liveforphysics said:Stock BMS has 16 x 5mOhm surface mount resistors composing the shunt (0.31mOhm combined). We just doubled up each resistor and it's enough to get everything the OEM pack can deliver to a hotrod controller, and still has functional over voltage, under voltage, and over-temp protection. Soldering work looks awful because it's an aluminum PCB and our iron's weren't high enough power.
fechter said:Even without modding the BMS, I was able to trigger the cell over temp cutoff by pulling 120A for a while. For short bursts, the cells can handle quite a bit but they will overheat quickly if you push things too hard, especially in warm weather.
mr.skywalker said:How are you pulling 120A without modding BMS though? I saw in this thread you could get to that for a few seconds before it would trigger safety cuttoff but you could do it long enough to overheat the cells?
fechter said:mr.skywalker said:How are you pulling 120A without modding BMS though? I saw in this thread you could get to that for a few seconds before it would trigger safety cuttoff but you could do it long enough to overheat the cells?
I don't know. I just tried it and it worked. I'm not sure how much it can take before it will cut off for over current. My guess is the cutoff level isn't very precise and I just got lucky with mine. I could pull 120A for more than a few seconds going up a hill.
smdub said:Got the Nuc24F installed over the weekend. Oh wow, its a blast! Great throttle response!
I had trouble getting the larger 3x3 connector seated all the way. Brand A female vs Brand B male don't mate perfectly. TIGHT fit.
I trip the oem battery BMS at 120A but not at 110A. Those are the only two datapoints I've tried so far. I can see I will want a higher power battery soon. Its a wheelie machine at slower speeds but the battery current limit quickly hits its limit and starts reducing phase amps, limiting fun.
My main question is: The display & control come on WITHOUT the key. As soon as I flip the breaker on, the Nuc24 powers up and will run the bike. I have throttle as its powered off the 5V from the control. W/o the key though, there is no 12V so the brake input signals don't work. Does this happen to anyone else? I need to change some wiring so it will only power on w/ the key if possible (is there a disable line to the control so that it will stay asleep until the aux 12v is present or something.)
smdub said:Got the Nuc24F installed over the weekend. Oh wow, its a blast! Great throttle response!
I had trouble getting the larger 3x3 connector seated all the way. Brand A female vs Brand B male don't mate perfectly. TIGHT fit.
I trip the oem battery BMS at 120A but not at 110A. Those are the only two datapoints I've tried so far. I can see I will want a higher power battery soon. Its a wheelie machine at slower speeds but the battery current limit quickly hits its limit and starts reducing phase amps, limiting fun.
My main question is: The display & control come on WITHOUT the key. As soon as I flip the breaker on, the Nuc24 powers up and will run the bike. I have throttle as its powered off the 5V from the control. W/o the key though, there is no 12V so the brake input signals don't work. Does this happen to anyone else? I need to change some wiring so it will only power on w/ the key if possible (is there a disable line to the control so that it will stay asleep until the aux 12v is present or something.)
smdub said:I trip the oem battery BMS at 120A but not at 110A.
Thanks, this worked great! I didn't know there was a Telegram channel. I don't use that anymore but will try to set it up again.iliketurtles said:This is normal as the Nuc comes. You don't need to change any wiring - you need to change the 'Disable button' setting in 'Controller - Extra Parameters' to Switch (make sure to not set 'Button', otherwise you may not be able to re-enable the controller without some shenanigans). The key is already wired up to activate this, it's just the setting isn't set to allow it to work.
Make sure to keep an eye on the Nucular Telegram channel as this was discussed recently
Mine originally appeared to hold at 120A. But when I did a 15+sec full throttle run up the street it tripped.fechter said:smdub said:I trip the oem battery BMS at 120A but not at 110A.
Thanks for the test. Mine would hold at 120A but did not test higher.
liveforphysics said:Stock BMS has 16 x 5mOhm surface mount resistors composing the shunt (0.31mOhm combined). We just doubled up each resistor and it's enough to get everything the OEM pack can deliver to a hotrod controller, and still has functional over voltage, under voltage, and over-temp protection. Soldering work looks awful because it's an aluminum PCB and our iron's weren't high enough power.