect a more positive truth.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/us/maga-hat-teens-native-american-second-video/index.html
 
Smoke said:
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Mainstream media foreign and domestic is garbage.

Quite sad. I played around with foreign news sources and eventually discovered their own biases.
Except they were nowhere near as bad as CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and all the names someone in the USA would be familiar with.

I think our nasty news environment leads to a lot of misunderstandings and polarization in society. Yet people keep coming back for more garbage. It's apparently what they want. Vicious cycle..
 
neptronix said:
Quite sad. I played around with foreign news sources and eventually discovered their own biases.
Except they were nowhere near as bad as CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and all the names someone in the USA would be familiar with.
I'd argue that, to a native reader, they'd be just as bad. But since many of their biases are very different from ours, the "standard" biases (i.e. democrat vs republican, climate denial vs climate alarm) aren't present - and so we perceive it as being less biased.
I think our nasty news environment leads to a lot of misunderstandings and polarization in society. Yet people keep coming back for more garbage. It's apparently what they want. Vicious cycle.
There is a strong desire for confirmation of one's beliefs, even if they are absurd. And if the "regular" media doesn't supply that confirmation, people will either find a new source that does, or create one. (For example - the Qanon phenomenon.)
 
A few years ago in a French election, there was a conservative opposition candidate who was making a lot of noise until suddenly nothing (leading up to the vote).

That was the foreign press showing their bias.

It's the same bias, just different players.

They certainly have an interest in American politics, they can't have us looking too good because our freedoms aren't compatible with their desire for control.
 
Every week I consult the following sites:

  • https://emergencemagazine.org
  • https://inhabitat.com
  • https://cosmosmagazine.com
  • https://www.axios.com
  • https://money.visualcapitalist.com
  • https://www.quantamagazine.org

I'm not wanting for positive yet truthful news, but always willing to try something new.

M
 
A big part of it is figuring out where the money is coming from.

If it's corporate news media, they work for their advertisers. They want certain demographics of people to feel good about consuming their media, so they can market those viewers time and attention to advertisers wanting to sell products and services to them. Their first responsibility will be to their share/stake holders, and in turn their advertisers. Don't expect neutrality when it comes to matters that affect the corporate class.

You won't find much talk of raising taxes on wealthy people, regulating corporate greed, or the like here. The agenda of the corporate entity as a whole is what matters. Just like any other for profit business. The truth is only important as far as lying or otherwise misreporting will cost them money.

If it's public/state broadcasting, they work for the government that provides their funding. That government is more or (sometimes alot) less representative of the people, and depending on their charter may or may not be directly controlled by the government itself.

Of course regardless of their charter responsibilities they remain conscious that their life (funding) depends on maintaining at least some favor with the government in power, as well as maintaining favor with the people they serve, as public opinion indirectly affects their funding as well. More so when the government in question is democratically elected.

The truth isn't necessarily super important to them either, especially when it comes to domestic matters, or matters that shed their source of funding in a negative light, but their motivations to be untruthful are generally much weaker.

Like tens of thousands of dollars a year to lie on TV vs millions of dollars a year to lie on TV.

Plus, I'd go out on a limb and say that demographically on average a CNN or FOX viewer is way easier to bullshit than an NPR or CBC viewer.
 
I'm skeptical of state funded media outlets. Have caught NPR in a few lies when i used to listen to them a lot. They also have a very major 'progressive' bent and i am no fan of political ideology-flavored news.

I do listen to a couple NPR offshoot podcasts by gimlet media, on the topic of economics. There's a bit of a leftist bent, but it's not nearly as strong.

PBS is a bit better here in the states, but they usually get around to telling people the truth about things decades later after all the perpetrators have left their positions.
 
NPR and PBS aren't so much about being government funded as the sort of people in the drivers seat. I keep thinking with the onetime right wing dominated media becoming the left wing dominated media, the nonprofit employees should have gotten the better jobs and the right should have been the unrepresented group that took over the obscurity channels. Hasn't happened.
 
It's only a source if you believe in the guy. I certainly prefer him to Alex Jones, but it's still about POV.

Gotta love the one comment:

Philip Thon said:
Just think, these are the same people that were questioning Judge Kavanaugh about his drinking back in his college days.
 
I am watching PBS allot and even Democracy Now from time to time , D.N. is the worst of all of them, they are always either outright lying or have someone on who has a opinion which is completely different from the real Facts ( in other words a lie ) , or they omit the truth .

It was very evident with the latest mainstream/liberal/big news companies like CNN/MSMBC/NBC/ABC/PBS/D.N. did not show what really happened with the Students being harassed by the Black Militants and so called Indian Elder , incident in Washington D.C just a short while ago .

You have to go to youtube to see the full video footage to see what really happened . The , Only , News organization that showed the full video footage which shows what really happened was ... Fox News.

( no wonder that the left/progressives and their ilk , Hates Fox News !

Fox news are often the only ones who shows the Truth !
It is easy to see how half of the American Public is so , well I try to be polite, how half of the Americans are Brainwashed Sheep ( also called Sheepeople , the Liberals/Progressives/Socialist's ) and they do not even know that they are Brainwashed .


neptronix said:
I'm skeptical of state funded media outlets. Have caught NPR in a few lies when i used to listen to them a lot.

PBS is a bit better here in the states, but they usually get around to telling people the truth about things decades later after all the perpetrators have left their positions.
 
Both sides lie in their own ways. The liberal side will gloss over things and paint them one way using illusions of intellectual superiority. The conservative side will go for the angle that they're telling you the 'hard truth nobody wants to say'.

Sometimes you'll get the full story from either side, but you'll usually get a cherry picked and out of context edition. Fox, MSNBC, CNN, etc all love doing this and it's apparent where they strategically start and stop the footage.

This crap even goes on in interviews. I've known people who were interviewed and the show decided to use ~3% of the footage to paint a narrative that was not how the conversation flowed at all. Watch out for short content!

Ever watch some garbage video on youtube or facebook where someone's doing something crazy? the context of WHY they did the crazy thing is almost always removed.

'here's an immigrant kicking a white girl's ass - see how bad immigrants are?' - leaving out the fact that the white girl started the fight etc..

'here's a neo nazi saying the most horrible things' - but they've left out the not so horrible things.

Editing is a great tool to shape something that didn't happen.
 
Neptronix ,

I hear the " both sides tell you only their own perceptive " from people when I point out the lie's from the left, but more people each day are realizing it is more lopsided , Much more lying coming from the left, and I mean much more lies from the left.

What I can tell you from watching all ( I watch mostly the left/mainstream/PBS etc media 90% of the time and Fox for the other 10% of the time.

What I am finding is that Fox News is much more accurate , and covers much more of the entire story.

Even better than Fox news is a few youtube regulars that report on what is not being reported, There is a Caveat however , you do have to watch several of them to screen out the ones doing click bait , from the ones that are informative and factual.
 
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